It's just a better product that the Pro and it seems Xbox Owners are more likely to upgrade than the PS4 owners. So MS should be praised, the X was a courageous move and it paid off.
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Xbox One X "Performing Phenomenally" says NPD
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It's just a better product that the Pro and it seems Xbox Owners are more likely to upgrade than the PS4 owners. So MS should be praised, the X was a courageous move and it paid off.
I dont think this is a substantive argument. Xbox was doing extremely poorly last year, and this year its managed to reverse its fortunes and get back to normalcy. Where that is in comparison to Switch or PS4 literally doesnt matter to the fact that they have reversed their fortunes due to the Xbox divisions's smart moves with the X and other things.
People are stuck on treating the console wars like an Olympic event where only the Gold medal matters. MS may never sell as many units as Sony, probably won't, but that doesn't mean they can't carve themselves out an incredibly lucrative piece of the market. There's multiple ways to define success other than "most units sold". Look at iOS vs Android.
True but come 2019 Switch might surpass Xbox... Problem goes back to the exclusive content yet again and the lack of really good 3rd party bundles like COD, Red Dead & other big hit games.
You forgot RDR2, but I suppose it goes hand in hand with 4k being a selling point.
"That thing you're interested in isn't REALLY interesting and here's my completely arbitrary definition why."
well deserved. the X compared to the PS4Pro is everything the 2013 PS4 was compared to the 2013 Xbox One. just a better piece of hardware in pretty much every way, MS did a great job on this revision.
the 4k support on some BC titles is just icing on the cake.
the 4k support on some BC titles is just icing on the cake.
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I think the Xbox One X is a pretty clear indicator to MS that they can sell a premium $499 console successfully in this day-and-age. I see them releasing a $199 streaming focused 1080p device and a $499 beefy local play device at launch next-gen.
The UK isn't counted as part of Europe.
The Anglosphere, particularly the US, Canada, and UK is more competitive between the Xbox and PlayStation. Frankly it's the only place where Xbox does well.
Switch's momentum and PS4's momentum again, dont matter to the fact that the Xbox has done well for itself. You dont look at the mobile market and say the console market's growth is peanuts so it doesnt matter. its all contextual
as good as X is doing, its still a small niche of the market. I dont think betting the farm on people buying overly expensive up front hardware that isnt supplumental iterative hardware is a smart thing
The salt in this thread is sad. The report is talking about YOY growth for the "X". It has NOTHING to do with Sony or the PRO. It is just stating that YOY growth for the "X" was really good. Not sure why the need to throw in PS4 PRO sales numbers and the other bullshit. We all know the PS4 is the market leader and they are doing a great job. Competition is good and makes the market/industry better. It is just amusing how some of you want to flip this into a negative.
The main point is that Xbox One sales in 2017 were lower than any other prior year in the US (excluding 2013). In 2018 the unit sales are more inline with 2015/16 which were the two peak years for the system. It remains to be seen whether Xbox One will have a record year, but it's still significantly up from last year.
It goes to show the impact that the Xbox One X release has had on Xbox One family sales in the US. The PS4 has seen a similar thing as well with sales notably up from last year.
Whilst there are multiple reasons why total sales are up, it is worth noting that One X and Pro are one of the main reasons.
It goes to show the impact that the Xbox One X release has had on Xbox One family sales in the US. The PS4 has seen a similar thing as well with sales notably up from last year.
Whilst there are multiple reasons why total sales are up, it is worth noting that One X and Pro are one of the main reasons.
Considering how poorly MS has performed outside the US in places like Japan, it wouldn't take a lot to see significant growth. Now, I can't imagine any scenario where they overtake the market leader is placed like Japan, but they can definitely experience growth in those regions, though it probably won't amount to much in terms of unit sales overall.
Europe they have a much better shot to at least close the gap to a respectable amount. Will definitely be a huge uphill battle as Sony is much stronger in most of those regions, but the situation isn't dire like it has been in Japan.
This would be true if the business was falling. But it seems the money generated has led to Microsoft investing even more into xbox...so while third in the war can be seen as not good... actual business decisions point to it being positive.
Eh, Microsoft kicked the shit out of Sony with the Xbox 360 just one generation ago for most of the gen. With the full backing of Microsoft (something Xbox has NEVER had before, it was previously some bastard stepchild of the Windows division) I think the chances of Phil Spencer killing it next gen are a lot higher than you are implying.
