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Hearthstone |OT1| New Era, Same Meta
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It isn't rigged but there is definitely an RNG bug in Hearthstone. Way too often do you see RNG results that should be virtually impossible, like ungoro packs creating 3 of the same card, or dopplegangsters all evolving into the same thing.
what no, the chances to hit doomsayer are so neglible you should only consider it, if you're far ahead and that roll is the only thing that could make you lose.
I seem to remember certain effect(s) like Discover are intentionally weighted in certain aspects, like class cards, but I don't have a source for you.
If I wanted to start an RNG conspiracy, I'd question whether Vicious Fledgling is truly random. I played a casual game recently where I attacked 5-6 times and was not offered Windfury at all. I know it's like 10% odds but it felt bad. :P
I could easily believe there are unintentional issues where RNG isn't as RNG as it should be. Actually making really good software RNG is surprisingly complex as far as I've experienced.
Speaking of bugs, I also had the bug where one game deathrattle worked (in)correctly in the brawl, with grandmother spawning big bad wolf + the singularity, and another game where it did not, spawning the wolf and THEN combining again into the singularity.
About fatigue...anyone who wants lots of anti-fatigue tools, just remember that recent post from Breezy who played a 1.5 hour brawl game. It could be pretty ugly.
How was that possible? Does the 45 turn limit not apply to Brawl or were they both roping each other?
I guess the turn limit doesn't apply to Brawl, or the turns were so long because of the deckbuilder rules that it basically roped each time.
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Umm that Rogue minion is fucking insane in Keleseth Lists. Can't believe you guys aren't impressed about it.
You are wrong. True RNG isn't even at all, if an RNG algorythm seems fair and even, then it's highly likely it's not pure randomness.
You are wrong. True RNG isn't even at all, if an RNG algorythm seems fair and even, then it's highly likely it's not pure randomness.
What is desired is a random distribution that is roughly even after a huge number of samples. Random.org supposedly uses atmospheric noise, and even a list from them of 10,000 numbers, each 1-20 (I just spent some time putting this in a spreadsheet to test) has a roughly even distribution.
Do you have any examples of pure randomness for test purposes?
it roped each time because we would use all the mana coins we had(like 8 in hand), and then lorewalker cho would do 3 animations for each single one. It was tedious.
Pure RNG does indeed close towards even values over time, but that time is longer than your average player will perceive (hence the funny examples I quoted, all of which are nothing weird or indicative of Blizzard tampering the values).
It's like a 1% chance to get Doomsayer. 99% success rate is a correct play in almost every situation. The odds of what happened were literally one in ten thousand.
Rogue card is insane, warrior clear is garbo. Too hard to activate early vs aggro, and late you just wanna run brawl and not lose 10+ armor.
Rogue card is pre-nerf AoL in a tempo class but for 3 less mana and 2 less mana of stats. SeemsGood. Drawing 2 minions in tempo rogue is absurd, especially if you're a bit heavier on the high end. Vilespines, loathebs, bonemares, cairnes, dragons? Wooo.
Rogue card is pre-nerf AoL in a tempo class but for 3 less mana and 2 less mana of stats. SeemsGood. Drawing 2 minions in tempo rogue is absurd, especially if you're a bit heavier on the high end. Vilespines, loathebs, bonemares, cairnes, dragons? Wooo.
did you guys ever do a re review of our predictions for the last expansion? just curious, loved watching the twitch broadcast last time to see how we all did compared to what we thought the meta was going to be!
its the most fun card ever printed IMO! still love it
but i'm not a top tier tourneyer like you :)
Yeah probably, but poor DK Rexxar just gets pulled down by the class, I still prefer it to Uther.
i haven't been keeping up too much with this expansion, what's the consensus on weapons so far? are they kind of meme tier like the class leggy's from last expansion? since it's just going to be an ooze fest? i feel like i'm going to be terrified of playing weapons, at least with my guess at the meta, but like i said i haven't been as on it in HS as i was last expansion
Well that's not surprising considering he doesn't really fit in the standard hunter deck and is played as more of a yogg/hail Mary most times. He's also fun so people play him when they shouldn't. There's been quite a few games where people have played the DK against me and lost when they would've just won with the normal hero power cause I'm playing a no heals deck.
