Im 34 years old and never in my entire life had any desire to have kids.
I like children and growing up with younger cousins I always had a good relationship with them, but I just never had that desire to be a father, or to have that responsability that is required to properly raise a children.
My Girlfriend has the same mindset. Shes 30 years old and we've been together for the past 7 years.
She has a dog and I have two (I rescued both of them from the streets when they were less than 1y old). I really love them (they are currently sleeping with me in my bed while I type this)
And I know, I know... you cant even begin to compare dogs to children. The responsability and work to raise kids doesnt even come close and I do agree. But this is just to say that while I like having dogs and taking care of them, I have 0 interest in having a child.
I was interested in doing a vasectomy for a very long time but never really researched how it was done, where to go to do it, and what were the requirements. I just knew someday I sure af would be doing it.
For the first 4 years of my relationship I only used the Coitus interruptus method (Pull out method) as the only method of contraception with my girlfriend and would only ejaculate inside her when she was on her period. (We never had any problem having sex while she was on those days... shower then bam, ready to go!)
But even so, it was still a risk (a very small one but a risk nonetheless) and since we live in Brazil, a country where abort is NOT an option, if the worst were to happen, we would have to travel to a country where it was legal to do such procedure. (Just like me, she is 100% pro choice)
In 1 year she tried at least 4 types of contraceptives (pills and injections) and all of them gave her very bad reactions like sore breasts and loss of libido. (it came back 1 month or so after she stopped it)
Since I always wanted to do it, it was the perfect time to look into it.
Started researching and it stated that for man, the requirements were:
Male to be at least 25 years old OR have at least 2 children alive
So I thought it would be quite simple right? Right?!
Scheduled the first urologist the next monday, explained that I wanted to do a vasectomy and this is how the conversation went:
Doc: Is your wife ok with that?
Me: Im not married.
Doc: Hmm I see. And how many children do you have?
Me: None.
Doc: I see, well in that case im sorry but you cant do the procedure.
Me: Why? Im over 25 years old.
Doc: Oh but you see, that statement that you read is wrong. They actually meant AND and not OR. You have to have at least 2 children. And also be married cause your wife need to also sign the paperwork.
And we proceeded to have an argument about it. So from what I could gather, even though the goverment have no problem allowing males above 25 years old to do the procedure, the group of Urology here in Brazil (most of them) refuse to do so based on moral/ethical grounds.
Saying that the procedure is to help birth control on FAMILIES, so they just plain refuse to do it on anyone NOT married and with less than 2 children.
This really got me pissed! A country that DOESNT allow abortion also DOESNT allow me to do a freaking vasectomy?!?!? But again, the problem was doctors that just refuse to do it.
I wouldnt stop there. I scheduled another 2 urologist at this same week and the procedure got denied in both of them for the same reason. (it would vary though, one of them told me that I had to have at least 1 children...)
Then I just started googling nearby Urologists and direct calling them asking If they could do it, saying upfront I had no kids. After calling 10 or so different doctors I was able to find quite a few who just wouldnt give a crap about it and would do it just fine.
Scheduled with one of them for the next friday.
My girlfriend went with me and after I arrived there, the procedure was going to be done by the doctor and his assistant. The procedure lasted 40 to 45 minutes, and it was very quick and pain free (mostly).
I layed down on the table and he gave a few shots of anestesic directly in my scrotum. I only felt the first needle then it all went numb. I just browsed the web on my phone while he was doing both ends. I talked to him beforehand and he explained he was going use the most common method around here which is just doing a small cut, getting the vas deferens (the tube where your sperm passes through), cutting and closing both ends.
I only felt a slight pressure when he was pulling both of the tubes which felt disconfortable but it was only for a few seconds and very mild.
When the doctor finished and stitched all up, the assistant cleaned it all up and protected everything so I could go home. I got the instructions on what anti inflammatory (and other meds) to take for the next week and that was it.
My girlfriend was able to come into the room, and lol at the face she had when she saw me butt naked with a young female assistant rubbing and cleaning my scrotum (which was 3x the normal size due to the procedure)
I payed U$300 for the procedure and was fully reimbursed next month by my work's health insurance.
Doctor recommended that I waited at least 5 days to resume sexual activity but libido is a bitch. We didnt had sex this day but we did other things and while I was afraid that it would hurt to ejacule, it didnt.
Third day I was having sex normally (still donig the method of pulling it out) and after 2 weeks I did the lab exam and got the result: azoospermia (semen contained no sperm)
But I was still worried because reading online, theres a small chance that you will feel some kind of soreness on the scrotum, possible forever. (from the vas deferens being rigid from all the sperm thats not passing anymore or something along those lines)
You can read more about it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome
Those cases are rare but one those, the only solution is to perform a reversal.
In my case I felt a little sore in the first months (which is normal and expected) after having sex (depending how rough it was) but after the 3rd or 4th month I was 100% pain free even after a night of very rough sex.
The surgery was done last April, so its well over an year and it was one of the best thing I did and wanted to share :)
And NO! Vasectomy doest make you stop ejaculating neither does it change the volume on your semen. (that you would notice) The only difference is that now your semen is 100% free of sperm (which is usually 2 to 5% of your total semen volume)
You can read more about it here:
https://vasectomy-information.com/ejaculation-after-vasectomy/
TL;TR Tried to do vasectomy without having any children. It was more work than antecipated but I was finally able to do it. It was great!
How does america and other country compare to this kind of requirements (need to have children, being married etc)
And if anyone have any question regarding anything related to the procedure, just ask on this thread and I will help out the best I can.
