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Dr Doom

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Oct 25, 2017
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No wonder South Park makes fun
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Kintaro

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned, but this game was not created during the internet age or even the 90s. I played this back in the 80s and it was called "cherry" to us, although I'm sure it went by many other names. We were about 99% Mexican or Mexican-Americans in my neighborhood btw. It definitely wasn't a racist thing either. This and the white power symbol as far as I can tell are slightly different. The white power symbol should have the fingers wide apart from each other in order to form a W, this one the fingers are not necessarily apart and usually kind of curved as well.


Edit: I guess that link explains the game pretty good, though I don't it started in Ohio, lol. It wouldn't travel that fast to the L.A. area before the internet.
 

Remember

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Oct 29, 2017
2,484
Chicago, IL United States
Thread summary:

Circle with fingers pointing up - Is apparently now an alt right thing

Circle with fingers pointing down - Circle game

Also, apparently the alt right can just take whatever cool shit they want and make it theirs, like said image:

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Thus ruining the fun and people are just cool with this constantly happening.

Did I sum everything up here?
 

Deleted member 48897

User requested account closure
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Oct 22, 2018
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TIL people take a lot of personal pride in their punch games. I'm not sure this is more or less inane than MMA forum threads
 

nded

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Nov 14, 2017
10,639
Wouldn't be the first time a bunch of uninventive racists ruined a previously benign symbol for everyone.
 

Euron

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Oct 27, 2017
2,773
Nah your first case isn't always true. There are times when it's been used below the waist with White Supremacists as well. The only true way to tell is context. If they're wearing MAGA hat it's proooobably racist.
This is also very true. Granted any hand motion whatsoever in a MAGA hat becomes racist. A simple high five could be a gesture of white supremacy if the person who's doing it is Richard Spencer. But context will always be the difference-maker and I think that the context in the Amazon posting is fine unless it's used by someone who decides to make it for another purpose.
 

HeySeuss

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Oct 25, 2017
8,876
Ohio
I don't know if anyone has mentioned, but this game was not created during the internet age or even the 90s. I played this back in the 80s and it was called "cherry" to us, although I'm sure it went by many other names. We were about 99% Mexican or Mexican-Americans in my neighborhood btw. It definitely wasn't a racist thing either. This and the white power symbol as far as I can tell are slightly different. The white power symbol should have the fingers wide apart from each other in order to form a W, this one the fingers are not necessarily apart and usually kind of curved as well.


Edit: I guess that link explains the game pretty good, though I don't it started in Ohio, lol. It wouldn't travel that fast to the L.A. area before the internet.
For what it's worth, I'm 42 and played this when I was in middle school and I'm from Ohio.
 

III-V

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Oct 25, 2017
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2 different things here.

But yes, OK hand symbol has been co-opted by racists in recent years.

And it is even slightly different than the old OK. It's WP for white power
 

Kintaro

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Oct 27, 2017
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For what it's worth, I'm 42 and played this when I was in middle school and I'm from Ohio.
Yeah I'm 42 as well from Los Angeles and played it here as well. I wasn't saying it wasn't played in Ohio, but that I doubt that it originated there in the 80s. These things took time to travel back in those days, I played this in Elementary (early to mid 80s) as well as Junio High (middle school).
 

HeySeuss

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
8,876
Ohio
Yeah I'm 42 as well from Los Angeles and played it here as well. I wasn't saying it wasn't played in Ohio, but that I doubt that it originated there in the 80s. These things took time to travel back in those days, I played this in Elementary (early to mid 80s) as well as Junio High (middle school).
Oh yeah I wasn't implying we invented it. No clue how it started though. Maybe some movie or something or maybe one of those things that's been around literally forever and you go to your goofy uncle's house and he wails on you and you show your friends the next day or something who knows lol
 

Kintaro

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Oct 27, 2017
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Oh yeah I wasn't implying we invented it. No clue how it started though. Maybe some movie or something or maybe one of those things that's been around literally forever and you go to your goofy uncle's house and he wails on you and you show your friends the next day or something who knows lol
What did you guys call it? We called it cherry over by my neighborhood.

 

Driggonny

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Oct 26, 2017
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Never heard of the circle game. I think I'm, ironically, too young to have seen it.

I don't think okay symbols as a whole are racist now. Context matters. It's pretty obvious when it's being done as alt-right signaling, it is not *innately* racist.
 

Burrman

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've seen kids do the punching thing when I picked up my son from school. That shits been going on since I was a kid. I've only heard of nazis doing that symbol a few months ago for the first time. I thought the symbol was slightly different though. We can't just stop going things because nazis want to claim them. I remember at the old place people were saying it's racist to have an undercut now.... Now Pepe is stolen.

The only thing I can see not ever being ok to use is Hitler's stache. That's one style that will be forbidden forever. lol
 

Doomsayer

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Oct 25, 2017
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TIL people take a lot of personal pride in their punch games. I'm not sure this is more or less inane than MMA forum threads

Or just stop giving these racist idiots everything they want.

"Welp, looks like the alt-right took over *insert meme here* better let them have it!" Fuck off with that soft shit, don't let them take things.
 

