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Banderdash

Chicken Chaser
Member
Nov 16, 2017
2,466
Australia
I wouldn't mind a ME trilogy remaster as a launch title for next gen.

All 3, and DLC, in one package... completely remade.
One engine, character creator imports that work, hair models that don't look like shit, updated mo-cap, updated V-O, Hanar and Elcor that move, moving NPCs,
ME2 shooting across all 3 games, pretty as a picture, and ME3s Normandy without all those frigging cables lying around my damn ship!




I mean, I'm already in to next gen... but there'd be a massive Day 1 uptake.
 

SageShinigami

Member
Oct 27, 2017
30,472
EA's had a longstanding policy of no remasters. I dig it, as it increases the likelihood of it being something new.
 

Barnak

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,058
Canada
I would gladly pay full price for a ME remaster, even though I already played the trilogy in high resolution on PC.
Just having the whole package together with all story and cosmetic DLCs + HD textures + some necessary polishing done(especially with ME3) would be worth it.

I wouldn't mind a ME trilogy remaster as a launch title for next gen.

All 3, and DLC, in one package... completely remade.
One engine, character creator imports that work, hair models that don't look like shit, updated mo-cap, updated V-O, Hanar and Elcor that move, moving NPCs,
ME2 shooting across all 3 games, pretty as a picture, and ME3s Normandy without all those frigging cables lying around my damn ship!




I mean, I'm already in to next gen... but there'd be a massive Day 1 uptake.

What? ME3 combat improved on ME2 on every way. I literally don't see how someone would prefer 2's combat to 3, unless it's simply about not liking to fight against Reapers & Cerberus.
 

Caldain

Member
Oct 27, 2017
40
New England
I feel like EA has no choice but to do a remaster. The Mass Effect name has been run through the muck lately. A remaster would go a long way to appease fans.

For their sake I hope Anthem does well but gimme DA 4 plz. Inquisition wasn't perfect but I played the crap out of it with several completionist playthroughs. I can't get enough of Thedas.
 

EatChildren

Wonder from Down Under
Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,029
The only RPGs that get remastered are seminal releases (final fantasy) or important franchises that get ports onto a variety of platforms (baldur's gate to iOS).

On top of that, EA doesn't do remasters.

Just let it go.

I personally don't want it. I've exhausted the trilogy. As much as I adore it, I'd only jump back in if there were major enhancements, and relative to PC. I don't care about 4K/HDR console build of a game I can play on PC that's already been so aggressively modded to hell and playable at 4K. I'm just trying to think what, if anything, EA/BioWare could cook up in the wake of Andromeda's failure that is a affordable low risk investment.

I think Mass Effect is in that tough position, wherein it absolutely has a rabid fanbase, but appealing to them and the mass market is going to be tough.
A trilogy port/remaster will appeal to the niche, but I'm not convinced the masses will care, enough to have an impact.
A side-story or smaller game will appeal to the core fans, but not enough to rope in the masses, continuing to leave the series in limbo.
A major entry is a high risk investment in the wake of Andromeda's failings, and do people want an Andromeda 2 or a Mass Effect 4?
And ultimately; has the ship on Mass Effect sailed as a whole? Are the mass market fans done with Shepard and the trilogy? Is there room to recapture the fever and excitement of the trilogy with a new audience? Or has that market clocked out?
 
Feb 3, 2018
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I personally don't want it. I've exhausted the trilogy. As much as I adore it, I'd only jump back in if there were major enhancements, and relative to PC. I don't care about 4K/HDR console build of a game I can play on PC that's already been so aggressively modded to hell and playable at 4K. I'm just trying to think what, if anything, EA/BioWare could cook up in the wake of Andromeda's failure that is a affordable low risk investment.

I think Mass Effect is in that tough position, wherein it absolutely has a rabid fanbase, but appealing to them and the mass market is going to be tough.
A trilogy port/remaster will appeal to the niche, but I'm not convinced the masses will care, enough to have an impact.
A side-story or smaller game will appeal to the core fans, but not enough to rope in the masses, continuing to leave the series in limbo.
A major entry is a high risk investment in the wake of Andromeda's failings, and do people want an Andromeda 2 or a Mass Effect 4?
And ultimately; has the ship on Mass Effect sailed as a whole? Are the mass market fans done with Shepard and the trilogy? Is there room to recapture the fever and excitement of the trilogy with a new audience? Or has that market clocked out?


I think Andromeda's story-line could be continued but for godssake get some decent writers on board because the dialogue in that game is awful, I liked the idea of a massive new galaxy to explore and a new frontier and would like to see them expand on it, it can still be salvaged.

There were some interesting plot points that was started but never expanded upon in Andromeda that I would like to see continue but with better writers this time around.

Mass Effect 4 would be harder to do especially if they make a game set after Mass Effect 3 they could do what they did with dragon age inquisition, were you have a website were you entered in what had happened in the previous games that was unique for you and continue on from there.

