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TMZ: Video of NFL Player Kareem Hunt Kicking Woman (Update: released by the Chiefs)
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The worst part is Kareem is relentless. He is trying to be pulled away but he keeps trying to charge. The aftermath would have been much different if he wasn't restrained at all. The woman doesn't get leveled like Ray Rice's poor wife, but Kareem was out for blood and that feels just as gross to me.
Hockey is incredibly physical and violent, yet I don't recall stories of those players being caught physically assaulting people in public (save for the one time someone climbed over the boards). Hell, many of the 'goons' of the old were just giant teddy bears who weren't gifted enough to play at the elite level so they took up enforcer roles.
I didn't defend her actions though. I was simply commenting on his actions. But we're probably sating the same thing here in both parties were garbage
he threw a guy and his teddy bear out of a second story window over his patio.
Black men, the perpetual punching bags of racist abuse in America. Just sit down and take it!
There is more than one way to combat racial abuse, especially in this case. He chose the wrong option.
He'd have probably been fine if he walked away after the push assuming it was in response to some racist shit. Too many opportunities to deescalate.
And you know she said it how? Someone on his crew said so? The same people who were there using women as sex toys? The same group of guys who took her phone and smashed it when she tried to film the abuse? Yeah, I think I'm going to believe what I actually saw rather than the word of a group of guys who did shitty things and then lied about them after the fact, only to have those lies betrayed by video evidence.
Even her friend said she was standing outside screaming racist shit. I get if you want to ignore that part and all but it happened.
I see we've circled back to poking the "She had it coming" hornet's nest that got that one poster a ban, be better people come on
Regardless of what you're called, it doesn't give you the right to commit violence and beat women.
You don't sit down and take it, but you're not accomplishing shit by beating the person who said it.
Not ignoring shit. Saying there's proof of one thing and not of the other. And even if she did say it, it doesn't justify the response, although I get if you want to ignore that but it happened.
Yep
A black man that went after a white woman like that would probably be the exact opposite of what a league based on no kneeling to protest police brutality against black people would want.
Hunt acting like it's his first day in America as a black male, you can't make me believe he's not been called worse especially as a football player.
He seemed overly hyped up and now everyone knows he's an easily provoked black male painting a huge target on himself. I say easily provoked because had it been another man I think it would be seen differently as it's clear this woman was of little physical danger to him while a man could in fact be.
As a black person in America myself it's incredibly disappointing to see.
I already know life isn't fair and this is why in the black community starting when boys are very young we have to have conversations on how they can't do things the same way as their white counterparts. How they have to have measured reactions because of perception bias. Had an off duty cop come around the corner he possibly ends up dead over what?
As a black woman clearly he didn't respect those women as anything more than entertainment for him and his friends so why act shocked that one would not respect him. That's the nature of the business he chose to put himself in despite being in a place in life to surround himself with people he respected and would respect him.
You can't change people with racist views all you can do is control your own reaction, company you keep, thus your path in life. His physical reaction to her doesn't teach her anything it just further reenforces her views on black men that she probably learned from her own upbringing and the bias society has built up around black men.
Off topic a bit just to show even I have flaws but my immediate reaction to this news was welp guess I'm not taking any more roster updates from Madden as I chose the Chiefs to play my season as lol.
He seemed overly hyped up and now everyone knows he's an easily provoked black male painting a huge target on himself. I say easily provoked because had it been another man I think it would be seen differently as it's clear this woman was of little physical danger to him while a man could in fact be.
As a black person in America myself it's incredibly disappointing to see.
I already know life isn't fair and this is why in the black community starting when boys are very young we have to have conversations on how they can't do things the same way as their white counterparts. How they have to have measured reactions because of perception bias. Had an off duty cop come around the corner he possibly ends up dead over what?
As a black woman clearly he didn't respect those women as anything more than entertainment for him and his friends so why act shocked that one would not respect him. That's the nature of the business he chose to put himself in despite being in a place in life to surround himself with people he respected and would respect him.
You can't change people with racist views all you can do is control your own reaction, company you keep, thus your path in life. His physical reaction to her doesn't teach her anything it just further reenforces her views on black men that she probably learned from her own upbringing and the bias society has built up around black men.
Off topic a bit just to show even I have flaws but my immediate reaction to this news was welp guess I'm not taking any more roster updates from Madden as I chose the Chiefs to play my season as lol.
People ignoring he tried to get her to fuck his friends first, then kicked her out when she said no.
Even if you think he was justified, you're defending an idiot and a scumbag.
Even if you think he was justified, you're defending an idiot and a scumbag.
