I wasn't intending to derail the discussion with my interest in sales numbers and agree that the growth is a good sign for Xbox and the industry.
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Xbox One X "Performing Phenomenally" says NPD
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I wasn't intending to derail the discussion with my interest in sales numbers and agree that the growth is a good sign for Xbox and the industry.
Really it wasn't to make something like "this team is bigger than that team" was to show that... there are certain market (very few) where the summa is like the 50% of the worldwide market ..if Ms could go back at the 360 era where in those countries I listed they where market leader by large margin (clearly not implying that PlayStation sell zero there) the game would be very very close....sure the things are lot more complicated than just this
Cool then. I understand your point, if the sales were abysmal, even a 100% growth would mean nothing but obviously this isnt the case here. Definitely a good sign and it bodes well with what I see here in resetera, a lot of people that have ignored one so far are starting to show in interest in X for the ability to play the best console version of big AAA titles like RDR2.
I'm just answering his post. Because his deduction is wrong.
Both are making money. A lot.
I think will stay the same next gen.
PlayStation will sell more units, but Xbox will make a lot of money with their loyal core fans.
I have no idea how your response relates to what you quoted?
People like horse races and supporting their team, it is part of being human. So, I dont think it is weird, though it can be annoying when peeps get angry. And it is good to remind people these things are run by corporations controlled by the global ruling elites who dont give two fucks about you, so your attachment should be paper thin.
If we were all professional analysts, then yeah, emotionally detached discussion would make sense, but we arent.
I know we don't line to stay on topic when it comes to positive news but I'm really happy to see this article. There's a good chance this generation -minus handhelds- will be bigger than the previous generation. That's a great feeling!
Your post, in particular your thoughts about last generation... I think the EU and ROTW played a factor in keeping the PS platform relevant even when it was struggling.
Idk. $499 or even $599 is fine for a premium product, but probably a big ask for mass maket.
I have a feeling they r going for 499 this time with ps5 and if sales stale they will drop price soon after .even the leak said sony is looking at 499 price point . I m sure success of x has given them a bit of confidence.
Well then you completely misunderstood my post and my point. My point is that all three consoles were relevant last generation, so this idea of only having winners and losers is ridiculous.
I heard they were getting out of the gaming business so it's not like it matters at this point.
Does this happen on smartphone forums, like iPhone vs. Android?
To people with common sense it is, but have you read through this thread? Some of the salty posts are just terrible and Matt's comments are relevant based on how much negativity to this news is pouring out of some people even though it has nothing to do with Sony/Nintendo.
Oh my god yes. Even worse in many cases. At least here doesn't tolerate calling people who play on Xbox morons or mentally challenged.
Yea it's a bit weird why people are upset . We are enthusiast gamers and when a strong console does great even competition takes notice and plays their hand accordingly which means everyone wins for us enthusiasts.
I m happy x is doing great . Hopefully it is outselling pro. As a PS fan I want Sony to rethink their stance for ps5 pro if that makes any sense and not be conservative
The real stuff goes down on the athletic shoe forums and twitter. No joke. I thought console war nonsense was the worst, but then I started following our Athletic wear analyst and my lord.
Microsoft have pushed hard to turn the Xbox One around. It's been a real uphill battle, but I really have to applaud their dedication in the hardware and services market in particular.
And I agree completely but I don't think the framework of last generation applies here since the XBOX doesn't have a significant presence in Europe and minimal success in the ROTW.
This is great news, probably the best console ever made.
I think it bodes well for next gen as they will want something that is just as good if not better, with next gen specs obviously.
I think it bodes well for next gen as they will want something that is just as good if not better, with next gen specs obviously.
But that has absolutely nothing to do with the point I was making.
The only point I was making is that the focus on winners and losers is ridiculous. I was only using last gen as an example.
I have almost zero interest in the exclusives that MS has (Sony for me is well and truly winning that battle) but the 1X and Game Pass was enough of a reason for me to finally buy my first Xbox and I have no regrets. I'm now using the 1X for the big multiplats and Game Pass and the Pro for everything else.
I now want a Switch too but where to find the time.... haha
I decided to jump back on the Xbox train and purchased a 1X, Playing Forza in 4K and Gears of War 4 has really impressed me. For such a small footprint it really delivers.
Now that I don't play on PC anymore, an Xbox is the closest I'll get to PC quality and with Gamepass you great a fantastic deal with tons of decent games that will keep me going. Only real pitfall to the Xbox is the lack of exclusives and that's why I still own a PS4 pro as well.
Now that I don't play on PC anymore, an Xbox is the closest I'll get to PC quality and with Gamepass you great a fantastic deal with tons of decent games that will keep me going. Only real pitfall to the Xbox is the lack of exclusives and that's why I still own a PS4 pro as well.
Y'all have analysts for everything huh?
Is there an analyst analyst? To see who analyses best?
I want that job
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
It's a very biased idea for xbox though. Imo not a good comparison at all.
Unprecedented growth? I'd say expected growth. If anything 2017 numbers were an Unprecedented decline. Nobody would have thought MS would sabotage their 2017 sales by letting consumers know so far out that they were working on a very powerful scorpio. 2017 sales tanked as people held out. If anything it moved sales from 2017 to 2018.
Wouldn't it be more surprising if sales didn't grow this year?
No that's distinctly different with what's going on here, you don't see people cheering for the other horse to get shot, there are people in this thread that cannot concede any form of success being attributed to MS, they grind away at every conceivable angle that puts Xbox in bad light,look at this thread and the strong Nintendo thread, lots of congratulations and speculation about further success, yet here we have the complete opposite.
Agreed. My ps3 collected dust almost all last gen and that's considering I'm a sony fan.
People aren't gonna just post "grats!" "Well done!", this is a forum to discuss things and that is what is happening here, you guys are complaining about people not throwing one liners.
It's because, Microsoft.
This has been the same since before Xbox launched in 2001. "Micro$oft" and all that. Many cannot get over those miserable BSOD days. In reality Microsoft is now a very different company under Nadella compared to both the Gates and (shudder) Ballmer days.
The original XBO DRM proposition didn't help their cause either. They still have a long way to go to win friends again, but the Xbox team is clearly doing good work during the last couple of years. Once (or if) their first party output is up to par, there will be little left for anyone to complain about really.
I seem to recall a continuous stream of "but the Xbox One isn't underperforming because of the weaker hardware" a few years ago on NeoGAF... The shot in the arm the X has given the platform would suggest otherwise.
Am definitely somewhat surprised, I didn't think it would move a lot of units. Really helps that MS has had to work hard to earn gamers back after completely screwing themselves at the start of the gen.
But the discussion is going OUTSIDE of what has been claimed, we're in a NPD sales thread, why are we bringing up EU sales? we're speaking about growth of Xbox, why are people bringing up PS4 and Nintendo comparisons? I dont often see Matt having to weigh in as much with his claims in other threads, but alot of his input unfortunately is correcting horribly inaccurate takes on Xbox. Honestly, handwaving attempts to derail this discussion isnt helping either.
There's definately a tinge of that from suspect posters, but i want to give them the benefit of the doubt, however i think this is an accurate assessment,
I definitely think, despite the initial blowback, this mid-gen refresh thing has worked as intended. I'm almost sure we'll see the same thing happen next-gen, but it's going to be interesting to see whether the usual early adopters decide to wait a few years for the inevitable revisions.
$100 off for a beefy system during Black Friday sales. I'm not surprised at all. I mused the idea of getting an XB1 X myself.
Even before the sale, I'd say it's an attractive console for those with 4K TVs.
It's a sales thread, talking about other regions in a normal occurrence even if it's about a specific one.