But question is what the hell would it be about ?
 

Enduin

You look 40
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,475
New York
But question is what the hell would it be about ?
Anything they want really. ME3 for all its issues sets up a ton of possibilities for the future of the Milky Way in the fallout of the Reaper war. Examining and drawing conclusions from how different races and factions would react and recover from a near total annihilation of the entire galaxy could lead to a lot of interesting dynamics and changes to the ME that we know. While the EC screws this up, they're going to have to pick any ending anyway so they can un-fix it if they want, and make it so the Mass Relay system was at least heavily damaged by the Crucible and basically cut off massive regions of space from one another isolating places for however long it took them to fix their relays and/or travel at much slower FTL speeds to re-establish connections. How would certain places react and change to being totally cut off from the rest of space for decades or more.

Plus ME lore already states like only 1% of the Milky Way was actually explored. None of the advanced races had any incentive to really advance FTL due to the Mass Relay system, making it so they only ventured out to those regions it connected them to. What other sentient species may have developed space travel without the aid of Reaper tech or the Mass Relay system. There could be all sorts of species as yet undiscovered out there.

Set the game some 50-100 years after ME3 and show us how the near cataclysmic events of the originally trilogy reshaped, for better or worse, the whole galaxy.
 

anexanhume

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,913
Maryland
I personally don't want it. I've exhausted the trilogy. As much as I adore it, I'd only jump back in if there were major enhancements, and relative to PC. I don't care about 4K/HDR console build of a game I can play on PC that's already been so aggressively modded to hell and playable at 4K. I'm just trying to think what, if anything, EA/BioWare could cook up in the wake of Andromeda's failure that is a affordable low risk investment.

I think Mass Effect is in that tough position, wherein it absolutely has a rabid fanbase, but appealing to them and the mass market is going to be tough.
A trilogy port/remaster will appeal to the niche, but I'm not convinced the masses will care, enough to have an impact.
A side-story or smaller game will appeal to the core fans, but not enough to rope in the masses, continuing to leave the series in limbo.
A major entry is a high risk investment in the wake of Andromeda's failings, and do people want an Andromeda 2 or a Mass Effect 4?
And ultimately; has the ship on Mass Effect sailed as a whole? Are the mass market fans done with Shepard and the trilogy? Is there room to recapture the fever and excitement of the trilogy with a new audience? Or has that market clocked out?
To continue, I think it has to be a Mass Effect without Mac Walters. I don't think BioWare has any appetite for that though.
 
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Detective

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,853
Really hope this game delivers. It looks amazing.
Am just not feeling it for some reason. Hope am wrong.
 

RoninStrife

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,002
If Sheppard can survive the start of ME2 then he can survive the end of ME3.

They should just surprise everyone and follow the indoctrination theory.

The way he words it has me worried. The way he's talking is the lead up to how every disappointing announcement starts. Hope for more ME though.
I agree, the end of ME 3, After everything that was lost to be there, everyone's sacrifices... Sheperd would not compromise the way its made out to be..
You're right.. maybe they should just go with indoctrination theory and continue with the series... but even if they dont.., lets just go with the fact he was spaced, dead and withered and brought back in ME2... sutely Sheperd is going to survive when he is breathing at the end.
Just ... give us, the fans.. what we deserve.., that is, Mass Effect 4.
 

Mezoly

Jimbo Replacement
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,401
You say that like it's a bad thing but I love the DA novels and honestly if they don't want to make single player games anymore than I'd still be happy just to have books continue the series going forward. Better than some GaaS shit or nothing.
I was just trying to temper expectations. I don't think it would be a bad thing if it was either of those.
 

HououinKyouma

The Wise Ones
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,366
it's canon, there's just some visual inconsistencies with the codex. torpedoes coming from the wrong place, no coolant wakes - always been bummed they never implemented those; would've looked super cool and unique* - and so on.

it's no worse than most other space battle scenes in the series - or most sci-fi, for that matter - when it comes to lore inconsistencies.

...

*here's a quote from the codex on those coolant wakes:



I really hope they decide to actually use them in the space battle cinematics if Mass Effect comes back. not holding my breath, tho—it'd probably be off-putting for some people.

The cinematics department didn't read the lore and put missiles in place of the mass accelerators everyone should have been using. By the time this was noticed it was too late to change it.
Verrrry interesting, I never caught that.
 

Bizzquik

Chicken Chaser
Member
Nov 5, 2017
1,506
PS4 Pro and Xbox One X patches for Inquisition incoming, me thinks.

The team that enhanced Andromeda in time for N7 day on the X will have moved over to Dragon Age's third title. The patches act as Bioware's statement to fans that both series are still relevant to them, too. ('Now please pre-order Anthem.')
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,694
On top of that, EA doesn't do remasters.

Just let it go.