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Belcher was 25, if he had CTE it was the early stages of it - don't make that as an excuse for what he did
CTE has been discovered in high schoolers. Chris Henry was a 26 year old wide receiver and had CTE when he died. Most of these top players have been playing tackle football (and probably been suffering blows to the head) since they were 12 and 13 years old.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...r-tackle-football-played-before-12/563330002/
CTE doesn't require a long 10-15 year NFL career.
Aaron Hernandez had severe CTE despite him stopping playing football around 24 or 25 years old because of all his legal trouble according to doctors who studied his brain.
here is the picture comparing his brain and a healthy person his age.
SI(?) wrote an incredible and heartbreaking piece on Belcher a few years ago. It was a textbook case on the dangers of CTE, according to his teammates he turned into a different person after a bad concussion he received about a week before the murder/suicide.
Ha... He's too good. He'll be picked up as soon as his league suspension is sorted out. Maybe even before that.
Lot of teams would love to have him ready for next season..
"I just regret my decision" seems to be the bread and butter in this conversation thus far, after being asked a few times, but not actually saying what exactly he's regretting.
He regrets his decision trying to get one of his buddies laid.
Which of his epically stupid decisions does he regret? Using women as toys for him and his crew? Tossing one of them out into the hall after she dared refuse to have sex with one of his friends? Shoving and kicking her? Lying to the team about what actually happened? Or just regret getting caught? Fuck off, Kareem.
I have no clue WHY they have him on EPSN. Starting the PR campaign early?
So a bit more details are coming out now about this whole situation.
It seems that the police report that was released didn't actually match what actually happened in the incident, in particular, didn't match the details of what happened in the video.
And since the Chiefs and the NFL were relying on the report, and were unable to obtain the video, it's plausible they could've been just that ignorant of the facts of what happened, especially if Hunt lied about it all to them.
The Cleveland Police apparently didn't even watch the video of the incident, and made the decision to not press charges as a result of it.
I remember the one person here that kept saying that just because the police didn't charge him, that means he's innocent, and off the hook. Well, I hate to tell you this, but the police aren't always the best at their job, just fyi.
Such an ugly incident all around, and it seems that the main failure now has more to do with the police mishandling this whole situation from the start, and it let's the Chiefs and NFL off the hook slightly now...just slightly...
It seems that the police report that was released didn't actually match what actually happened in the incident, in particular, didn't match the details of what happened in the video.
And since the Chiefs and the NFL were relying on the report, and were unable to obtain the video, it's plausible they could've been just that ignorant of the facts of what happened, especially if Hunt lied about it all to them.
The Cleveland Police apparently didn't even watch the video of the incident, and made the decision to not press charges as a result of it.
I remember the one person here that kept saying that just because the police didn't charge him, that means he's innocent, and off the hook. Well, I hate to tell you this, but the police aren't always the best at their job, just fyi.
Such an ugly incident all around, and it seems that the main failure now has more to do with the police mishandling this whole situation from the start, and it let's the Chiefs and NFL off the hook slightly now...just slightly...
ERA was down so I couldn't post this at the time it broke: Rapoport says Hunt's also being investigated for a June incident where he punched a man
I was going to post a similar sarcastic response about Kaepernick; this is why I don't watch the NFL anymore.
Btw, who's "mal"?
It's a damn shame that this is the case..... and Mal is from the Joe Budden podcast and he says that all of the time.
Listening on Sunday, a lot of execs expect him to be snatched up rather quickly. I fully expect him to be playing next year.
He'll definitely get picked up as he's only 23 years old. But he may not even be allowed to play next season due to whatever suspension the NFL decides to hand out
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...t-faces-more-than-baseline-sixgame-suspension
They note that he could work around it by admitting guilt and just taking the suspension now. But that would also require a team to pick him up immediately so that he could be serving it. And any team that touches him right now is going to take a lot of heat, so they may not be willing to do it.
Did you forget about Kane and the cab driver? Also, Austin Watson, suspended 27 games for domestic violence. Voynov domestic abuse charges.
That said, the NFL and college football run afoul of the law more often.
I get what Shannon's saying, but lawyers can be disbarred in certain states for assault. Another state might give them a chance, but the state they are practicing in could say "you can't practice law here because of this assault". I think a year or two suspension is fine but being banned for life isn't.
He was right with his argument. It's why they really couldn't answer his questions. Sure NFL players are known much more around the country. But doctors in their own communities tend to be well known as well. So it's not like they're in obscure positions. Same goes for police. If you're going to apply a lifetime ban to athletes when it comes to domestic violence then that should be applied to anyone with a powerful and influential position. It really makes no sense to hold athletes to a higher standard than other influential people.