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Keasar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Really looking forward to this!
Always was interested in the tabletop game, cause this is a prequel to the Mutant Chronicles games. But don't remember the odd character designs like the duck and fox dudes.... they were literally more like 40k mutations on humans.
Mutant has been long a very fabled RPG here in Sweden, one of the big classics next to Drakar och Demoner (Dragons & Demons). Mutant Chronicles is actually a spin-off of a spin-off of Mutant called Mutant R.Y.M.D (S.P.A.C.E) that was more Mad Max-ish style post-apocalypse with mega corporations fighting over Earth and the Solar System. Mutant have always been this game set in a "after The Great Catastrophe" Sweden, where mutated people, animals, intelligent rouge machines and more have been rebuilding in the ruins of Swedish cities (something that made it a lot more familiar to people than most post-apoc RPGs set in the US back then).
Animal mutations came from the Genlab Alpha book apparently.

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They have been part of the Mutant game for much longer in previous editions. Genlab Alpha however focused on them mostly for the latest Year Zero edition of the game, but I believe the core book have rules for them as well.

Also, never thought about noticing the Edsbyn skii sword the fox is carrying, I love those little details. :P
 

ara

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Oct 26, 2017
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Got excited when I saw this thread only to find out it's one of those games you get to play some days earlier if you pay more. Ugh.

Oh well, looking forward to some impressions. Very interested in the game.
 

Truant

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Oct 28, 2017
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As someone who greatly enjoys the tactical layer of XCOM, but not the meta/strategic part, this game looks right up my alley.
 

eddy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Animal mutations came from the Genlab Alpha book apparently.

The original inspiration came from Jack Kirby's Kamandi.

From a later-revision of the Mutant UA rule-book:

"Kamandi är en knasig tecknad serie av Jack Kirby, där talande djur härskar över världen
i en nära framtid. Lite av en fabel, men ändå inte. Därifrån tog vi idén
till de muterade djuren [...]"​
 

Martl

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Oct 30, 2017
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I would have paid full price for this game but because of game pass i can play it for "free" on release day.

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Dancrane212

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They have been part of the Mutant game for much longer in previous editions. Genlab Alpha however focused on them mostly for the latest Year Zero edition of the game, but I believe the core book have rules for them as well.

The original inspiration came from Jack Kirby's Kamandi.

From a later-revision of the Mutant UA rule-book:

"Kamandi är en knasig tecknad serie av Jack Kirby, där talande djur härskar över världen
i en nära framtid. Lite av en fabel, men ändå inte. Därifrån tog vi idén
till de muterade djuren [...]"

Good to know! There definitely seems to be a lot of history to that pen and paper game.

Reviews will drop on the 4th of December.

OK, we should have a decent amount of impressions from folk on PC before then at least.
 

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Fuhgeddit

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This game looks good, but sadly not for me. Like I am not that interested in the tactical strategy. Heck, if it came out for Switch, I'd probably buy it though.
 

TazKa

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think getting game pass for 60€ last week was a really good investment.
I will try Mutant Year Zero. Looks good. :)
 

JayWood2010

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Oct 27, 2017
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Im looking forward to this one. It will probably be my first Game Pass game. I love the world and characters, i just hope the story is good. I expect the gameplay will be, so im not concerned about that.
 

Nooblet

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Oct 25, 2017
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The game is still not out yet it seems, and eventhough it's technically 30th you can still order base game on steam and get it. I just did

EDIT: Oh man wow. So I literally "pre ordered" 4 mins before unlock and got in. Wouldn't have known if it wasn't for this thread. thanks OP!
 

Enforcer

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Oct 27, 2017
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Got excited when I saw this thread only to find out it's one of those games you get to play some days earlier if you pay more. Ugh.

Oh well, looking forward to some impressions. Very interested in the game.

That's what I thought too but it looks like the 3 day head start is also for the regular edition.

So you're not paying more just need to preorder.
 
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Dancrane212

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That's what I thought too but it looks like the 3 day head start is also for the regular edition.

So you're not paying more just need to preorder.

You don't even have to preorder. That early access is, apparently, going to be available up to December 4th; the PC release is essentially today.
 

eddy

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is one of those games where hard difficulty, not normal, is tagged as the "intended experience". Always comes across weird to me.

Ok, now they've relabelled these from "Easy", "Normal", "Hard" => "Normal", "Hard", "Very Hard", with Very Hard being the "intended experience".

Even weirder.
 