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LegalEagleMike

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,454
PS4 Pro and Xbox One X patches for Inquisition incoming, me thinks.

The team that enhanced Andromeda in time for N7 day on the X will have moved over to Dragon Age's third title. The patches act as Bioware's statement to fans that both series are still relevant to them, too. ('Now please pre-order Anthem.')

And I will begrudgingly accept it.
 

John Harker

Knows things...
Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,357
Santa Destroy
I had friends on the previous dragon age project which was great, and now I don't and that makes me so sad because I'm in the dark.

Eh maybe I'll go ask around.

I'm in the camp that significantly loved Inquisition, one of the few cases where in my opinion EA meddling improved the final product
 

Deleted member 18400

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,585
God a new Dragon Age game would get me back on board with Bioware. Lately they are just giving me shit I don't think I want.

A Destiny clone? Meh, I guess.
 

SageShinigami

Member
Oct 27, 2017
30,472
I had friends on the previous dragon age project which was great, and now I don't and that makes me so sad because I'm in the dark.

Eh maybe I'll go ask around.

I'm in the camp that significantly loved Inquisition, one of the few cases where in my opinion EA meddling improved the final product

lol, I saw your name and was actually pretty hype for a second. Hope you learn something good, even if you don't share it. I just want DA4 to exist.
 

hassler

Banned
Nov 5, 2017
295
Inquisition wasn't perfect for sure, but I still loved it. I have a weak spot for AAA rpgs where you can create your own character and have a group of interesting followers. I'm sad, because there's nothing like it on the horizon right now. I'm not counting cyberpunk, Not hyped for that at all.

I need DA4.
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,508
Bandung Indonesia
Fuck, I don't even need remaster treatment, just give me the ability to play Mass Effect 1-2-3 in my PS4 and I'll bite. Heck if they tell me that I need to buy them individually with no DLC included and I have to buy them all over again, I'll bite them so hard regardless.

Mass Effect is so dear to me.

As is Dragon Age, actually. And it's the same. If they give me the ability to play Dragon Age Origins in my PS4 (and the sequel too, why not), I'll bite the opportunity so goddamn hard.
 

Dandy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,459
I know I may regret this... but I am excited.

Is it wrong that I want Dragon Age more than Anthem?
Not at all. I love Bioware games, and not once have I wanted a multiplayer Destiny-like from them. The only interest I have in Anthem, is that it is being made by Bioware. If it weren't, I wouldn't even bat an eye at it.
 

Asbsand

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
9,901
Denmark
Mass Effect is so dear to me.
Mass Effect is in fact so dear to me that I kind of don't want BioWare in their current state to work on it ever again. Casey Hudson might've been the vision holder but he was not really the executor of it. He's missing the writers that created the so-called "Magic" that the first two games had which the third game succesfully piggybacked on before people realized it was a crashing ship and Andromeda was their attempt to create Mass Effect with new blood in a much more EA-core management and it was just missing something entirely even beyond the technical issues. It's the art designers, the writers, and the musicians. The people that created the aesthetic brilliance of Mass Effect are mostly all gone now.
 
Oct 27, 2017
11,508
Bandung Indonesia
Mass Effect is in fact so dear to me that I kind of don't want BioWare in their current state to work on it ever again. Casey Hudson might've been the vision holder but he was not really the executor of it. He's missing the writers that created the so-called "Magic" that the first two games had which the third game succesfully piggybacked on before people realized it was a crashing ship and Andromeda was their attempt to create Mass Effect with new blood in a much more EA-core management and it was just missing something entirely even beyond the technical issues. It's the art designers, the writers, and the musicians. The people that created the aesthetic brilliance of Mass Effect are mostly all gone now.

Yeah but to be able to play ME 1-3 in my ps4 is like, a dream scenario to me. My life would be consumed by it, haha.
 

Asbsand

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
9,901
Denmark
Yeah but to be able to play ME 1-3 in my ps4 is like, a dream scenario to me. My life would be consumed by it, haha.
It would be nice, especially with QoL improvements like updating Mass Effect 1 with a director's cut mix of the soundtrack. Playing through that game, though it has the charm of being nostalgic there are many, many places where BioWare inserted Jack Wall and the other musician's scores in the wrong moments and even Jack Wall said "That is not what I intended when I wrote that song!" in an interview. (Think the James Bond music jingle when you complete the Towers of Hanoi puzzle on Noveria or Tali's rescue washing out the voice acitng)

And just an overall attempt to slightly rework all 3 games to have a more consistent look and feel would make it worth it to me. They all run on Unreal 3 as a base.
 

John Harker

Knows things...
Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,357
Santa Destroy
I talked about it a bit years ago, how the game was originally scoped closer to DA2, but the internal push was to make it open world. So the net product is a bit of a hybrid, still very character driven/focused yet more player agency in progression and larger areas to explore at your pace. The whole product just feels bigger as a result, more of a journey than a bottle episode.