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BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
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Basically, what was the worst movie that tried to set itself up as the start of a franchise but ended up only creating a terrible movie?

I gotta think that the winner was Amazing Spider-Man 2 and it's shoehorned attempt at creating a Sinister Six, on top of the rest of the garbage fire that was that movie.

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Platy

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Oct 25, 2017
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The best thing about this movie was a trailer with placeholder audio.
Amazing Spider-Man holds no candle to it.

Honorable mention to a movie that tried the same cinematic universe:
But was not as a clusterfuck as the mummy

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BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
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The Mummy gave us that trailer without music or SFX. I can't hate it.
 

mjc

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,879
Even the absolute power of scientology couldn't propel The Mummy.
 

Booki

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,865
Brooklyn
I wish I could put The Nun here, but it's already caught up in The Conjuring universe.

Throw my vote at Amazing Spiderman 2.
 

doinkies

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Jun 20, 2018
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First thing that popped into my head. Killed the entire "universe" before it even got started.

I still remember reading an article where the doink in charge of that "universe" went "WE'RE GONNA HAVE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA AND QUASIMODO MOVIES TOO, PLEASE BE EXCITED."

I'm morbidly curious to find out how terrible their modern-day ~action~ version of Hunchback of Notre Dame would actually be...
 

ZackieChan

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Oct 27, 2017
8,056
People saying The Mummy obviously haven't seen Robin Hood yet. At least The Mummy had Cruise and Crow.
 

ZackieChan

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Oct 27, 2017
8,056
I haven't seen it but let me guess, post credit scene with Little John?
Naw, Jamie Fox is Little John. His explanation for the name is hella silly though (just John in this film). There's a dopey ass scene at the end extending it to other movies and
they move into Sherwood Forest at the end of the film
so you can tell this was just the first one they planned. I'll have to check and see if it has some end credits scene...

Edit: maybe I'm confusing it with the King Arthur CU they were planning. Weren't there like 6 Robin Hood films planned, or something crazy like that?
 

Jon Carter

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm not sure why people think Amazing 2 is worse than the first one. It's definitely better, though it's a low bar. But I think it's the only MCU-starter wannabe I've seen, so it's the worst by default.

EDIT: Also the very end looks cooler than anything in the first film:

 
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Broken Joystick

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
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King Arthur was intended to be a six-film franchise.
Arthur, Lancelot, and others would each get their own film and then come together Avengers style.
Warner used pieces of script from several aborted King Arthur films that never came to fruition.
Film lost 150 million for WB.
Nobody remembers it exists.
 

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For me, Dracula Untold was one of those fun bad movies. If it makes any sense. But yeah....you can't start a universe with that
 

Ryuelli

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Oct 26, 2017
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I legimitely enjoy both of the Amazing Spiderman movies. I also think his suit in them is MUCH better than Tom Holland's in Spiderman Homecoming.

Don't know how they made the same mistake in TAS2 as Spiderman 3 though by having too many villains, but it's still a nice popcorn flick.
 

Buckle

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Oct 27, 2017
41,091
BVS and Justice League for me.

Because it royally fucked characters I actually cared about while trying to greedily fast track their way to what they thought was an easy payday.
 
Nov 9, 2017
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Gotta give it to that john travolta scifi movie, battlefield earth or something like that.

Even thought it wasn't trying to be the next MCU it tried being the next star wars which is even worse in my opinion.
 

Violence Jack

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ghostbusters 2016

Was supposed to be the start of a Ghost Corps cinematic universe that was cancelled after the film failed at the box office.

I just flat out refused to watch The Mummy, and I don't entirely hate BvS. It was just horribly disappointing. GB 2016 was awful, not funny, poorly directed, and somehow boring.
 

CoolestSpot

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Oct 25, 2017
17,325
Reminder that Xmen Origins: Wolverine had the title cause they were gonna branch off and give as many characters as they can "origin" movies
 

BannedEpisode

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Oct 28, 2017
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King Arthur was intended to be a six-film franchise.
Arthur, Lancelot, and others would each get their own film and then come together Avengers style.
Warner used pieces of script from several aborted King Arthur films that never came to fruition.
Film lost 150 million for WB.
Nobody remembers it exists.

