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broncobuster

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I usually stay optimistic about movies until I've seen them, and I didn't hate Apocalypse or anything, but seeing the Dark Phoenix trailer ahead of Creed 2 kinda sucked the air out. It's mad dull looking with just Sansa moping around and shots of other characters standing around.
 

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Disney's live action output outside of their big 3 of Marvel, Star Wars, and Animated Remakes seems to be mostly throwing whatever they can on the wall and hope it works with it not working most of the time.
 

Seeya

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Depends on Dark Phoenix's budget.

If it's a Justice League situation? DP. If not, Artemis Fowl, unless Disney Marketing can turn things around during the second trailer.

Didn't they do a lot of reshoots or was that only for New Mutants to make it more of a horror movie? The movie got a huge delay either way. I doubt that Fox is putting their all behind promoting it.

I gotta say, the latest Battle Angle trailer does a good job of selling the movie, sure it's one of those trailers that spells out the beats from start to finish, but a good heroes journey is a good heroes journey y'know?



Also more good news for Aquaman in China!

 
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broncobuster

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Anyone worried about Spider-verse possibly underperforming hurting sequel chances, well



Joaquim Dos Santos, known for his work on cartoon series Avatar: The Last Airbender and more recently, Netflix's Voltron series, has been tapped to direct the sequel.

At the same time Lauren Montgomery, who also worked on Voltron and co-directed animated movies Batman: Year One and Superman/Batman: Apocalypse for DC, is in negotiations to helm an untitled Spider-centric project that will gather the female heroes in the Spider-Man universe of characters in one adventure. Bek Smith, who wrote episodes of CBS show Zoo, will pen the script.
 

KillstealWolf

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All that stops if it doesn't do well

Something has to go catastrophically wrong for Spiderverse to do badly.

It probably ain't gonna be quality based on the 30 minute preview I've seen. And even if it somehow falls apart in the last act. Quality didn't stop Venom.

Spiderman as a franchise is still really big thanks to Homecoming, Infinity War, The Spiderman Game, heck even Venom, Venom even had a post-credits stinger for Spiderverse.

Heck, Spiderverse 2: Featuring Venom-num-num-na-na-num alone is an easy enough sequel Sony can make for it.
 

Chaos Legion

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Justin Tipping rumored to be at the helm of Harbinger.

Have no idea who he is, but please make Valiant movies good, Sony.
 

Seeya

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Justin Tipping rumored to be at the helm of Harbinger.

Have no idea who he is, but please make Valiant movies good, Sony.

Anyone worried about Spider-verse possibly underperforming hurting sequel chances, well



Sony has had an uncanny ability to lure talent onto projects.

Doesn't mean they'll get made, Sony loves plans, but I don't think we're seeing signs of Spider-verse crashing yet.
 

Schlorgan

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Anyone worried about Spider-verse possibly underperforming hurting sequel chances, well


That would be great, but they also made plans like these leading up to the releases of ASM2 and Ghostbusters. Sony does this a lot.

(I believe this movie will be of a higher quality than those, I just wanted to remind people that Sony has a track record of being very presumptuous with their cinematic universes)
 
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Seeya

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Something has to go catastrophically wrong for Spiderverse to do badly.

It probably ain't gonna be quality based on the 30 minute preview I've seen. And even if it somehow falls apart in the last act. Quality didn't stop Venom.

Spiderman as a franchise is still really big thanks to Homecoming, Infinity War, The Spiderman Game, heck even Venom, Venom even had a post-credits stinger for Spiderverse.

Heck, Spiderverse 2: Featuring Venom-num-num-na-na-num alone is an easy enough sequel Sony can make for it.

The preview sucked!?!?!?!
 

Seeya

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Nah preview was great, sorry if I phrased that badly. Greatly enjoyed what I saw in the first 30 minutes.

The only way the film reviews badly is if the quality somehow nosedives in the rest of the film. I don't think that's going to happen.

Disappointed that I couldn't make it to the preview in my neck of the woods. If you don't mind my asking, how was the Lego movie styled jerkiness to movement on the big screen? Did it distract at all, did you 'get used to it', or did it never seem to hamper the visuals and story?
 

KillstealWolf

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Disappointed that I couldn't make it to the preview in my neck of the woods. If you don't mind my asking, how was the Lego movie styled jerkiness to movement on the big screen? Did it distract at all, did you 'get used to it', or did it never seem to hamper the visuals and story?

