Episode 3
Damn, Binya Binya has really let himself go.
Also, holy shit.
Damn, Binya Binya has really let himself go.
Also, holy shit.
The ending was nuts. That creature looks so terrifyingly cool, and I hope Will is ok.
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Stranger Things S2 |OT| This One Goes to Up to Eleven - 10/27
- Thread starter GK86
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let's be honest now that
nancy and jonathan might be a thing,
billy and steve to be the power couple we need. one bad boy and one pretty much
Watched the entire season in one evening. Loved it all except
episode 7 with the discount suicide squad, seemed so disjointed and pointless in the end. I also didn't like any of the characters.
also I'm REALLY mad Bob died, he was great
also also Steve > Jonathan
Remember that scene where Billy does his hair, but it's kinda... meh?
Clearly foreshadowing.
why am I picturing Steve is in a room together and him doing Billy's hair and they laugh about it you after they get dumped by their gf
I get the idea behind him, what I don't see is how Steve needs him beyond just having him paired off with someone.
Oh yeah, that's just a "I'd like to be to happen" kinda deal.
Steve needs to be happy, in the end, for me to achieve maximum satisfaction.
And if Billy were the one to do that, it'd be amazing.
What a power couple.
Just finished, and while I liked it well enough, it wasn't nearly as good as the first season. The CGI at times too looked straight out of a low budget Syfy original.
Anyway, besides the major stuff, three small things stuck out as odd to me.
Noah Schnapp (Will) owns this show acting wise too.
Anyway, besides the major stuff, three small things stuck out as odd to me.
1. In the first episode when Dr. Owens asks Will about his desert island candy and Will replies with "Reese's Pieces", why does the doctor say "peanut butter and chocolate, hard to beat that"?
2. The use of "mouth-breather" as a derogatory remark was extremely uncommon until the mid 90s. The first known use of it as such was in '85 anyway and the show takes place in '84. Are we to believe that El simply made it up on the spot? I don't know who decided to write that in, but for a show that gets most everything about that era right, this just stuck out like some trendy bullshit that didn't fit at all.
3. The age difference between older El and Roman was not very well thought out. As children, they couldn't be more than 5-6 years apart, yet the older versions clearly have a much larger age gap. The actresses are also ages 23 and 13 and it shows.
2. The use of "mouth-breather" as a derogatory remark was extremely uncommon until the mid 90s. The first known use of it as such was in '85 anyway and the show takes place in '84. Are we to believe that El simply made it up on the spot? I don't know who decided to write that in, but for a show that gets most everything about that era right, this just stuck out like some trendy bullshit that didn't fit at all.
3. The age difference between older El and Roman was not very well thought out. As children, they couldn't be more than 5-6 years apart, yet the older versions clearly have a much larger age gap. The actresses are also ages 23 and 13 and it shows.
Noah Schnapp (Will) owns this show acting wise too.
Oh yeah, this boy was absolutely incredible. Hope he gets many awards for his outstanding performance.
Just finished it. Super disappointing
Negatives
- All of the characters were made unlikable
- The Mind Flayer was far less threatening than the Demogorgon
- Most of the plot lines felt like filler
- Way too much time spent on love triangles
- 008 and her gang were absolutely awful
- The spooky small town feel was completely lost
- Everyone spent too much time apart
Positives
- The acting was fantastic for the most part
- Bob was fun
- Lucas' sister was funny
- Lucas and Max getting together was a nice surprise
- All of the characters were made unlikable
- The Mind Flayer was far less threatening than the Demogorgon
- Most of the plot lines felt like filler
- Way too much time spent on love triangles
- 008 and her gang were absolutely awful
- The spooky small town feel was completely lost
- Everyone spent too much time apart
Positives
- The acting was fantastic for the most part
- Bob was fun
- Lucas' sister was funny
- Lucas and Max getting together was a nice surprise
Its a good serie, don't misunderstand, but I fail to like it better than S1.
Some criticism:
Others things I like less is that the mystery is gone, which makes sense as its the second season. And I think the nods towards 80's stuff is a bit too overdone here. S1 was more subtle with this.
Some criticism:
-Max and Billy, I didn't feel they fit in well. Billy was one dimensional unlike Steve who transitioned to someone who actually ditched his bully lifestyle halfway through. Max was kind of there, never really gets a place.