I like children and growing up with younger cousins I always had a good relationship with them, but I just never had that desire to be a father, or to have that responsability that is required to properly raise a children.
My Girlfriend has the same mindset. Shes 30 years old and we've been together for the past 7 years.
She has a dog and I have two (I rescued both of them from the streets when they were less than 1y old). I really love them (they are currently sleeping with me in my bed while I type this)
And I know, I know... you cant even begin to compare dogs to children. The responsability and work to raise kids doesnt even come close and I do agree. But this is just to say that while I like having dogs and taking care of them, I have 0 interest in having a child.
I was interested in doing a vasectomy for a very long time but never really researched how it was done, where to go to do it, and what were the requirements. I just knew someday I sure af would be doing it.
For the first 4 years of my relationship I only used the Coitus interruptus method (Pull out method) as the only method of contraception with my girlfriend and would only ejaculate inside her when she was on her period. (We never had any problem having sex while she was on those days... shower then bam, ready to go!)
But even so, it was still a risk (a very small one but a risk nonetheless) and since we live in Brazil, a country where abort is NOT an option, if the worst were to happen, we would have to travel to a country where it was legal to do such procedure. (Just like me, she is 100% pro choice)
In 1 year she tried at least 4 types of contraceptives (pills and injections) and all of them gave her very bad reactions like sore breasts and loss of libido. (it came back 1 month or so after she stopped it)
Since I always wanted to do it, it was the perfect time to look into it.
Started researching and it stated that for man, the requirements were:
Male to be at least 25 years old OR have at least 2 children alive
So I thought it would be quite simple right? Right?!
Scheduled the first urologist the next monday, explained that I wanted to do a vasectomy and this is how the conversation went:
Doc: Is your wife ok with that?
Me: Im not married.
Doc: Hmm I see. And how many children do you have?
Me: None.
Doc: I see, well in that case im sorry but you cant do the procedure.
Me: Why? Im over 25 years old.
Doc: Oh but you see, that statement that you read is wrong. They actually meant AND and not OR. You have to have at least 2 children. And also be married cause your wife need to also sign the paperwork.
And we proceeded to have an argument about it. So from what I could gather, even though the goverment have no problem allowing males above 25 years old to do the procedure, the group of Urology here in Brazil (most of them) refuse to do so based on moral/ethical grounds.
Saying that the procedure is to help birth control on FAMILIES, so they just plain refuse to do it on anyone NOT married and with less than 2 children.
This really got me pissed! A country that DOESNT allow abortion also DOESNT allow me to do a freaking vasectomy?!?!? But again, the problem was doctors that just refuse to do it.
I wouldnt stop there. I scheduled another 2 urologist at this same week and the procedure got denied in both of them for the same reason. (it would vary though, one of them told me that I had to have at least 1 children...)
Then I just started googling nearby Urologists and direct calling them asking If they could do it, saying upfront I had no kids. After calling 10 or so different doctors I was able to find quite a few who just wouldnt give a crap about it and would do it just fine.
Scheduled with one of them for the next friday.
My girlfriend went with me and after I arrived there, the procedure was going to be done by the doctor and his assistant. The procedure lasted 40 to 45 minutes, and it was very quick and pain free (mostly).
I layed down on the table and he gave a few shots of anestesic directly in my scrotum. I only felt the first needle then it all went numb. I just browsed the web on my phone while he was doing both ends. I talked to him beforehand and he explained he was going use the most common method around here which is just doing a small cut, getting the vas deferens (the tube where your sperm passes through), cutting and closing both ends.
I only felt a slight pressure when he was pulling both of the tubes which felt disconfortable but it was only for a few seconds and very mild.
When the doctor finished and stitched all up, the assistant cleaned it all up and protected everything so I could go home. I got the instructions on what anti inflammatory (and other meds) to take for the next week and that was it.
My girlfriend was able to come into the room, and lol at the face she had when she saw me butt naked with a young female assistant rubbing and cleaning my scrotum (which was 3x the normal size due to the procedure)
I payed U$300 for the procedure and was fully reimbursed next month by my work's health insurance.
Doctor recommended that I waited at least 5 days to resume sexual activity but libido is a bitch. We didnt had sex this day but we did other things and while I was afraid that it would hurt to ejacule, it didnt.
Third day I was having sex normally (still donig the method of pulling it out) and after 2 weeks I did the lab exam and got the result: azoospermia (semen contained no sperm)
But I was still worried because reading online, theres a small chance that you will feel some kind of soreness on the scrotum, possible forever. (from the vas deferens being rigid from all the sperm thats not passing anymore or something along those lines)
You can read more about it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-vasectomy_pain_syndrome
Those cases are rare but one those, the only solution is to perform a reversal.
In my case I felt a little sore in the first months (which is normal and expected) after having sex (depending how rough it was) but after the 3rd or 4th month I was 100% pain free even after a night of very rough sex.
The surgery was done last April, so its well over an year and it was one of the best thing I did and wanted to share :)
And NO! Vasectomy doest make you stop ejaculating neither does it change the volume on your semen. (that you would notice) The only difference is that now your semen is 100% free of sperm (which is usually 2 to 5% of your total semen volume)
You can read more about it here:
https://vasectomy-information.com/ejaculation-after-vasectomy/
TL;TR Tried to do vasectomy without having any children. It was more work than antecipated but I was finally able to do it. It was great!
How does america and other country compare to this kind of requirements (need to have children, being married etc)
And if anyone have any question regarding anything related to the procedure, just ask on this thread and I will help out the best I can.