I'm pretty sure if there was an actual good control hunter deck the win rate with the DK would be better. It's like saying druid DK is bad if aggro druid was the only viable druid deck.
I don't think Uther is even a poor DK, the type of deck it just normally goes into can't thrive when priest is around like this. The wincon always felt more like a gimmick, where the upgraded hero power is just a value upgrade and you mostly pay for the weapon. But a slow pally deck like that gets rolled over, the 5 armor + lifesteal weapon is still incredibly strong.
Could be wrong without going back to check, so forgive me if so but I thought you said you had like 15000 dust or something. Why not just craft Lich King? :P
You must be mixing me up with someone else I have less than a hundred dust right now after crafting Guldan and a couple MCT, but I am banking a couple UIs for a nerf.
Could have crafted TLK if I didn't craft a golden Malfurion tho. No regrets.
My bad, as I said I didn't check back through the thread :)
Anybody on EU servers free to let me watch a game so i can get this card pack :<?
Quest has been sitting there for like 4-5 days.
Quest has been sitting there for like 4-5 days.
Man they jate warlock dont they? 5 mana 2/2 deathrattle: recruit a minion. Ill try to play this one, but i dont see it going well lol.
It seems unplayable if Priest will be a high play rate still, Potion of Madness destroys it.
my bad thought it recruited a minion. Then it's considerably better than I gave it credit.
Now we just need more big Demons for Lackey and the very Oozable weapon to pull.
More ways to get Doomguard and Lakkari Felhound onto the board without discard is welcome.
More ways to get Doomguard and Lakkari Felhound onto the board without discard is welcome.
Super slow and expensive, but tons of value. Not sure though.
Control card maybe? But they have less minions they want to just vomit onto the board.
Control card maybe? But they have less minions they want to just vomit onto the board.
so like a handicapped 4/4 weapon + 4/2 boost in one card, but you have to have cards in hand....for pally hand buff deck. typically truesilver champion is a great weapon at 4 mana, but that's because having 4 attack on turn 4 is very likely to kill a minion, this late in the game, not so much. handbuff is tough to evaluate since you NEED a minion in your hand, other wise this is fairly crap obviously....hm. kneejerk says nah, since it sort of interferes with the ashbringer you don't really choose to equip and truesilver/rallying blade are already so good at controlling the early board.....kneejerk i'm going to say nah, but a handbuff deck could certainly prove me wrong, never got into hand buff decks without being frustrated though
this seems quite good, no? the value! it's almost ooze-resistant!
edit: i'm also primarily a wild player so take that as you will
I've been getting into handbuff pally recently with reasonable success, so I'm excited to plop this in and try it out. One of the few weapons so far to excite me at all.
yeah i don't think it's good, taking face damage 4 times to only do 4 damage each time at late game status where minions can have large attack values, and without the healing effect of truesilver. maybe i play too much wild but i don't see the 4/2 handbuff being a big enough upside to play that card, i don't want it.
if it was a hunter card i'd try it but pally has top tier weapons, weapon has to be top tier to be playable imo
edit: actually you get it again and again, i'm a moron, i viewed it as only equipping it twice. that could have some shenanigans if you had a lot of healing, but still, not completely convinced
getting the buff again and again is powerful if you can chain it, but you need a very minion heavy decklist for consistency?
if it was a hunter card i'd try it but pally has top tier weapons, weapon has to be top tier to be playable imo
edit: actually you get it again and again, i'm a moron, i viewed it as only equipping it twice. that could have some shenanigans if you had a lot of healing, but still, not completely convinced
getting the buff again and again is powerful if you can chain it, but you need a very minion heavy decklist for consistency?
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