-Eleven's arc takes a bit too long, she rejoins fairly late.
-The Barb subplot was a welcome addition since she was fridged in S1, but its handled poorly imo. Drawn out and boring in general.
-Eleven's arc takes a bit too long, she rejoins fairly late.
-The Barb subplot was a welcome addition since she was fridged in S1, but its handled poorly imo. Drawn out and boring in general.
Others things I like less is that the mystery is gone, which makes sense as its the second season. And I think the nods towards 80's stuff is a bit too overdone here. S1 was more subtle with this.
(Finale Spoilers)
Dustin's experience at the dance was too fuckin' real for me, man. That struck a core in me that transcended everything else that was happening on the show.
Mostly really enjoyed it, also interested on checking out the Beyond Stranger Things recap show for tidbits next.
I kinda felt that the first episodes had way more "You remember this from the 80s?!" stuff in it, also that KFC spot with slogans and all oh boy.
Full season 2 random thoughts in spoilers
I kinda felt that the first episodes had way more "You remember this from the 80s?!" stuff in it, also that KFC spot with slogans and all oh boy.
Full season 2 random thoughts in spoilers
Was Billy meant to be a racist too (due to shitty dad situation no doubt) or did I just read that one off comment wrong about Lucas?
Steve is pretty fucking great as the older sort of party member, hope next season there's a scene with him getting introduced to some nerdy activity (ala Franco in Freaks & Geeks).
I'm even more sold on Harbour as Hellboy, he's so good on this as a character.
Winona Ryder is forever ruined for me due to her being on the background in the Emmy speech.. well not ruined but I cannot not remember it when she really starts freaking out.
Poor Bob, his demise was signaled so hard, he didn't deserve it but he went out being the hero.
I was surprised Reiser wasn't a sleazeball which was positive I guess.
Show lost some of the dread (a word I wish they used) feeling you got from the Mind Flayer in the first episodes, some real Cthulhu-esque stuff. Will in the field getting possessed and him acting getting burned from the inside was super freaky.
Eleven had some great eps/scenes centered around here but oh boy the one off episode with the "discount Suicide Squad" wasn't it, but I bet they'll play a bigger role (or atleast Kali) next season if Papa really is alive (or am I just dumb dumb and that was a plot to get El be more co-operative with their agenda?)
The final episode dance scene/wrap up was really satisfying in my opinion, Dustys honest smile is the real MVP.
Steve is pretty fucking great as the older sort of party member, hope next season there's a scene with him getting introduced to some nerdy activity (ala Franco in Freaks & Geeks).
I'm even more sold on Harbour as Hellboy, he's so good on this as a character.
Winona Ryder is forever ruined for me due to her being on the background in the Emmy speech.. well not ruined but I cannot not remember it when she really starts freaking out.
Poor Bob, his demise was signaled so hard, he didn't deserve it but he went out being the hero.
I was surprised Reiser wasn't a sleazeball which was positive I guess.
Show lost some of the dread (a word I wish they used) feeling you got from the Mind Flayer in the first episodes, some real Cthulhu-esque stuff. Will in the field getting possessed and him acting getting burned from the inside was super freaky.
Eleven had some great eps/scenes centered around here but oh boy the one off episode with the "discount Suicide Squad" wasn't it, but I bet they'll play a bigger role (or atleast Kali) next season if Papa really is alive (or am I just dumb dumb and that was a plot to get El be more co-operative with their agenda?)
The final episode dance scene/wrap up was really satisfying in my opinion, Dustys honest smile is the real MVP.
Full season spoilers
The season started really slowly, but was very entertaining by the end, which is kind of the opposite of how I felt about season 1. Still, there was too much filler, the 008 arc didn't mesh well with the rest of the season and 11 works better as a character when she's mysterious. Billy's arc was interesting until the last episode, I thought he would play a much more interesting role in defeating/aiding the monster.
Also, rip Bob.
Also, rip Bob.
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I've only seen 3 episodes so far and I'm a little disappointed. By the time episode 3 of season 1 ended last year I was completely sold. I felt like every scene mattered. Here, the pacing feels off, in particular with Hopper's storyline. That crow in the cornfield scene in the first episode was bad. And so far everything feels like a sequel greenlighted only due to the success of season one, and not necessarily because the Duffer Bros. had another story they were dying to tell.