Mudcrab

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Oct 26, 2017
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Lol I learned about this game 2 days ago and now I'm frothing at the mouth to start a damn preload
 

Kadzork

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Oct 27, 2017
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X-ploration is a genre I never knew I needed but this feels pretty great.
 

voidecker

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Oct 27, 2017
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You don't even have to preorder. That early access is, apparently, going to be available up to December 4th; the PC release is essentially today.

Can anyone else confirm that you can start playing today if I were to purchase the regular edition now (after early release)?

I pre-ordered the DE thinking I would need to pay the extra cash to play over the weekend.

I might do a refund and grab the regular edition if I don't need the DE to play over the weekend.
 
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Dancrane212

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Can anyone else confirm that you can start playing today if I were to purchase the regular edition now (after early release)?

I pre-ordered the DE thinking I would need to pay the extra cash to play over the weekend.

I might do a refund and grab the regular edition if I don't need the DE to play over the weekend.

Posted above but the official twitter says you should be good.

Also from the Steam page:

Pre-order the Standard Edition and get a three-day head start. Pre-order the Deluxe Edition and get a three-day head start + instant access to the demo now.
 

noyram23

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Oct 25, 2017
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How's the game outside of combat? Is there a town or hub for interaction? Also how's customization? Can you change equipment and do they show?
 
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How's the game outside of combat? Is there a town or hub for interaction? Also how's customization? Can you change equipment and do they show?

There's a homebase (The Ark) that lets you buy equipment and talk to, at the very least, the Elder. Seems to be menu based though.

Character customisation does show up in-game. You can equip a top hat, visor or whatever else and have that reflected on the character model.

Timestamped here:
 

Kadzork

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Can you go into more detail?

The tactical play is punctuated by bouts of exploration. Scoping around the area looking for resources, loot & collectables and being able to choose when and how you engage the enemy - unless they spot you first of course.

*edit* I am also a big fan of the dialogue too. I love post apocalyptic conjecture about what a "Boom Box" does.
 

Nooblet

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Oct 25, 2017
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It feels great to have stealth and exploration in an xcom like game. Plus in Xcom and Battletrch it was a bit annoying to be limited by the grid movement even outside of combat. I understand it being there in Phantom Doctrine as you are basically outside of combat for whole game if you play it ideally.

Edit: Oh my God !! You can fast forward enemy turn. Wow! Why hasn't no other game done this before?
 

Ebullientprism

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Oct 25, 2017
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It feels great to have stealth and exploration in an xcom like game. Plus in Xcom and Battletrch it was a bit annoying to be limited by the grid movement even outside of combat. I understand it being there in Phantom Doctrine as you are basically outside of combat for whole game if you play it ideally.

How as Phantom Doctrine? Its on my list but the reviews are kinda mixed.
 

Nooblet

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How as Phantom Doctrine? Its on my list but the reviews are kinda mixed.
I loved it but it does have repetitive missions. The unique thing about the game is that depending on whether you play as KGB or CIA you get different characters in story and the start is different too. And once you finish you unlock a third faction that gives out even more explosion to the story. It's a cold war soy game and you actually get to be a spy so that's cool. IIavoided combat for almost all the game as it's a bit shit due to how peeking works in that game. So even if you're fully in cover visually, you can get shot due to the fact that the peeking mechanics mean even the tiles adjacent to you are "hitboxes" and all an enemy needs is one of those times in Line of sight to hit you since the game has no random hit chance (it's always 100% hit but you can improve your skill to dodge/graze bullets). This is the entire reason you have those GIFs of people getting shot through wall.
 

Moff

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Oct 26, 2017
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combat gamplay videos look really nice, I'll wait for reviews, though. It's important to me that the gameplay between the fights holds up.
 

Kadzork

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Oct 27, 2017
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Loving the atmosphere in this and the voice acting from Bormin and Dux has been good so far.
 

Ebullientprism

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I loved it but it does have repetitive missions. The unique thing about the game is that depending on whether you play as KGB or CIA you get different characters in story and the start is different too. And once you finish you unlock a third faction that gives out even more explosion to the story. It's a cold war soy game and you actually get to be a spy so that's cool. IIavoided combat for almost all the game as it's a bit shit due to how peeking works in that game. So even if you're fully in cover visually, you can get shot due to the fact that the peeking mechanics mean even the tiles adjacent to you are "hitboxes" and all an enemy needs is one of those times in Line of sight to hit you since the game has no random hit chance (it's always 100% hit but you can improve your skill to dodge/graze bullets). This is the entire reason you have those GIFs of people getting shot through wall.

Hmm. I think wait for a sale then. :P
 

Lashley

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Very early impressions, but so far this is utterly brilliant.

Not sure I can go back to X-COM's click to move everywhere gameplay.
 
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