Oh, and despite both of them looking like likely lynch targets, Turmoil and DC seem to have very little to say about each other
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BREXIT MAFIA PHASE 2 | Border-Line Insanity!
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I meant regardless of us hatthese lynched lined up, what is your read on malus?
Yep I noticed that.
Because we need somebody to warn us for you.
I'm getting stick for defending Faddy or not voting yesterday, but you've been all over the place so people don't even bother. It's like people just accept it cause you're nin, but I don't think it's that different than last game. Only thing is you have post 1 town vanilla claim now.
Null/slight town lean. He's coasting a lot, but I think a lot of his posts seem well thought out. He is playing like his last game where he was mafia which makes me slightly nervous, but I've also never seen town Malus before, so maybe this is just how he plays.
thats wrong, they accept it because deep inside they know that i am Town and i do not lie
I avoid giving reads, because I'm mostly confused right now. I probably haven't kept up as much as I should have.
I feel nin is super suspicious with his votes and interactions with confirmed scum players, but people seem to just hand wave it away which makes me question myself.
Turmoil also seems to have a pretty bad voting record so far. His vote on ET was okay but then there's the vote on Alex on day 3. Though he was on L_P before that who turned out to be scum as well so it could just be bad judgement. The vote on L_P day 4 was pretty late, and at a time when L_P already had a sizeable lead over him so I'm not giving points for that. Also even though he advocated for L_P on day 3 he first voted nin day 4 but then again I heavily scum read nin at that time as well. Lastly we have the business with the melonrabbit vote today which seems to be a very opportunistic vote and against his earlier scum reads.
All in all I would say I'm not 100% sure he is scum but if he flips scum we should definitely go for DC the next phase (or in reverse order should DC flip scum first).
I have absolutely no grasp on melonrabbit. She is mostly just there not contributing much, so could be coasting scum but I don't really get that impression so far. Votes were average at best. CS vote day 1 gets some side eye because it was so late and brought him back into the race against ET. I feel day 2 isn't really representative because it was town v town. Was late on day 3 but still in territory where the lynch could have been flipped so could be a sign of town. Not sure what to make of the vote day 4. She scum read zeke before so I guess it was just consequential to put her vote there. L_P was pretty much the chosen target so no need to switch later in the day.
Z-Beat and absolutbro are in a similar boat. Should turmoil flip town I would like to take a closer look at AB again though.
EzekelRAGE still gives me some bad feelings. Why is he so eager to hammer? Last time that happened I think he was a bomb defuser but I find it highly unlikely he drew the same role twice in a row. To me it looks more like he wants the credit for the lynches or stop discussion early. He also claimed that Fantomas was probably killed for his reads in his supposed chat but according to him he had Stu, Kalor and Grizzly in his scum list, while Faddy and Sophia were in his town list. It looks like this chat ability was a 1-shot but this raises the question who gains from such an ability? Do people really offer up more information if they are in a private chat with a player of unknown alignment? Especially if they know none of the two actually created the chat or did both of you assume the other created the chat until Fantomas' death?
All in all a turmoil flip would probably give us the most information now because of the votes day 4 and 5. I'm a bit concerned with the lack of defense for turmoil/DC but I guess if they really are the remaining scum there's not much they can do about it.
I feel nin is super suspicious with his votes and interactions with confirmed scum players, but people seem to just hand wave it away which makes me question myself.
Turmoil also seems to have a pretty bad voting record so far. His vote on ET was okay but then there's the vote on Alex on day 3. Though he was on L_P before that who turned out to be scum as well so it could just be bad judgement. The vote on L_P day 4 was pretty late, and at a time when L_P already had a sizeable lead over him so I'm not giving points for that. Also even though he advocated for L_P on day 3 he first voted nin day 4 but then again I heavily scum read nin at that time as well. Lastly we have the business with the melonrabbit vote today which seems to be a very opportunistic vote and against his earlier scum reads.
All in all I would say I'm not 100% sure he is scum but if he flips scum we should definitely go for DC the next phase (or in reverse order should DC flip scum first).
I have absolutely no grasp on melonrabbit. She is mostly just there not contributing much, so could be coasting scum but I don't really get that impression so far. Votes were average at best. CS vote day 1 gets some side eye because it was so late and brought him back into the race against ET. I feel day 2 isn't really representative because it was town v town. Was late on day 3 but still in territory where the lynch could have been flipped so could be a sign of town. Not sure what to make of the vote day 4. She scum read zeke before so I guess it was just consequential to put her vote there. L_P was pretty much the chosen target so no need to switch later in the day.
Z-Beat and absolutbro are in a similar boat. Should turmoil flip town I would like to take a closer look at AB again though.
EzekelRAGE still gives me some bad feelings. Why is he so eager to hammer? Last time that happened I think he was a bomb defuser but I find it highly unlikely he drew the same role twice in a row. To me it looks more like he wants the credit for the lynches or stop discussion early. He also claimed that Fantomas was probably killed for his reads in his supposed chat but according to him he had Stu, Kalor and Grizzly in his scum list, while Faddy and Sophia were in his town list. It looks like this chat ability was a 1-shot but this raises the question who gains from such an ability? Do people really offer up more information if they are in a private chat with a player of unknown alignment? Especially if they know none of the two actually created the chat or did both of you assume the other created the chat until Fantomas' death?
All in all a turmoil flip would probably give us the most information now because of the votes day 4 and 5. I'm a bit concerned with the lack of defense for turmoil/DC but I guess if they really are the remaining scum there's not much they can do about it.