A lot of storylines feel forced for the sake of a sequel, like Nancy caring more about Barb one year after she died than when it first happened in season one.
Also the 80s references aren't very subtle, and there's music like every other scene.
Hope it gets better! It's not bad, it's just not as tightly knit as the first season.
A lot of storylines feel forced for the sake of a sequel, like Nancy caring more about Barb one year after she died than when it first happened in season one.
Also the 80s references aren't very subtle, and there's music like every other scene.
Hope it gets better! It's not bad, it's just not as tightly knit as the first season.
2. It's a callback to season one. The boys teach the word to El after using it to describe the bullies. She uses it multiple times through out the season.
I like the new season. It feels a little more unflinching in aspects of it. It's already had a couple really good emotional scenes from the actors. I'm really impressed by the cast. I can understand why some feel there are moments in the first half that are slower, but I really am enjoying every single episode so far. Considering most Second Seasons to really successful first seasons hit a slump, I feel confident saying that Stranger Things Season 2 is not that. It really feels like they have control of their show/world and its really impressive.
Ep 1-4 Spoilers
Ep 1-4 Spoilers
*Damn if Dustin isnt a piece of shit. I always excused his behavior as being an 80s trope in the Season 1. But he crossed the line in this season, to the point that I actually disliked him.
*That argument scene with Eleven and Hopper is really intense. I'm not sure I understand Hopper's angry actions. I get it in terms of being frustrated. He clearly loves her as his own child, and is afraid for her life. And he's also angry that she put his own life in jeopardy. But he comes off way too harsh in this scene. I know the situation isnt ideal, but I just figured Hopper would be a little more gentle. This doesnt really line up with the Hopper we knew from flashbacks with his kid. Or the Hopper that IMO changed by the end of Season 1.
Surely there was a better way to explain to Eleven how she is putting everyone's life at risk, including his own, including Mike. In fact we even see in some flash backs, that hes been gentler with her in the past. Ill chalk this up to being rusty as a parent. But the tone of this serene got really uncomfortable. Like I was surprised at how vicious Hopper got.
*That argument scene with Eleven and Hopper is really intense. I'm not sure I understand Hopper's angry actions. I get it in terms of being frustrated. He clearly loves her as his own child, and is afraid for her life. And he's also angry that she put his own life in jeopardy. But he comes off way too harsh in this scene. I know the situation isnt ideal, but I just figured Hopper would be a little more gentle. This doesnt really line up with the Hopper we knew from flashbacks with his kid. Or the Hopper that IMO changed by the end of Season 1.
Surely there was a better way to explain to Eleven how she is putting everyone's life at risk, including his own, including Mike. In fact we even see in some flash backs, that hes been gentler with her in the past. Ill chalk this up to being rusty as a parent. But the tone of this serene got really uncomfortable. Like I was surprised at how vicious Hopper got.
Yes, I completely agree with what you wrote about Hopper! In fact I was even unexpectedly laughing at how quickly it escalated. Really not the storyline I had imagined for either of them.
Yeah, it wasnt what I was expecting either.
Season 1-4 spoilers:
It literally gets uncomfortable at a certain point too. Like it does escalate quickly and I agree its almost comical due to the transition and how "big" the whole thing blows up. But then it goes on and on. And Hopper becomes increasingly hostile/ and angry. Like the the way the dialogue was delivered by the actor. So I'm not really sure that scene "landed" for me. I guess we will have to see where they go with his arc this season. We still dont know everything (possibly) about his time after Season 1 (we have a month missing in time). So far all we have seen, is him starting to drop off food for Eleven. And then eventually finding her.
So I'm willing to wait. But damn. I do get that the reason he was mad, was that she jeopardized him and her own safety. So the motivation behind his anger made sense. But it was just HOW he got angry (as you said, the escalating quickly), and then how vicious he got, that rubbed me the wrong way. Honestly, didnt even really feel like Hopper to me. But I dunno, I can imagine living a secret life would make you pretty agitated and stressed out.
So I'm willing to wait. But damn. I do get that the reason he was mad, was that she jeopardized him and her own safety. So the motivation behind his anger made sense. But it was just HOW he got angry (as you said, the escalating quickly), and then how vicious he got, that rubbed me the wrong way. Honestly, didnt even really feel like Hopper to me. But I dunno, I can imagine living a secret life would make you pretty agitated and stressed out.
