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Oreiller

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First door is usually the most criticized one....

Enjoy the ride.
Tbh, there are some elements that would have made my eyes roll in any other VN but the framing and the tone made it work quite nicely to me. It really reminds me of novellas by Prosper Mérimée or Poe I used to read as a kid.

But yeah, I can't wait to continue reading it tomorrow.
 

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Playing through Tsukihime now. It's, uh, not quite as wild as I expected after years of passively absorbing TYPE-MOON/Nasuverse hype. So far that's a good thing. It's a really fun and well-thought story so far, though I can't help but notice the contrivance Nasu used to set up early sex (but I've patched out the ero content because nah). I'm sticking to the recommended route order, so time to hang out more with Arcueid.

I'll say this: Nasu's writing style really appeals to me. It goes overboard at times, but the concision and rhythmic patterns he uses reminds me of procedural mysteries and noir stories I used to read. So even without a lot going on, I'm zipping through this at great speed. Also, there's plenty more weird eldritch stuff here than I expected, all without satisficing for Lovecraft-isms. The horror and psychological action's a strong reward for paying attention to Shiki's regular life.
Yeah I like the vibe of Tsukihime's writing style. I think the translation quality hurts the experience a little but it works. In terms of lore/worldbuilding it's a bit rougher than Fate but that's actually part of the appeal.
 
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Devil Halton's Trap
And with that, I've gotten my first true ending in Tsukihime.

Some things bug me. The discrepancy in backstory details on Arcueid's personal past, coming first from Ciel and then from the vampire, could have worked better. I wanted to learn whether or not Ciel distorted truths as part of her mission, or maybe Shiki could have asked Arcueid more about her history with Roa. It's already irritating when I have to piece together a lot of oddly-edited backstory from across the route and then deal with this.

Arcueid's a decent heroine, too. Her character conflicts are excellent, though some of her actions or behaviors in the story aren't mercurial so much as inconsistent with what we learn about her. These flaws aren't plot-holes, but just some offbeat lines or directions in dialogue that likely just need editing. She's particularly useful for developing Shiki from his walled-off, snarky student image to a more courageous and empathetic hero.

Roa/SHIKI doesn't seem that interesting a villain in this route. He does the usual Big Bad Evil Guy speech and retorts, but I'm definitely not getting the larger picture about SHIKI and how their souls interact. However, he doesn't take up too much time in this ending, keeping everything well-paced.

I'm very interested in the Tohno family secrets now. Nasu does a great job of getting you invested in the general lore, connecting both vampire-related details to Death Perception, beast lineage, and whatever an "inversion" is.

Yeah I like the vibe of Tsukihime's writing style. I think the translation quality hurts the experience a little but it works. In terms of lore/worldbuilding it's a bit rougher than Fate but that's actually part of the appeal.
Translation patch seems old and in desperate need of an editing pass, but the core writing's quite good. Dialogue and brain-dump exposition are the weak links, especially with all the repetition and paraphrasing that makes some conversations unrealistically long. I'm in love with internal dialogue and Nasu's fight descriptions, though.
 

jonjonaug

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And with that, I've gotten my first true ending in Tsukihime.

Some things bug me. The discrepancy in backstory details on Arcueid's personal past, coming first from Ciel and then from the vampire, could have worked better. I wanted to learn whether or not Ciel distorted truths as part of her mission, or maybe Shiki could have asked Arcueid more about her history with Roa. It's already irritating when I have to piece together a lot of oddly-edited backstory from across the route and then deal with this.

Arcueid's a decent heroine, too. Her character conflicts are excellent, though some of her actions or behaviors in the story aren't mercurial so much as inconsistent with what we learn about her. These flaws aren't plot-holes, but just some offbeat lines or directions in dialogue that likely just need editing. She's particularly useful for developing Shiki from his walled-off, snarky student image to a more courageous and empathetic hero.

Roa/SHIKI doesn't seem that interesting a villain in this route. He does the usual Big Bad Evil Guy speech and retorts, but I'm definitely not getting the larger picture about SHIKI and how their souls interact. However, he doesn't take up too much time in this ending, keeping everything well-paced.