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I think I know why I'm so confused by this thread now: it strikes me as weird to want to expend so much effort defend a game that exists as an excuse to punch your friends when you don't need any excuse to punch a Nazi
 

Einchy

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Oct 25, 2017
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That's why they chose it, so it makes people look silly when they question it.

Yet look at all the supremacists in their pictures, that's how they use it
They chose it because you need a lot of context to explain to someone why the OK sign, in specific contexts, are a white supremacy symbol. Just out right saying this: "If you hold up, fingers pointing up, that's white power" is exactly what the alt-right wants you to do because you're just outright saying the ok symbol is a white power symbol without any context, which IS silly. Doing the ok symbol isn't a white supremacy symbol, doing it in specific scenarios and contexts is.
 

Kurdel

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Nov 7, 2017
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They chose it because you need a lot of context to explain to someone why the OK sign, in specific contexts, are a white supremacy symbol. Just out right saying this: "If you hold up, fingers pointing up, that's white power" is exactly what the alt-right wants you to do because you're just outright saying the ok symbol is a white power symbol without any context, which IS silly. Doing the ok symbol isn't a white supremacy symbol, doing it in specific scenarios and contexts is.

Yeah, I really hate our current timeline.
 

PoppaBK

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Oct 27, 2017
2,165
Thread summary:

Circle with fingers pointing up - Is apparently now an alt right thing

Circle with fingers pointing down - Circle game

Also, apparently the alt right can just take whatever cool shit they want and make it theirs, like said image:

nedroid-i-made-this-horizontal-e1460073216688.png


Thus ruining the fun and people are just cool with this constantly happening.

Did I sum everything up here?
Wait what?
The fingers pointing up is the 'OK' symbol.
Fingers pointing down is the circle game.
Both have been co-opted by the trolls to become alt-right symbols.
I made a thread about this not so long ago where people were saying that using the 'OK' symbol was fine, now a week later it seems that it is back to being a recognized as a hate symbol.
 

Kurdel

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Nov 7, 2017
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Someone asked me why James Gunn got fired and I had to give them a whole dissertation so they actually understood.

It's nuts.

We all take for granted this 24h news/culture slop feed we ingest here and on Twitter, but then explaining it to people who just live like normal people it is exhausting.

I t's become so convoluted in the last few years, and I don't see it geting any better.

I miss the days when creationists and Bush were the bane of my existance online.
 

Remember

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Oct 29, 2017
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Chicago, IL United States
Wait what?
The fingers pointing up is the 'OK' symbol.
Fingers pointing down is the circle game.
Both have been co-opted by the trolls to become alt-right symbols.
I made a thread about this not so long ago where people were saying that using the 'OK' symbol was fine, now a week later it seems that it is back to being a recognized as a hate symbol.

Can you link me to an article or instance of the fingers specifically pointing down being co-opted by trolls to be an alt-right symbol? So far I've only seen evidence of fingers up being such a thing.
 

PoppaBK

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Oct 27, 2017
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Can you link me to an article or instance of the fingers specifically pointing down being co-opted by trolls to be an alt-right symbol? So far I've only seen evidence of fingers up being such a thing.
It was in the high school nazi salute photo. The guy at the front was doing the fingers pointing down version while everyone was doing their sieg heil salutes.
 

Remember

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Oct 29, 2017
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Chicago, IL United States
It was in the high school nazi salute photo. The guy at the front was doing the fingers pointing down version while everyone was doing their sieg heil salutes.

Other than that image? I'm saying I saw multiple images of the up version being used by trolls/alt right but only saw that one pic of it being used in the downward point. If it was just that picture, then I'm not rollin' and I'm still going to call it the circle game and not let it be ruined by one jackass.
 

Kintaro

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Oct 27, 2017
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It was in the high school nazi salute photo. The guy at the front was doing the fingers pointing down version while everyone was doing their sieg heil salutes.
I'm pretty sure that student in the photo was doing the circle game symbol and not the white power, people seem to have twisted that because all the other racist a holes.
 

mattiewheels

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm guessing it might be a verifiable thing he's done with his hands all his life when he speaks, but god DAMN does he do this enough that it starts to look like a nod to a certain type of person.

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TheLucasLite

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Aug 27, 2018
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Fascists specifically choose inane or innocent symbols like this with the express intent to gaslight leftists and make them paranoid, that way when they point out the symbol's use among fascists, all the normies and centrists come out of the woodwork to call leftists crazy/oversensitive/ridiculous/etc.
 

Twig

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yes, if the question is unanswered.

Also, I just wanna add, there's actual racist shit on Amazon. This fucking pin which ain't even racist is on the lowest of tiers, c'mon now.
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I'm kinda convinced this is a troll thread cause, yeah, there are much easier targets to call out...
 

Baji Boxer

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yep. It was this before 4chan decided to make it an alt right joke meme and then people on the alt right were too dumb to get the "joke" part so now it's an alt right meme.
It was still used as a white supremecist hand signal prior to the 4chan thing (or at least a variation), but not nearly as widely propagated. I think the idea of it being a joke is questionable in the first place. I've seen the thread on 4chan where this was cooked up. It's not really a prank though when a board with lots of white supremecists decides to use a specific hand signal. Like... what's the "joke"? White supremecists using the hand signal to "prank" liberals into thinking they're making a white supremecist hand signal?