Yes it will be tallied, and probably not what I would deem significant (the term is a bit subjective in this case), but we'll see.
-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
-
We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
NPD Oct 2018: COD: BO4 and RDR2 top the charts, PS4 best selling hardware
- Thread starter ZhugeEX
- Start date
Yes it will be tallied, and probably not what I would deem significant (the term is a bit subjective in this case), but we'll see.
in fact, sony was between a rock and a hard place. in planning meetings, Kenichiro Yoshida ordered that this black friday / cyber monday, the company should produce enough stock to not disappoint RusInis. on the other hand, manufacturing has its limits. even worse, internal analysts found out that there's not only other markets that might be willing to trade in their primitive currencies like donkeys, cowries or euros for ps4 entertainment systems, but that just a month later there might just be another occasion where people around the globe want to gift a pile of plastic and wires to those they hate the least. so maybe they should keep a handful of consoles in the attic for the moment.
nevertheless they decided to ramp up production with foxconn undertaking the biggest mobilisation on chinese ground since mulan, to pump out about a million consoles for the US alone, to be sold in a few days. all those boxes aligned would make a line all across the kalahari desert, which would be quite stupid, so we should be grateful that they decided instead to put them onto container ships towards those beautiful consumers that delivered the most impressive footage of violence under mind control since zebediah killgrave.
in the end, it still wasn't enough and all that's left is long faces and missed opportunities.
Anyway
I asked about more bundles because IMO Sony shouldn't think about more profits right now (they are already making a lot) and they should try to sell as much consoles as possible to bring all the price sensitive people. With Gaas, BC, subscriptions it will be harder for people to switch ecosystems so it can be profitable in the long run
I asked about more bundles because IMO Sony shouldn't think about more profits right now (they are already making a lot) and they should try to sell as much consoles as possible to bring all the price sensitive people. With Gaas, BC, subscriptions it will be harder for people to switch ecosystems so it can be profitable in the long run
What saw the most footfall and sales, BF or CM? I think that might be a factor too.
Daily Steals marketshare is going to be minimal. We're talking less than 1%.
Eh...Console warring is pretty much promoted by the console manufactures. I still see childish immature PR coming from tweets of official channels. This shame on you thing we do to gamers online while warranted, is not the big picture.
Heck many here follow sales only to see their favorite platform on top or winning.
Heck many here follow sales only to see their favorite platform on top or winning.
Call me crazy but, I think next gen Xbox will be on top of lot of NPD simply due to the fact that they will include Scarlett + a 100$ stream box as one console category (just like Xbox and Xbox x is right now) against PS5, so even though PS5 will be outselling Scarlett with the inclusion of stream box, Xbox will come on top. It might all depend on if next Playstation will have a streaming box also or not next gen.
Here we go with this again. Sony has a very stronghold in Europe unlike Microsoft.
Nothing crazy about this thought process.
Could easily happen.
Sony's stronghold in Europe does not affect US sales.
Same for America too. I love how it's ok to keep saying Microsoft is going to sell more than Sony next gen when Sony has everything going for them.
Amazing news, so happy the X is doing well, MS need to continue to produce high-end consoles.
It's ok to say anything because they're predictions. I don't personally feel he's right but that's another prediction lol
They are growing but still third this year. And they didn't win any npd this year right?
To be honest this year was the year PlayStation made the gap larger than any other year this gen.
I predict Sony will have 5 different variations of the PS5 and will sell 100 million consoles in America alone. Wow you're right this is fun :)
Overall I believe PS5 will outsell Scarlett + stream box WW, but 4 million difference over Xbox in 5 years is not that big as you might believe and stream box might be the thing that tips it in xbox favor, also benji has already pointed out USA as a whole has no loyalty so it might go either way next gen.
I understand no loyalty. We see that all the time. As of right now though Sony gets the benefit until we see Sony and MS's next gen systems revealed.
Coming from such a low point, there was always more scope for growth for Xbox.
Doing better doesn't mean winning and the others where already so high that it is much harder for them to grow.
Xbox had the specs between them and PS and Switch to grow into.
Not sure why you have a seemingly complete unwillingness to imagine a scenario where the current market leader this gen is then surplanted as the market leader the next gen (considering thats what has happened more often than not historically).
As of right now I'm giving Sony the benefit. Once they both reveal their next gen systems I'll go from there.
Wait, a steaming Xbox will be huge yet people had issues with PS Now for the longest time because it was a streaming service? I'm so confused at times lol.
Fair enough, no reason to act as though the possibility of Microsoft being the US sales leader next gen is ridiculous when interacting with other posters though. That opinion is just as worthwhile and likely as your own
Yeah I'm not sure I see the logic in that.
I still don't see a pure streaming box as something that's viable as a mass market device in the US. Our telecom industry and infrastructure needs some improvement before that can become as prevalent as people seem to hope it will be.
Yeah we're not close for a streaming box to be successful. These are video games and you need everything to be right.