I saw this movie before it's initial release without knowing anything about it. It has a really terrible first 15 minutes that don't match the rest of the movie.

Overall though I thought it was pretty decent.
 

Vic_Viper

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King Arthur was intended to be a six-film franchise.
Arthur, Lancelot, and others would each get their own film and then come together Avengers style.
Warner used pieces of script from several aborted King Arthur films that never came to fruition.
Film lost 150 million for WB.
Nobody remembers it exists.
Wait, what? They were planning on making this the beginning of a franchise lol?
 

trikster40

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Oct 28, 2017
682
I think people are confusing a multi-film franchise with cinematic universes.

King Arthur, even if they had 6 movies planned, would be a franchise, not a universe. Maybe if they planned on having movies for each knight of the round table, but if they were all about Arthur, that's not a cinematic universe. There's no movies that tie in and culminate in an epic web of characters and stories interwoven throughout.

The Mummy is a good one because that was indeed planned to be a universe.

I think the obvious choice here is the DCEU.
 

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King Arthur was intended to be a six-film franchise.
Arthur, Lancelot, and others would each get their own film and then come together Avengers style.
Warner used pieces of script from several aborted King Arthur films that never came to fruition.
Film lost 150 million for WB.
Nobody remembers it exists.

Really? Jeez. I can't imagine how they thought people were going to get excited about historical figures.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Hard to say OP when you already nailed it at the start.

Then entirety of the DCU would be my pick after that.
 

boontobias

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Apr 14, 2018
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Its genius. Dr. Jekyll will be our Nick Fury. Tom Cruise will get mummy powers so the entire lineup is men then from there we'll figure the rest out.
 
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HotHamBoy

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's actually the DCEU because unlike the others they just won't stop making more movies
 

kai3345

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King Arthur was intended to be a six-film franchise.
Arthur, Lancelot, and others would each get their own film and then come together Avengers style.
Warner used pieces of script from several aborted King Arthur films that never came to fruition.
Film lost 150 million for WB.
Nobody remembers it exists.

i haven't seen it but it sounds like that new robin hood movie with the kid from kingsman is trying to do this also.

there's apparently a lot of pauses after key names are revealed (like the sherwood forest) as if the audience is supposed to gasp and be stoked about the next movie
 

Omanisat

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King Arthur was intended to be a six-film franchise.
Arthur, Lancelot, and others would each get their own film and then come together Avengers style.
Warner used pieces of script from several aborted King Arthur films that never came to fruition.
Film lost 150 million for WB.
Nobody remembers it exists.
Yeah, but it's thanks to this movie we have a clean version of the music from that "We Are ODST" trailer, so it wasn't a total write-off.
 

Vertpin

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Oct 27, 2017
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i haven't seen it but it sounds like that new robin hood movie with the kid from kingsman is trying to do this also.

there's apparently a lot of pauses after key names are revealed (like the sherwood forest) as if the audience is supposed to gasp and be stoked about the next movie
Lmfao really?
 

Falconbox

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Oct 27, 2017
4,600
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i haven't seen it but it sounds like that new robin hood movie with the kid from kingsman is trying to do this also.

there's apparently a lot of pauses after key names are revealed (like the sherwood forest) as if the audience is supposed to gasp and be stoked about the next movie

Who else would be in a Robin Hood MCU? Other Robin Hood characters, or would they be bringing characters from other works of fiction?
 
Oct 29, 2017
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First thing that popped into my head. Killed the entire "universe" before it even got started.
TECHNICALLY 2015's Victor Frankenstein was the start of the "Dark Universe", but that was a failure, so they attempted to reboot it with Mummy. Who knows if Mummy took off if they would go back and make it cannon or not.
 

Z-Beat

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Oct 25, 2017
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Take your pick of any of the attempts to make another universal monster universe. The Mummy, Dracula Untold, Van Helsing (this one's a guilty pleasure film of mine so I'll let it pass), etc.