Meh, so I looked a little closer at the point GP made in turmoil's favor, namely on D3 he brought LP to the forefront, making it scum vs scum. I think this is the sort of gambit a scum player could make. It was still early in the day phase, so the EOD votes were up in the air, and if he was one of the first people on LP and LP got lynched, that would make turmoil look favorable. In the end he switches his vote to Alexem, maybe in an attempt to save Faddy. I see the vote and unvote, and the reasoning for voting Alexem, but what it comes down to is that Faddy flipped scum.
My vote on turmoil remains.
My vote on turmoil remains.
Turmoil does look significantly worse with his melon vote and his poor response to being called out.
So basically I'm forced to vote Turmoil? At EOD I can understand, but I'm happy voting Nin.
Actually, I did forget that - I was only thinking of the players still in, but I'll concede that Faddy could have been a meaningless ninja too. As for Chuggernaut, he is not someone that I would consider lynching with the facts as they stand.
Have caught up on the play since last night - since DCPat and Turmoil went in to today as my first choices and Nin and Melon were in my second group, I feel that they are all reasonable candidates. I'll still keep my vote on DCPat, so I'll just say to watch out for ties as usual.
melonrabbit still hasn't voted. Are you waiting to see where your scum buddy ends up in the vote first?
Fair enough.
Thinking about it I guess it makes sense. If turmoil flips scum people will turn to you regardless so I guess it's in your interest that he flips town meaning you have no reason to vote for him.
I've been wary of nin all game. This shouldn't be surprising to you.
So you wanted me to ignore that there were three options on the table and only address dcpat and turmoil?
You are the queen of deflection.
Within a day you go from
You is nin here. To this:
So originally you'd want my flip over nin. Now you want nin lynched and trust me. That's a sharp 180.
You are scum.
Well, I know you're 110% wrong.
And I mean I tried and I know how stubborn you can be. You've chosen to interpret my words that way already.
Stop being ignorant.
You are pulling your reads out of your ass. You go with the flow and decided it's probably better to townread me at this point than throwing shade. Too bad it was spotted, huh
Nin asked my preferred order of flips and where'd I go after he flipped. I said (and still want) to flip Zeke first. That's paramount. Confirming Zeke is scum would lead to you Gorlak because of your relationship with him and then Nin, lastly of the three of you.
Then I was asked of the three active lynches and thus the second response.
And Nin is still on my scum list. Is your issue that I have trust in you left? Or that of those on the nin vote you look the best? Because both at this moment are true.
Then I was asked of the three active lynches and thus the second response.
And Nin is still on my scum list. Is your issue that I have trust in you left? Or that of those on the nin vote you look the best? Because both at this moment are true.
I think your and Zeke's back and forth are interesting. You've had some weak pushes on him but nothing substantial.
So you have the last 3 scum lined up in me, gor, nin? That doesn't even make sense.
Especially since it seems you townread gor?
Why are you making this so hard? I really can't tell if you made up this odd justification or seriously wrote it with that in mind.
==== DAY 5 VOTES ====
Day Start
turmoil7 (6 votes)
ezekelrage - #3797 #4008
swamped - #3880
absolutbro - #3897
gorlak - #3948 #3952
gorlak - #4014
thechuggernaut - #4021
ezekelrage - #4024
melonrabbit - #4060
dcpat (4 votes)
thechuggernaut - #3782 #4021
gorlak - #3857 #3948
alexem - #3878
nin - #3947 #3994
giant panda - #3977
malus - #4003
nin - #4035
nin (2 votes)
dcpat - #3785
z-beat - #3907
gorlak - #3952 #3990
melonrabbit (2 votes)
gorlak - #3990 #4014
nin - #3994 #4035
gir - #4006
ezekelrage - #4008 #4024
turmoil7 - #4011
thechuggernaut (0 votes)
turmoil7 - #3767 #4011
Post Counts:
gorlak: 60 nin: 50 thechuggernaut: 49 ezekelrage: 35 melonrabbit: 33 turmoil7: 20 alexem: 19 dcpat: 13 giant panda: 13 z-beat: 12 swamped: 10 absolutbro: 9 gir: 6 malus: 6 grizzly: 2 cabot: 1
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Day Start
turmoil7 (6 votes)
swamped - #3880
absolutbro - #3897
gorlak - #4014
thechuggernaut - #4021
ezekelrage - #4024
melonrabbit - #4060
dcpat (4 votes)
alexem - #3878
giant panda - #3977
malus - #4003
nin - #4035
nin (2 votes)
dcpat - #3785
z-beat - #3907
melonrabbit (2 votes)
gir - #4006
turmoil7 - #4011
thechuggernaut (0 votes)
Post Counts:
gorlak: 60 nin: 50 thechuggernaut: 49 ezekelrage: 35 melonrabbit: 33 turmoil7: 20 alexem: 19 dcpat: 13 giant panda: 13 z-beat: 12 swamped: 10 absolutbro: 9 gir: 6 malus: 6 grizzly: 2 cabot: 1
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Again: not what I was saying. Those were two separate questions and treating them as the same shows little more than you twisting my words.
I said, of all those on the nin vote, when the question was asked of me he's the only one I trust. I don't know if I completely townread him. And Stu brought a point of if there's is a remaining in the commonly townread tier.
I would rather vote for you today but as that's not happening I don't get too.
When exactly? Be specific because you know my schedule and personal life so well.
Me not happening last day phase didn't stop you from voting me.
Nope, this is where I'm at. Complete paranoia.
I'm not sure why you would ever want more from me than snark and gifs. I'm horrible at this game.
So I should stick my my guns, sorry shovel and keep this tunnel going?
It's been 6 hours and he vanished right when things were looking bad. I mean, he still has 4 hours, but I wouldn't be surprised if he never pops back in