I'm very interested in the Tohno family secrets now. Nasu does a great job of getting you invested in the general lore, connecting both vampire-related details to Death Perception, beast lineage, and whatever an "inversion" is.

Translation patch seems old and in desperate need of an editing pass, but the core writing's quite good. Dialogue and brain-dump exposition are the weak links, especially with all the repetition and paraphrasing that makes some conversations unrealistically long. I'm in love with internal dialogue and Nasu's fight descriptions, though.
You learn more about Roa in Ciel's route, although he's still not that great.
 

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Another day, another round of Kadokawa execs foaming at the mouth when they invent new ways to exploit their newest IPs in every medium possible. I'm sure it's a good VN, but this just highlights the missed opportunities for other IPs that big companies aren't going to invest in.

Time for more Tsukihime. I've also installed Umineko - Question Arcs and applied the 07th Mod, which looks neat. At most, I'm sticking to Chapter 1 since I don't want to get too in deep with Umineko yet.
 

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Figure I'd ask

Just finished Doki Doki Literature Club.

Not normally interested in horror but this was definitely something else. I'm finding that VNs are more consistently scratching my itch for good stories(understandably so considering the text heavy nature). I love me some gameplay too but I think I need to be able to seek good story as well(even if at the lack of traditional gameplay).

My "experiences":
-Zero Escape Series, Ever17(no interest in Never7 and Remember11 or w.e it's called)
-All Phoenix Wright games(I'm guessing they qualify)
-All Danganronpa(V3 was something else and I liked the twist)
-Doki Doki Lit Club
-House in Fata Morgana (Currently doing the Requiem stuff)
-Steins;Gate

Exceptions and skips because I don't think I'd be able to read a VN where I know the plot from anime adaptations:
-Clannad(and the other related works that I can't remember right now)
-Fate series, which includes Hollow Ataraxia (tbh not sure I'd want to read about this sort of thing)
-Steins;Gate 0(the anime is right there which is timely and therefore tempting)
-Higurashi(I did see the anime ages ago so who knows)
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I can go on as to what I like about these and all of them are different in many ways. All I can say is I am very open minded and have been pleasantly surprised giving even something like Fata Morgana a shot despite some reservations(and it's one of my favs). As I mentioned I am hesitant on horror tbh(particularly gorey visuals), but witht hat being said, what would guys recommend?

I have my eyes on Umineko for sure but I am waiting for that gold edition(I know the anime doesn't do jack).
 

Knurek

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I've also installed Umineko - Question Arcs and applied the 07th Mod, which looks neat. At most, I'm sticking to Chapter 1 since I don't want to get too in deep with Umineko yet.
Pity they still didn't finish ADV mode patch for Questions Arc. It makes the game look so much better.
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As I mentioned I am hesitant on horror tbh(particularly gorey visuals), but witht hat being said, what would guys recommend?

I have my eyes on Umineko for sure but I am waiting for that gold edition(I know the anime doesn't do jack).
Umineko is a very rewarding reread (yes I'm aware I'm talking about a 90+ hour VN).

Go for it.

Get the voice patches and don't touch the visuals IMO. For the first time, the originals are just a classic (more emotive sprites etc.), they grow on you.

Saya no Uta if you like gratuitous horror -explicit violence (of many forms), but it's short and very, very atmospheric.

...Huh. I'm having trouble coming up with anything else. Makes me feel like the hundreds of hours I've spent playing and discussing VNs has gone to waste now.

Never7, Remember11 and Ever17 are actually quite different among themselves and you're probably thinking of Ever17 if you mean the one most similar to Zero Escape. Remember11 is definitely worth a try. It's so good (with a controversial ending), and quite different from ZE. Never7 is much more of a charage (get the girls yaay type of VN), but still has sci-fi elements, and I found it very cozy.

