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THOR: Ragnarok |OT| Spoiler thread

GamerJM

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Will The Thrill said:
Mannnnn, was super bummed by the people in my theater, which was still super packed this weekend. They barely laughed at anything :/ It got better overall in the second half but I felt like I couldn't laugh at all at most of the movie which is a terrible feeling. Thought the movie overall was pretty good! Marvel certainly has a quality to all of their movies now that's pretty impressive in all aspects, makes it hard to go back to pre-phase 3 films tbh.

Just thinking back off the top of my head, the scene with Thor rolling around in the chair was hilarious. But sadly no one laughed :/ Lots of great comedy ruined by my theater ugh. Honestly despite this probably being the funniest overall marvel movie, this was the most quiet I've ever heard a theater be at a marvel movie and I've seen 90% of them all in theater. Just sucks cause this movie was way better than anyone would have thought three years ago!
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Heh, I went today, the theater was packed, and there were hardly any laughs as well. Were we in the same theater lol?

I actually didn't think it was that funny tho (though there still probably should have been more laughs). I liked it but I'm not really seeing the greatness, even though I'm typically an MCU stan. The villains still didn't really do it for me and I can't really bring myself to care much about Thor as a character, he's just kind of a nothing in terms of charisma and appeal to me. Everything about the movie that felt like Planet Hulk was pretty great though.
 

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Just came out of the theater. It was pretty good and better than guardians 2. Felt a bit inconsequential tbh. The action was fantastic seeing Thor pretty much being Raiden at the end.
 
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The biggest laugh for me was probably when Banner painfully lands on the Rainbow bridge, the fact that camera lingers on his injuries and pain, and than goes back to focusing on the wolf
 
jph139

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A lot of the "death of Asgard, death of his friends, death of Odin" felt inconsequential. I think because from the directorial point of view they WERE inconsequential. Like, Waititi definitely didn't give a shit about the stuff that predates him, so he picked what he liked and dumped the rest. Which is fine and all, letting the director make the movie they want to make is the only reason Ragnarok worked. But it definitely made things feel hollow when they tried to use the binning for emotional beats.
 
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Finally saw this. Loved it. Really creative, entertaining, good action, very funny. Overall I can't remember enjoying a movie so much in a long time.

City on trash planet was incredible, haven't seen something so visually interesting since Fifth Element. Jeff Goldblum in full on Tim and Eric mode was hilarious
 
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jph139 said:
A lot of the "death of Asgard, death of his friends, death of Odin" felt inconsequential. I think because from the directorial point of view they WERE inconsequential. Like, Waititi definitely didn't give a shit about the stuff that predates him, so he picked what he liked and dumped the rest. Which is fine and all, letting the director make the movie they want to make is the only reason Ragnarok worked. But it definitely made things feel hollow when they tried to use the binning for emotional beats.
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I'm really not sure how they would give that proper emotional weight when what came before was so turgid.
 
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I enjoyed the hectic first half, but from there on it was downhill with the usual MCU cheese, talking Hulk, the worst "drunk" acting ever seen on film, boring fights (especially the Thor Naruto moments, they were all anticipation and no delivery) and a villain that crumbled to being stupid and spouting one liners. Also her "powers" of creating spikes of varying size and speed was stupid.

Also why was Banner suddenly more stupid than Thor?
 
GatsGatsby

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Finally saw it yesterday. There was only 3 other people in my theater but I caught the first showing and I'm in a small city so its not that surprising this late in a release.

I loved this film and pretty much managed to go in blind for the most part which is unusual for me. Goldblum was so great in his role I hope we see him in other films. Cate looked phenomenal and appeard to be having fun with the role. I never felt like the move dragged its probably my favorite the first Avengers film. Had some good eye candy shots too that the fangirl in me very much appreciated.

Also reading these threads I hear people talk about their theaters with reclining seats and assigned seating. My Regal cinema did their upgrade and yeah having those seats is amazing.
 
Pai Pai Master

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wait what's wrong with Hulk talking? Thor Naruto? What?

Also Hela's power isn't spikes, she is able to conjure weapons of all sorts out of thin air. She made an axe for Skurge.
 