I know that before the xbox one x came out I was incredibly sour on buying anything, including exclusives on the platform. The xbox one just really really soured my entire outlook on this generation. Pretty much was exclusively game flying for new shit and waiting on steam sales and humble bundle.
Xbox is making a turnaround that everyone 4 years ago said was impossible. Xbox has also brought allot to the table for gaming going forward while having a depleted first party with gamepass, cloud features (game saves automatically in the cloud is a big deal for me), game streaming and backwards compatibility while already stealthy announcing forward compatibility with Scarlett. This is nothing but good news as the big 3 get to go in very strong for next gen. End the console wars already
X wasn't a courageous move, X was their only move because of how they were doing. They have done a good job and maybe it will pay off for them next gen but it's far from courageous.
Microsoft is rebuilding brand loyalty, and these numbers show it. The power of the X is a part of that, GamePass is a part of that.
Next-gen, hopefully these recent acquisitions will result in truly compelling exclusives to match Forza's sustained metacritic output.
Really interested to see what games we'll get from Microsoft, Sony, and even Nintendo in 2020 - when the competition begins anew and they want to put their best foot forward to impress. (Perhaps Nintendo will not have a new console like the other guys, so all the more reason to remind gamers that their first-party teams are still considered best-in-class.)
Next-gen, hopefully these recent acquisitions will result in truly compelling exclusives to match Forza's sustained metacritic output.
Really interested to see what games we'll get from Microsoft, Sony, and even Nintendo in 2020 - when the competition begins anew and they want to put their best foot forward to impress. (Perhaps Nintendo will not have a new console like the other guys, so all the more reason to remind gamers that their first-party teams are still considered best-in-class.)
I find it weird how people name drop Michael Pachter, but Mat Piscatella is just 'NPD man'.
Actually, they both sold the same amount (around 84 million).
Actually, they both sold the same amount (around 84 million).
This is absolutely the wrong way to think about things. Not everything has to be console wars.
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The PS4 launched for $399 and everyone was thrilled. Adjusting for inflation, $399 forecasts to project up to ~$450 in 2020. A $499 console two years from now is nothing crazy. Frankly anything cheaper than that from either Playstation or Xbox and we simply aren't going to see any massive performance/graphics improvements.
Yea, just because MS isn't winning and dominating unit sales doesn't mean the Xbox gaming division still can't be successful and profitable for MS.
I can't speak for everyone, but I finally bought one because of their handling of BC, the ability to play 4k blu-ray movies, and overall performance on multiplat titles. Oddly enough, it's not due to any specific exclusive title. People like myself who passed on the original X1 are finding the new package pretty attractive.
Can someone explain to me why it matters that there is a "gap" with PS4 sales?? There will always be a gap... Outside of the United States PlayStation will always be more popular...
Pretty sure they aren't investing because of how successful they have been. They're finally investing in 2018 because they've seen how bad their losing. In 2014 the news was all about Sony going bankrupt & Microsoft was king of cash. Sony still took a big chance and invested heavily in games while Microsoft just bragged about their cash. Now we're here.
This is the highlight post of this thread, in my opinion. The Xbox division is clearly doing something right and that information can exist in and of itself.
jumping through some strange hoops to justify a take that is outwardly just warz
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Releasing a $499 "niche" product to an already niche demographic (Xbox owners) was an extremely courageous move. The X was mostly responded to with eye rolls & "too little, too late" from this forum when it launched. Almost no one thought it was going to be the success that it turned out to be.
Seriously.
It's 2018. The prime demo for this shit is 18-34 year olds, but people are still out here acting like they're 11, their mom bought them a Genesis, and that's what they live and die by because they can't have another console.
What was wrong about the statement? Or was it just the thinking?
Judging by the prices on both platforms' digital stores here in my country, I'd say that MS is the one aggressively targeting developing markets. Take RDR2 for instance, it's 1499 argentine pesos (roughly 40 US dollars) on the Microsoft Store vs. 2900 pesos/72 dollars on PlayStation Store. And every major title costs at least 30% less on MS store than PS store, at launch.
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Common man you should know by now Any good news about Xbox on this board is always going to be met with those kinds of comments.
Sony fans can't help but always bring up the point "but, PS4 is still the leader" even though nothing in the article mentions anything about Sony.
The X is selling well because it's mid gen upgrade that was actually well thought out and done right.