YU-NO might be interesting but it's problematic as fuck in several ways, at least some of which are quite central to the plot. So go into that only if you have a tolerance for tedious point-and-click and the "hey, that thing you're passing off as humor is sexual harassment/assault, game" sorts of moments (which are many in this game). Gorgeous art and music and two characters I love in the endgame, though.

I didn't enjoy them much but Cartagra/Kara no Shojo are decent crime/thriller VNs.
 

Knurek

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As I mentioned I am hesitant on horror tbh(particularly gorey visuals), but witht hat being said, what would guys recommend?
Root Double
G-Senjou no Maou
Seabed
Two Flowers games
Kindred Spirits on the Roof
World End Economica
Chaos;Child
Utawarerumono
Tokyo Babel
Dies Irae
Muv Luv Alternative
428
Cupid
 
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anyone tried using Chrome remote desktop to stream VNs to an android tablet? figure maybe that might get me back into them
 

jonjonaug

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Figure I'd ask

Just finished Doki Doki Literature Club.

Not normally interested in horror but this was definitely something else. I'm finding that VNs are more consistently scratching my itch for good stories(understandably so considering the text heavy nature). I love me some gameplay too but I think I need to be able to seek good story as well(even if at the lack of traditional gameplay).

My "experiences":
-Zero Escape Series, Ever17(no interest in Never7 and Remember11 or w.e it's called)
-All Phoenix Wright games(I'm guessing they qualify)
-All Danganronpa(V3 was something else and I liked the twist)
-Doki Doki Lit Club
-House in Fata Morgana (Currently doing the Requiem stuff)
-Steins;Gate

Exceptions and skips because I don't think I'd be able to read a VN where I know the plot from anime adaptations:
-Clannad(and the other related works that I can't remember right now)
-Fate series, which includes Hollow Ataraxia (tbh not sure I'd want to read about this sort of thing)
-Steins;Gate 0(the anime is right there which is timely and therefore tempting)
-Higurashi(I did see the anime ages ago so who knows)
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I can go on as to what I like about these and all of them are different in many ways. All I can say is I am very open minded and have been pleasantly surprised giving even something like Fata Morgana a shot despite some reservations(and it's one of my favs). As I mentioned I am hesitant on horror tbh(particularly gorey visuals), but witht hat being said, what would guys recommend?

I have my eyes on Umineko for sure but I am waiting for that gold edition(I know the anime doesn't do jack).

Utawarerumono Mask of Deception and Mask of Truth for the PS4, the second and third games in the Utawarerumono series, would satisfy both "good story" and "good gameplay" requirements, though the third game is a bit better than the second on the gameplay front. If you have never played the first game or watched its anime adaptation, I would recommend watching the anime before playing (the gameplay in the version of the first game available in English is very poor). You can play the second game with mostly no issues, but the third game has lots of characters showing up from the first one.

As for other recommendations...

First let's start with the short stuff. Planetarian is the quintessential "short VN". It's a post apocalyptic science fiction story from Key (Clannad, Kanon, etc). It's the standard "light first half, heavy second half" Key formula distilled down do only a few hours, and the execution is spot on. No erotic content, if you're not a fan of that. I noticed nothing you listed has any of that so I'll try to list at least one short/medium/long game without it in case that's a dealbreaker.

Saya no Uta and Kikokugai are both available in English, the former as an official release and the later as a fan translation. These are earlier works by Gen Urobuchi, who you may be familiar with from his various anime/live action/Taiwanese puppetry work over the last seven or eight years (Madoka Magica, Psycho-Pass, Fate/Zero, Expelled From Paradise, Kamen Rider Gaim, Thunderbolt Fantasy). Saya no Uta is a mix of lovecraftian horror and romance, while Kikokugai is a mix of wuxia action and cyberpunk. Fair warning that Saya no Uta has a content warning list half a mile long, including rape, and the backgrounds are...something else (although otherwise the game's CGs aren't gore-y). I recommend watching the opening scene on Youtube before deciding whether to buy it. Kikokugai is not quite as so heavy on the extreme content but also includes rape if that's a deal killer for you. Saya no Uta has excellent atmosphere while Kikokugai's "all ages" (these are massive sarcasm quotes by the way) remake has some of the best production values and voice acting I've ever seen in a visual novel.

