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mael

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Nov 3, 2017
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When we get to choose which controversy was the funniest at the end of the year, I swear to god I won't be able to choose.
 

Dr Doom

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Oct 25, 2017
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m_dorian

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Oct 27, 2017
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This, also as someone on the last page pointed out the influencer bag wasn't even a specially made item, it's literally an existing canvas bag model with just the 76 logo slapped on. But nah let's create some more outrage when it makes zero sense in this context amirite.

Yet Bethesda marketing should have used common sense since the comparison would have happened inevitably and would definitely caused alarm because if you are the one that pays $ 200 for canvas and get a nylon noone could blame you for been outraged.

Noone of them and the people that feel unappreciated by Bethesda would stop and think "This was a marketing effort, no relation to people that bought the collectors edition" and stare happily at their nylon. And i can guess neither would you.

Oh, and the bag was specially made for the "influencers" since it was part of Bethesda's promotion even if the 76 logo was just a sticker.

Edit: Also, I can argue that any collector's edition is a light form of marketing: "Look at the nice things the collectors get, i wish i had the money to buy one."
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Imagine being an influencer of the ruiners of the Fallout franchise.
 

Apa504

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Oct 25, 2017
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This, also as someone on the last page pointed out the influencer bag wasn't even a specially made item, it's literally an existing canvas bag model with just the 76 logo slapped on. But nah let's create some more outrage when it makes zero sense in this context amirite.

Thats not the point. Bethesda said that the canvas bags were expensive to make. People paid 200 dollars for the collectors edition and they still got an inferior product, but apparently an influencer who paid nothing can get it for free. Doesnt matter if its not the same desing.
 

JeffGubb

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Oct 25, 2017
842
Yet Bethesda marketing should have used common sense since the comparison would have happened inevitably and would definitely caused alarm because if you are the one that pays $ 200 for canvas and get a nylon noone could blame you for been outraged.

Noone of them and the people that feel unappreciated by Bethesda would stop and think "This was a marketing effort, no relation to people that bought the collectors edition" and stare happily at their nylon. And i can guess neither would you.

Oh, and the bag was specially made for the "influencers" since it was part of Bethesda's promotion even if the 76 logo was just a sticker.

Sure. But I haven't seen a single person here say, "this makes me feel bad because I bought the $200 edition." The people who did do that should keep asking for more back from Bethesda -- although they should probably just focus on the misleading advertising and not "someone else got a better bag."

But if we didn't buy the collector's edition, we don't need to hypothesize what those who did are feeling. We can recognize objective reality.

This is the kind of situation that gets better every time that it gets worse.
This is the motivation behind this entire thread.
 

Francesco

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Nov 22, 2017
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It was an event gift, right? The bags looks nothing like the one advertised for the limited ed. Gamers gonna gamer.
 

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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This, also as someone on the last page pointed out the influencer bag wasn't even a specially made item, it's literally an existing canvas bag model with just the 76 logo slapped on. But nah let's create some more outrage when it makes zero sense in this context amirite.
Then that begs the question why didn't they just do that for collector editions?
 
Dec 28, 2017
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So all those influencers cunts said nothing about this until now. This in itself the biggest problem with video games this days. Influencers fully of shit.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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But if we didn't buy the collector's edition, we don't need to hypothesize what those who did are feeling. We can recognize objective reality.

No one is hypothesizing, they are empathizing. If I had bought this collection and saw that influencers not only got a nicer bag but were treated far better than me, I would be pissed.
 

RPG_Fanatic

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Oct 25, 2017
3,622
Okay, it is not the same bag, not the same content. But the fact that Bethesda used canvas for the 'influencers', and were so shady to their customers is not a good look.
 

AuthenticM

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Oct 25, 2017
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this is hilarious

Bethesda is totally winning Giant Bomb's Hottest Mess award of 2018 lmao.
 