Not sure how I missed that in the first season. It makes even less sense now since that was '83 and no one was actually saying that in such a way so commonly, and certainly not in Indiana (I grew up there). Or hell, maybe I did find it silly in the first season, but since most everything else was so good, I just let it slide and then forgot about it. Strange that it just stuck out to me this season so much.
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Episode 7 was so disappointing, I didn't enjoy it one bit. I'm hoping the last couple parts can improve pacing and iron out subplots
Absolutely.
It came off as abusive, rather than angry. It rubbed me the wrong way too. Still haven't watched past this episode though so we'll see.
Just finished watching it. Meh :/
It's one of those sequels which really don't have much reason for existence. It's fun at times, but feels like a rehash of the first seasons with some nice tweaks here and there (bitchin'!), but otherwise not that exciting. I sure hope they don't make a third one.
It's one of those sequels which really don't have much reason for existence. It's fun at times, but feels like a rehash of the first seasons with some nice tweaks here and there (bitchin'!), but otherwise not that exciting. I sure hope they don't make a third one.
Just finished watching the entire season, I rarely binge watch shows but season 1 and 2 get me so hooked I just need to see the next one . My impressions below
Overall an amazing series and another great season , really hope they do another one .
- Season starts off well , love the arcade and upside down flashbacks , all the kids are amazing again
- I love learning more about the upside down , I wish it showed it more , the tunnel stuff was nice but I am intrigued by every new thing they show.
- Shadow monster looks frightening , and I would love to know what effect those flower spores have in future seasons (they must do something )
- By far the best part of the season for me was when will confronts the shadow monster and the thing just goes all through him, that shit was amazingly well done
- Likewise when will is in the field screaming from the pain
- I loved bob and I love they didn't turn him into some kind of bad guy
- Could have done without billy, the entire ep7 and the Nancy subplots but I understand they do have some significant story important (teaching 11 how to access her full power)
Overall an amazing series and another great season , really hope they do another one .
Just saw this pop up on my feed. What a dumb thing to do. Hope it doesn't impact the show in the future.
I watched 7 episodes yesterday and now wondering whether to stretch out the finale until tomorrow or just sit and watch the rest now.. So good <3.
Just finished. Amazing show. Although not as good as season 1, it still is one of the best there.
I always liked Hopper, but I like him even more after this season. And Steve, can't believe I'm saying this, but he is one of my favorites in season 2.
I always liked Hopper, but I like him even more after this season. And Steve, can't believe I'm saying this, but he is one of my favorites in season 2.
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Overall, I was a big fan. It's less structurally tight than the first season (particularly regarding Episode 7), but I never felt like the show was keeping around characters who no longer had any reason to be on the show, a frequent issue in follow-up stories like this. They managed to orchestrate another strong triple-climax, which is a really tough act.
This is the most controversial part of the season, for obvious reasons. While I didn't find most of the characters all that interesting (and I don't think the show particularly cared to make them interesting, either; 008 was the only one that mattered (incidentally, does this mean there's a 007 out there?), I thought it -- and really, the bulk of Eleven's story this season -- was valuable for allowing Eleven to self-actualize away for various authority figures and well-meaning people. She has to figure out some stuff on her own.
The minute Hopper said that he wanted Eleven to have a night out in the meantime, I got the biggest grin on my face, since I knew immediately what that was referring to. That whole Snow Ball sequence was pure, sweet fanservice.
Into the 4th episode but just stopped in to say that Dolby Vision has upped the visual quality by a considerable amount. If you have the opportunity watch this on a true HDR capable device/TV. The scene were
is so much better when you have such a pronounced time of day through the lighting.
El is leaving the cabin
Upto episode 4 so far and loving it more than the 1st series,heard the end has a better conclusion than s1 so excitement is building even further
I didn't think it was terrible, but it does feel like filler.
Millie crying for 30mins after the Papa scene was an interesting behind the scenes detail
I'll need to have a look through some of my books but I'm sure I've seen mouth-breather (as a pejorative) attested to early 20th century. I did some research years ago on dysphemisms and I think I spotted that. I'll have a rummage later and find out.