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guek said:
I wish he had actually done something with that axe though
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Well at least he didn't use it to murder someone. I think that helped at least give some weight to his redemption, that he never used the axe and threw it away before declaring "For Asgard."

I still wish they saved that payoff for later and gave him more of a presence first. It felt wasted, when a big part of his comics moment was him saying goodbye to Balder as well.

Would have preferred if the Warriors Three were left alive so they could blame Skurge for what went down, and shame him as a turncoat. Then he could have freed them at the end and they could have fought and died together.
 
Auros01

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I think Ragnarok will end up being one of the more re-watchable MCU movies (right behind Winter Soldier).

The chemistry of the cast in this movie just works all-around which is what, in my opinion, carries the movie.
 
StallionDan

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Einchy said:
Hulk can now talk.
Asgard is destroyed
Odin is dead, Thor is the king
Thor gets the Odin force
Thor loses an eye
Mjolnir is destroyed

It's one of the most consequential Marvel movies so far.
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Plus they made it clear Jane Foster is not coming back or needs be heard about ever again. This is most important.
 
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Will The Thrill said:
Mannnnn, was super bummed by the people in my theater, which was still super packed this weekend. They barely laughed at anything :/ It got better overall in the second half but I felt like I couldn't laugh at all at most of the movie which is a terrible feeling. Thought the movie overall was pretty good! Marvel certainly has a quality to all of their movies now that's pretty impressive in all aspects, makes it hard to go back to pre-phase 3 films tbh.

Just thinking back off the top of my head, the scene with Thor rolling around in the chair was hilarious. But sadly no one laughed :/ Lots of great comedy ruined by my theater ugh. Honestly despite this probably being the funniest overall marvel movie, this was the most quiet I've ever heard a theater be at a marvel movie and I've seen 90% of them all in theater. Just sucks cause this movie was way better than anyone would have thought three years ago!
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The first two times I saw it, the crowd was roaring with laughter. The third crowd didn't laugh much at all besides one dude. I feed off the energy of the crowd so I know how disappointing a boring crowd can be.
 
Dirtyshubb

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Finally got round to seeing it and absolutely loved it.

Too many great moments to mention but I think me and the wife's favourite part was:

"one time loki turned into a snake, and he knows I love snakes, so I go to pick him up and he goes 'Werrr it's me' and stabs me. We were 8 at the time"

Absolutely killed us.
 
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While I can understand Zevi being upset, it was for the best. I love the Warriors Three, and they can always return, even if through recasting, but the impact of seeing them die so brutally and nonchalantly wasn't lost in me.
 
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Astartes said:
Forgot to add it felt inconsequential with the deaths of Thors pals and than Karl Urban cracking a joke after.
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It wasn't a joke from the character's perspective, he was literally mopping the floor when she arrived, thus his plea of "I'm just a janitor". It's played pretty straight. He wasn't in it for glory before (as is made clear when we first meet him) and even less so now that he got demoted, so he was just looking to keep his head. Now, whether audiences found that amusing or not is another matter.
 

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Astartes said:
Just came out of the theater. It was pretty good and better than guardians 2. Felt a bit inconsequential tbh. The action was fantastic seeing Thor pretty much being Raiden at the end.
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I don't get this complaint

Asgard was destroyed, Odin died, introduced/killed off Hela, Loki stole the tesseract finally, introduced Valkyrie etc.

And yeah I loved Thor going Raiden at the end, about time.
 

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Psychoward said:
I don't get this complaint

Asgard was destroyed, Odin died, introduced/killed off Hela, Loki stole the tesseract finally, introduced Valkyrie etc.

And yeah I loved Thor going Raiden at the end, about time.
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Death only matters when the people you kill get at least 30-45 minutes of screen time with dialogue. Also, they need an interview on a late night talk show.
 
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Psychoward said:
I don't get this complaint

Asgard was destroyed, Odin died, introduced/killed off Hela, Loki stole the tesseract finally, introduced Valkyrie etc.

And yeah I loved Thor going Raiden at the end, about time.
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The dramatic importance of Asgard's destruction was somewhat undercut by Rockman's zingers, as well as Thor's assertion that it's the people of Asgard that matter. The people of Asgard all got away.