JeffGubb

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Oct 25, 2017
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No one is hypothesizing, they are empathizing. If I had bought this collection and saw that influencers not only got a nicer bag but were treated far better than me, I would be pissed.

OK. I can't help it. To me, it seems like people are just mad at Bethesda and working backward from that and looking for any new reason to keep being mad at them. That's probably not you, but the people who are saying stuff like, "ha this just keep getting better." Yeah, they don't care.
 

Teamocil

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Oct 25, 2017
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All of those bullet points are all just part of the game's marketing budget. Now, that doesn't matter to the people who paid for one thing and got another, but we don't need to act like these things are connected when they're probably not. The screwup doesn't need to keep escalating, and trying to force a connection between a marketing swag bag and fulfilling customer orders just makes this look like a bunch of people who probably didn't buy the $200 edition using this as an excuse to yell at a company that made a bad game.
Your posts are falling on deaf ears. Bethesda did screw up with FO76 but this thread is seriously grasping for straws. Era making a mountain out of a mole hill as usual

And before anyone brings up my avatar—yes, I'm well aware of my avatar being Pip Boy. No, I didn't buy 76, I played the beta and determined it's not for me (right now)
 

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OK. I can't help it. To me, it seems like people are just mad at Bethesda and working backward from that and looking for any new reason to keep being mad at them. That's probably not you, but the people who are saying stuff like, "ha this just keep getting better." Yeah, they don't care.

I wouldn't put it past people to want Bethesda to fail. There is a lot of wrong in this industry and anytime it looks like people can hammer the nails in a developers coffin they want to, and it's simply because they have been in a position where they have felt they were wronged.

People do not feel intense disdain for a company just because they are sick demented fucks, they feel it because it happens to them.

And I don't blame them. Bethesda doesn't care about their consumers, so why care about the corporation?
 

mario_O

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Nov 15, 2017
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And before anyone brings up my avatar—yes, I'm well aware of my avatar being Pip Boy. No, I didn't buy 76, I played the beta and determined it's not for me (right now)
Actually, our avatar is Vault Boy, not Pip Boy. The Pip Boy is the computer-thing you wear on your wrist. People keep making this mistake. Just saying.
 

Apa504

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Oct 25, 2017
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The desing doesnt matter.

What matters is the action.

Consumer pays 200 dollars, and gets and inferior product. Bethesda says that the product advertised is scarce, and is expensive to make.

Influencer pays nothing, gets better product made with the materials advertised in the collectors edition, that are supposed to be scarce and expensive to make.

This is not hard to understand people.
 

rocket

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Oct 27, 2017
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This gravy train never stops. YT content creator can just ride this train all the way to 2019 for easy clicks.

They all should sent Bethesda X'mas cards.
 

Gunny T Highway

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Oct 27, 2017
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Even if is not the same bag as the collectors edition, this is still scummy with how they have overall handled the marketing.
 

s_mirage

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Oct 25, 2017
2,770
Birmingham, UK
I've been sick of this kind of thing for a long time: reviewers/influencers getting cool, often bespoke, items, while the expensive collector's editions usually consist of cheap shit. All that surprises me is how blind Bethesda must be to not spot how doing this, while simultaneously short changing paying customers out of something that was advertised, makes them look pretty awful.
 

Ryutaryi

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Oct 25, 2017
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I hope this schadenfreude train never stops. It sucks for anyone that bought it and was swindled by these fuckers, but I hope Bethesda never hears the end of it.

Also fuck buying any of their games ever again.
 

Musubi

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Oct 25, 2017
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You know every day I think the shit storm around Fallout 76 can't get worse and yet every day it does and I'm amazed at the new wrinkle. Like hoooooly shit. You shat on your paying customers but tried to buddy up to your influencers. Just fucking ghoulish. I think I'm okay on buying any Bethesda products for awhile.
 

Floex

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Oct 27, 2017
1,752
As mentioned in the FIRST page, it's not the same bag that was promised in the collectors edition.

Get mad but not at things like this.