Hanachirasu is another short VN available in English that I'd recommend. Sword fighting action revenge story with very detailed descriptions of the sword fighting. The twist is that the protagonist is the villain of this little revenge play. CW for rape, although it's only one easily skipped through scene.

Onto medium length recommendations, I would recommend checking out The Silver Case if you happen to be a fan of Suda51 (Killer7, No More Heroes). It's one of his earlier works that's very weird, cerebral, and pretty confusing. But it's definitely an experience you won't soon forget.

428: Shibuya Scramble is one of the best examples of storytelling that can only be found in the VN medium that I can think of. You follow the stories of five separate protagonists, and choices made in one route can affect the other. The goal is to get all of them to the end of the day. Don't let the "live action" element put you off, this game has some of the best presentation I've ever seen in a visual novel with thousands of screenshots being used to convey the story, and the direction/photography in certain scenes took my breath away.

Kindred Spirits on the Roof is a yuri romance visual novel, and probably the only really good "pure yuri" VN available in English. The game follows six different pairings (plus the titular "kindred spirits" haunting the school) as they become closer over the course of six months. It's available on Steam, but you may want to hold off as a "full voice" version will be available within the next year or so, right now the game is only partially voiced. There is erotic content, but only one scene per pairing and all of it is very slight and about as close to "tasteful" as you can get while still having erotic content.

If you're fine with porn and want to try something to expand your horizons, I strongly recommend checking out the BL visual novel No, Thank You!!!. It's about an amnesiac who ends up working at a bar, the employees of which double as private investigators of a sort that are looking into drugs being peddled by an organized crime ring. The game does some interesting things with repeated playthroughs, where more facets of the story are revealed after each successive route you clear. There is also a lot of porn, if that's a deal breaker.

For longer works, I would first recommend Rewrite. This one is another work from Key, but with outside writers doing the bulk of the writing work. It's about a boy with the ability to "rewrite" his own physical capabilities, as he becomes embroiled in a war between a secretive group of superpowered humans and another group of magical eco-terrorists. It's also about enviromentalism, the evolution of species, the difficulty of forming relationships with others, and lots of other stuff. And it also has dinosaurs in it. I still remember being floored when Key dropped this video on April Fools day and it turned out to be a real trailer. No erotic content. Most of the common route, the two final routes, and two of the character routes were all done by one guy, Romeo Tanaka, and are excellent. One character's route was written by the creator of Higurashi and Umineko, and is very much a route written by the creator of Higurashi and Umineko (always entertaining, maybe not always "good"). The other two character routes were done by Key's B-list in-house writer and are not that good at all, but the rest of the game more than makes up for them.

The Muv Luv trilogy, which contains my personal favorite visual novel "Muv Luv Alternative", is a work that starts out as an ultra generic high school love comedy but eventually morphs into a Starship Troopers inspired military sci-fi epic with some of the most "real" robots you'll see outside of VOTOMs. The first part, "Extra", can be painful if you don't like late 90s/early 00s anime love comedy style happenings. I personally enjoyed it. The second part, "Unlimited", has your generic anime high school romcom protagonist wake up in an alternate universe where invading aliens have decimated the planet and humanity is on the brink of extinction. He ends up enrolled at a military academy, where this universe's version of his classmates from his original universe are also enrolled. The ending is a huge downer, with the protagonist unable to really accomplish anything of value. The third part, "Alternative", sees the protagonist back at the start of Unlimited as he tries to avert the outcome seen at the end. No erotic content in the all ages versions, although there is a patch to add it back in I wouldn't really recommend it outside of one very funny "bad ending" in Extra.
 

jonjonaug

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Flowers and Seabed have official releases.
Almost anything by ebi-hime if you count OELVNs.
Katahane and Aoishiro if you're okay with fan translations.
I forgot about Flowers, but that's not fully out yet. Not a fan of yuri OELVNs, Katahane and Aoishiro are kinda dull.