Odin was literally still there with new sagely wisdom and everything after his death.

Hela was introduced as the main villain of a Marvel superhero movie and then she died in the very same movie. This puts her on the same level of importance as Ronan the Accuser, whose name I had to Google.

The tesseract is one of a number of interchangeable bog standard glowing doomsday things. It's even part of a matching set. It only exists to propel the plot forward to a point where most of a city gets destroyed and then the good guys triumph. In the MCU this has happened several times before without any tesseracts, and it will happen many more times in the future without any tesseracts.

Valkyrie had a good run in Thor: Umlaüt, but I worry about her future in the MCU. The catharsis of her character arc revolved around a now dead Hela. Her admittedly very good combat prowess overlaps unfavorably with her fellow Revengers. Valkyrie can punch people real good. Hulk can punch people better than anyone. Thor can now punch people better than the Hulk, and you've been thunderstruck.
 
Fezan

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Just Came out of theater watching it. It was ok nothing special. In the end, movie felt like an episode of infinity war instead of standing on its own. The most disappointing thing was how it felt inconsequential nothing happened in this movie at the end. Asgard blowing up felt nothing because we have no attachment to it Also I have given up on Marvel to produce any good fights scene. Russo brothers are now only hope

Overall 6/10
 
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Tunahead said:
The dramatic importance of Asgard's destruction was somewhat undercut by Rockman's zingers, as well as Thor's assertion that it's the people of Asgard that matter. The people of Asgard all got away.
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What? This was the whole point. In no way was it an undercut to the seriousness. And not everyone got away.
 
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xxracerxx said:
What? This was the whole point. In no way was it an undercut to the seriousness. And not everyone got away.
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The thing is we as the audience never cared about Asgard. Heck, it didn't even felt like realm more like a castle from LOTR. Sakaar had the more visual identity and thought put into it. Blowing up Asgard was same as blowing up any random building in Avengers
 
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Shugga said:
Don't worry they gonna make her squirrel girl
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NO we already have our Squirrel Girl and SHE'S PERFECT SHUTUP

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Tunahead said:
The dramatic importance of Asgard's destruction was somewhat undercut by Rockman's zingers, as well as Thor's assertion that it's the people of Asgard that matter. The people of Asgard all got away.
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Not everyone got away. Korg made a joke at the end but they also had an entire scene seriously reflecting on Asgard's destruction. The people being flung adrift through space without a home is pretty consequential. You should try paying more attention to movies.
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Odin was literally still there with new sagely wisdom and everything after his death.
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Also not true. Odin was not around to dispense wisdom after his death. Thor had two visions of his father, both requiring near death experiences. By your logic, Obi-Wan dying in Star Wars is completely inconsequential.

Tunahead said:
Hela was introduced as the main villain of a Marvel superhero movie and then she died in the very same movie. This puts her on the same level of importance as Ronan the Accuser, whose name I had to Google.
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Villains die in the overwhelmingly vast majority of movies in which they are introduced. wtf are you smoking.

Tunahead said:
The tesseract is one of a number of interchangeable bog standard glowing doomsday things. It's even part of a matching set. It only exists to propel the plot forward to a point where most of a city gets destroyed and then the good guys triumph. In the MCU this has happened several times before without any tesseracts, and it will happen many more times in the future without any tesseracts.
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Good thing this movie was not about the tesseract or else you might have an actual point instead of a griping over two seconds of foreshadowing for future movies. Oh no! They briefly mentioned something that will show up in another movie! How utterly egregious!

Tunahead said:
Valkyrie had a good run in Thor: Umlaüt, but I worry about her future in the MCU. The catharsis of her character arc revolved around a now dead Hela. Her admittedly very good combat prowess overlaps unfavorably with her fellow Revengers. Valkyrie can punch people real good. Hulk can punch people better than anyone. Thor can now punch people better than the Hulk, and you've been thunderstruck.
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Her combat prowess has nothing to do with her actual arc, and the Revengers were disbanded at the end of the movie. That you don't know where they'll go with her story moving forward is a good indication that Ragnarok works as a self contained story since it's the death of a previous era and the very beginning of a new one for Asgard.
 
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