Covering the gap between PS5 and Scarlett doesn't mean it has to be huge, as an example say if stream box has sold over 5 million in 5 years wont make it largely successful on its own but would have done the job in tipping npd sales in xbox favor.
Read my original message please. I already mentioned this is.
My internet is incredible, still unreliable at times and I would not want to stream games, like ever...
I think Microsoft will definitely combine them both to boost their sales numbers.
I apologize If I sounded rude, that was not my intention. English is not my primary language.
Ps Now way extremely bad in every way for the longest time. The service just recently got good. Additionaly the streaming Xbox will be a hybrid solution and not just pure streaming everything.
It's not uncommon one offer is good while another is bad in the same category.
It is an interesting subject though.
Let's say that this streaming device is $149 and the main console is $499, whilst the next PlayStation — let's called it the 'PlayStation 5' — is $399 again, I could see Xbox 'winning' some months just by the sheer number of units they sell, because of the cheaper entry price for this streaming device.
It is like with Game Pass; any game can be considered a success story of sorts, because of the number of times a game has been played (downloaded).
Thus, this streaming Xbox device could sell 300K one month with 30K of them being the main Xbox console, whereas the PlayStation 5 moves 250K units, but didn't 'win' because of a much cheaper alternative.
Let's say that this streaming device is $149 and the main console is $499, whilst the next PlayStation — let's called it the 'PlayStation 5' — is $399 again, I could see Xbox 'winning' some months just by the sheer number of units they sell, because of the cheaper entry price for this streaming device.
It is like with Game Pass; any game can be considered a success story of sorts, because of the number of times a game has been played (downloaded).
Thus, this streaming Xbox device could sell 300K one month with 30K of them being the main Xbox console, whereas the PlayStation 5 moves 250K units, but didn't 'win' because of a much cheaper alternative.
The good news is this:
For the first time in a long time the 3 brands are doing amazingly well worldwide, one way of another.
This industry needs to be competitive, these brands need to keep each other in check and that's happening right now.
3 brands, 3 different approaches to gaming, the 3 of them slaying the charts right now.
Remember in 2012 when it was all doomed for console manufacturers with all the predictions on how mobile gaming was about to destroy the console market? And in 2013 when we shouldn't pay attention to PS4 sales numbers? The same console that's about to surpass Wii and PS One in sales?
Good times!
For the first time in a long time the 3 brands are doing amazingly well worldwide, one way of another.
This industry needs to be competitive, these brands need to keep each other in check and that's happening right now.
3 brands, 3 different approaches to gaming, the 3 of them slaying the charts right now.
Remember in 2012 when it was all doomed for console manufacturers with all the predictions on how mobile gaming was about to destroy the console market? And in 2013 when we shouldn't pay attention to PS4 sales numbers? The same console that's about to surpass Wii and PS One in sales?
Good times!
Azure servers are not used for remote computing, they have to setup dedicated hardware (like Sony is doing for PS Now).
Xbox fans keep saying this. Where is this mystical xbox streaming service that still haven't been released? Like how do the hell do you know? People keep repeating azure azure azure. What makes azure so special compare to Amazon? So many question mark and so much confidence on the non existing product and service....
Here's the biggest question mark just where is this worldwide infrastructure that capable to reliably streaming to whole kind of device At 4K with no input lag on top of that
I don't think it's up to them how NPD determines what is or isn't a different system. I guess we'd have to ask Mat how that would work out.
And that's still based on the idea that this streaming box a) Happens and b) Is a success.
This always seems sobering to me, with any console. Why? The PS4 is 5 years old exactly. So, it took it 5 years to outsell the (theoretically) poor selling PS3? That's a full traditional console generation...
I know PS3 had 7 years on the market before successor (2006-2013), still doing in 5 years what another did in 7 doesn't seem like wild growth. Maybe just regular growth...
Oh plus I even forgot, the mid-gen refreshes (in this case, PS4 Pro) arguably make it not a 100% fair comparison, there was no PS3 Pro.
Ps4 vs Xbox 360 in final LTD NPD should be a pretty fun comp. Considering AFAIK Xbox 360 finished a close 2nd to only PS2 in final USA sales.
Too bad due to NPD not revealing any numbers we'll never know anyway!
I've been tracking 360 vs One and it's interesting, only just now gen aligned the 360 pulled ahead of the One in NPD. However, Xbox 360 had a MASSIVE year 6. Xbox 360 sales in years 5 and 6 were insane. Due to Kinect I guess. It's weird what an strong positive sales effect it had given how maligned it was.
Last edited:
40% growth is pretty massive, though. It's also close to outselling the system worldwide, where it definitely wasn't weak. It's doing ridiculously well, actually. Its sales are in line with the biggest systems of all time.
I am curious if NPD will look at Scarlett and Xbox stream box as one family of system or not. Microsoft definitely will be using both figures combined to announce sales numbers if they do announce them.
PS4 has already outsold the PS3 worldwide. a couple months ago actually.