Admittingly in the preview version I watched in October was an unfinished cut, so some scenes were still low quality CGI Models, didn't have mouth movements and some had Temp voices. Obviously those aren't going to be in the final product but they may change the animation on some of the other scenes between when I watched it and final release despite looking like they were already near done. For the scenes that were complete though (like the big action set-piece that breaks out shortly after Miles finds Kingpin's Particle Accelerator it looked great in motion. Didn't really find myself distracted by it at all. I also loved some of the shots they give Kingpin in this scene in particular.
 

RolandGunner

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Sony has had an uncanny ability to lure talent onto projects.

Doesn't mean they'll get made, Sony loves plans, but I don't think we're seeing signs of Spider-verse crashing yet.

They seem to be more willing to give features to talented people than the other major studios. Wonder if these same folks are leery of working with smaller studios where their stuff may not get any attention?
 

broncobuster

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I got burned hoping that Lego Batman would be successful, so I'm very cautious about hoping that this movie is successful.

LEGO Batman was pretty successful. Just not some huge massive smash hit, but it didn't need to be at its budget. I believe I saw Spider-verse has a budget of $90M. I'm sure it'll be enough of a success to make Sony happy.
 

Schlorgan

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LEGO Batman was pretty successful. Just not some huge massive smash hit, but it didn't need to be at its budget. I believe I saw Spider-verse has a budget of $90M. I'm sure it'll be enough of a success to make Sony happy.
Lego Batman only did $311m when I was hoping it would make at least double that (I definitely felt that it deserved it).

I just see a lot of people here being extremely optimistic about Spider-Verse's potential gross (in the same way that I was about Lego Batman) and I'm worried that it'll disappoint those people in the same way that Lego Batman disappointed me.
 

J_Viper

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This is a real poster
 

NealMcCauley

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Anyone know when reviews for Mowgli are dropping? Premiere was on the 25th and limited theater engagements start tomorrow.
 

Seeya

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What about the original Lego Movie? I don't see it making $257MM domestic, but $470MM worldwide seems reasonable to me?

Even if it breaks out Domestically through WOM, I think that a decent chunk of its potential in doing that will be drown out by the other movies over the season. But That's totally doable, it will probably rely on the global market even if stateside overperforms.

Sony would be over moon fucking thrilled with 500M and great critical reception. Suddenly they'd have Venom(verse?), Jumanji, and Spiser-verse as tentpoll franchises, and it would be easy for them to keep making new Spider based CG movies with proven animated talent.

Now let's wonder what happens if both MIB and Valiant price successful.

The press will be writing about 'the genius of Sony' like the days of old after Spider-Man came out.


They seem to be more willing to give features to talented people than the other major studios. Wonder if these same folks are leery of working with smaller studios where their stuff may not get any attention?

They seem to be being pretty cagey about offering talented people 'upgrades' (such as TLA guy) and finding those who might already be on the 'movie' level but have gotten lost in the shuffle.

If Spider-verse and OUATIH, I'm pretty much ready to call this a Sony Pictures Renaissance.
 
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Noobie

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Even if it breaks out Domestically through WOM, I think that a decent chunk of its potential in doing that will be drown out by the other movies over the season. But That's totally doable, it will probably rely on the global market even if stateside overperforms.

Sony would be over moon fucking thrilled with 500M and great critical reception. Suddenly they'd have Venom(verse?), Jumanji, and Spiser-verse as tentpoll franchises, and it would be easy for them to keep making new Spider based CG movies with proven animated talent.

Now let's wonder what happens if both MIB and Valiant price successful.

The press will be writing about 'the genius of Sony' like the days of old after Spider-Man came out.




They seem to be being pretty cagey about offering talented people 'upgrades' (such as TLA guy) and finding those who might already be on the 'movie' level but have gotten lost in the shuffle.

If Spider-verse and OUATIH, I'm pretty much ready to call this a Sony Pictures Renaissance.
You are dreaming too much. Let's wait for at least first week domestic and overseas numbers.
 
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Who is greenlighting any of these various king arhur/robin hood whatever the fuck else every couple of years. You are tremendously bad at your job. This must be some kind of tax scam.
 

Punished Goku

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Y'know lately I've been wondering how a GoT film would do. Seeing the tv series continue to break records I'm sure a big screen adaptation would do the same.
 
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