Seabed I forgot released and I remember wanting to check that out. How's that?
 

Knurek

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Seabed I forgot released and I remember wanting to check that out. How's that?
Worth a look if you can handle the (extremely dry) prose.
Also worth noting it's not really a good time to start Kindred Spirits now, since the full voice acting patch is in beta testing at Mangagamer. If you care for VA, that is.
 

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Okay that's a big list and plenty recommendations.

I don't have problems with erotic content(unless it's really excessive fanservice with not purpose other than to excite). If the content serves to develop/fully realize a bond between characters, I don't really see the problem as that's natural and nothing to shy away from. That being said it could work with and without it...

I saw 428 on PS4 recently so that's convenient for me. I'm looking at them little by little, Saya no Uta seems hard for me but I see here it is 5-6 hours so maybe I can endure it. Got a lot of research to do.

Addressing the bit someone said about Never7 and Remember11. I tried Never7 and it did not grab me and I did not have the patience at the time. Remember11 I'm avoiding because it sounds unfulfilling with regards to the ending.
 

upandaway

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I think Remember11 is totally worth it, sure there's some crazy secrets hidden in the game that aren't revealed but what's not discussed usually is that there's also plenty of insane stuff that are. I think it's satisfying in and of itself even without having another route that explains the last couple of things (and it's possible to deduce them from what's in the game anyway, it's up on the internet).

I think Ever17 can be a bit redundant after 999 but R11 is totally unique.
 

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Root Double
G-Senjou no Maou
Seabed
Two Flowers games
Kindred Spirits on the Roof
World End Economica
Chaos;Child
Utawarerumono
Tokyo Babel
Dies Irae
Muv Luv Alternative
428
Cupid
Good to see World End Economica recommendation from someone else. Ep 1 is extremely weak, but Ep 2 and 3 are decent titles. Not great, but good... and finished!
Rewrite, Root Double, and Planetarian are all excellent works that I will heartily double recommend without a thought.

And for list of English VN titles not mentioned above that I found to be decent to good:
Island
An Octave Higher
Analogue: Hate Story, Hate Plus
Tokyo Alice
The Confines of the Crown
Narcissu (I only read the first one though)
--- below titles have sexual content ---
Cross†Channel
Swan Song
Deardrops
ef - a fairy tale of the two.


Sorcery Jokers, Aiyoku no Eustia, Ayakashibito, and Dengeki Stryker are also pretty decent titles but I left them out of the list because they are thematically similar to Fate/SN which you don't seem to prefer.
 
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I put all these games in a list to little by little do research and look up. I'll reconsider remember11 but I generally have reservations playing something where there aren't answers to everything(whcih seems to be the case based on what I read about the game due to dev issues).

Is there anything specific to suggest if I really liked Zero Escape VLR and House in Fata Morgana in particular?
Anything that is more mystery and has things that grab you throughout the whole experience?
 

deepFlaw

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So the Root Letter series has announced a sequel, a series of mystery games which all will feature many of the same "actors" across multiple parts, and now a live action film and all that's been shown of this so far is screenshots of the live action remake of the original game... Like, chill...

To be fair, that series with "actors" bit was announced from the start. It's part of what made it appealing to me.

Otherwise... yeah, it's baffling.

Another day, another round of Kadokawa execs foaming at the mouth when they invent new ways to exploit their newest IPs in every medium possible. I'm sure it's a good VN, but this just highlights the missed opportunities for other IPs that big companies aren't going to invest in.

Time for more Tsukihime. I've also installed Umineko - Question Arcs and applied the 07th Mod, which looks neat. At most, I'm sticking to Chapter 1 since I don't want to get too in deep with Umineko yet.

In response to the bolded: it's not, is the thing, which makes it even more confusing.
 

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Any good iOS VNs you guys would recommend? I've heard some good things about Everlasting Summer.

Other than that, I'm thinking of playing through the Danganronpa series pretty soon here - can't wait!
 
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just to chime in on Remember11 too

the ending stuff certainly isn't ideal but it's still very much worth playing and to me that only keeps it from being in my absolute top tier of VNs(Fata Morgana/Saya no Uta)

it's well paced,doesn't really ever get boring and is my personal favorite VN by Uchikosh(that i've played anyways,which are Ever17,Remember11,and the first two of the zero escape series)
 

KLoWn

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Finished Muv-Luv Alternative yesterday and it was fuckin awesome!, and now I'm interested in more of the same.

Is the anime worth a watch? And is there any other Muv-Luv related stuff out that I don't know about?

Also, while I'm at it. It seems Steam has released a new version of M-V Alternative or something, so I can't review the game because it's an old version (I guess?) Anyone know how I can make it so that my account owns the new version without buying it again?
 

jonjonaug

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Finished Muv-Luv Alternative yesterday and it was fuckin awesome!, and now I'm interested in more of the same.

Is the anime worth a watch?
Total Eclipse: No
The East Germany one with the long title: I personally enjoyed it. Pretty good, not great.

There are a few spinoff VNs/fandiscs, some of which should be coming out eventually.
 

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Finished Muv-Luv Alternative yesterday and it was fuckin awesome!, and now I'm interested in more of the same.

Is the anime worth a watch? And is there any other Muv-Luv related stuff out that I don't know about?
Total Eclipse anime doesn't even have a conclusive ending and is a more of a "go play the VN for more". It's also a lot more slice-of-life despite the setting, so it might not be exactly jive if you have expectations for something similar to Alternative. Schwarzesmarken is a bit better in that regard, but the pacing from only 12 episodes really waters it down, as well as some pretty silly writing decisions for some of the plot twists later on.

The KS is also currently still working on photonflowers and photonmelodies, which are two extra VNs that are basically a compilation of smaller side stories in Extra or Alternative.
 

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Total Eclipse: No
The East Germany one with the long title: I personally enjoyed it. Pretty good, not great.

There are a few spinoff VNs/fandiscs, some of which should be coming out eventually.

Total Eclipse anime doesn't even have a conclusive ending and is a more of a "go play the VN for more". It's also a lot more slice-of-life despite the setting, so it might not be exactly jive if you have expectations for something similar to Alternative. Schwarzesmarken is a bit better in that regard, but the pacing from only 12 episodes really waters it down, as well as some pretty silly writing decisions for some of the plot twists later on.

The KS is also currently still working on photonflowers and photonmelodies, which are two extra VNs that are basically a compilation of smaller side stories in Extra or Alternative.
Aight. Thanks for the info.

Is there any word on a sequel for Alternative? Since the Kickstarter became such a huge success and all.
 

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Just started The House of Fata Morgana and played to the start of door 2 and really enjoying it so far!

Is getting the true (or best or whatever) ending straight forward in this? Or is it like Steinsgate where you pretty much need a spoiler free guide to reach it?
 

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Just started The House of Fata Morgana and played to the start of door 2 and really enjoying it so far!

Is getting the true (or best or whatever) ending straight forward in this? Or is it like Steinsgate where you pretty much need a spoiler free guide to reach it?
It's very straightforward. Almost every bad end is an almost immediate consequence of a particular choice. I believe there are one or two flags that need to be set to proceed in the story past a certain bit, but they're fairly obvious.
 

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The House in Fata Morgana: A Requiem for Innocence is killing me right now. It only further solidifies how amazing the main game was to me.
 

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Oh yeah, forgot to do a write up of my experience with The House in Fata Morgana.

Aside from Door 3 (which was pretty awful imo), I love basically everything about the game. It's pretty longwinded at times but I never felt like it was wasting my time. Also really pleasantly surprised by the main character, I didn't think they would go there but I'm really glad they did. I was crying so much at the end that I had to take a little break to collect myself.
I'll probably go back to get the bad endings I missed but yeah, it's probably one of my fav VN even.

I'm taking a little break before diving into A requeim for innocence though but I'm looking forward to it.
 

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When they cry5 trailer



What does the title translate to? This seems very different to Higurashi or Umineko.