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Gamer arrested 'after rape overheard during online Grand Theft Auto session' [READ OP]

CaviarMeths

CaviarMeths

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Oct 25, 2017
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Low key get the feeling that people in this thread arguing over the semantics of calling an 18 year old a man/adult are actually more invested in defending the morality of an 18 year old being in a relationship with a 15 year old. I mean, I'm not particularly bothered by high school seniors dating sophomores either, but people should just say what they mean. Legally, he is most definitely and unambiguously an adult. There's no deception here by the OP or the BBC.

But it's missing the point regardless. The issue here is of course the violent crime committed.
 
Ushay

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Oct 27, 2017
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The bigger issue here is rape. What's worrying is why someone so young thinks it's ok.
 
kitsuneyo

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TheCreationTS said:
13-19: teenage time.
Not a man! Your title is wrong.
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Why is it important to you to make this distinction?

In the US, as in the UK, he's an adult in the eyes of the law and society in general. You seem to think being a teen and being an adult are mutually exclusive, but they aren't.

Her being a minor does also make him a child sex offender as well as a rapist.

(Edit, typo)
 
GhostTrick

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TheCreationTS said:
Well i don't care about what law says.
In general he's only a teenager. That's why they say "EighTEEN"
Using a MAN name for this person is not correct. Of course in a trial they will treat him as adult but in general speaking that's misleading.
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We should tell that to the One hundred and eighTEEN years old people.:")
Really ? We have to argue about the use of man or not ?
He's 18 years old, he's grown up enough to be called a man.
 
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CaviarMeths said:
Low key get the feeling that people in this thread arguing over the semantics of calling an 18 year old a man/adult are actually more invested in defending the morality of an 18 year old being in a relationship with a 15 year old. I mean, I'm not particularly bothered by high school seniors dating sophomores either, but people should just say what they mean. Legally, he is most definitely and unambiguously an adult. There's no deception here by the OP or the BBC.

But it's missing the point regardless. The issue here is of course the violent crime committed.
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Yeah this thread took a weird and unexpected turn, the age gap isn't even close to being the issue here

Do people think it's not as bad if we argue this guy is a 'teen' and not a 'man'?

He deserves decades in jail whatever you wan't to class him as
 
GhostTrick

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unicornKnight said:
No one thinks you said that. My point is that if it was consensual I wouldn't call the guy a pedo, the age difference is quite small.

I think you confuse the meaning of word pedophile.
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It's not consensual though. We're arguing about dumb semantics in a "what if it was consensual, would you call him a pedophile" when it's a case of a 18 years old man raping a 15 years old girl.
Me calling him a pedophile obviously means he's a rapist.
 
Protome

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Good on the person who called the authorities. Hope this dude rots.

TheCreationTS said:
Well i don't care about what law says.
In general he's only a teenager. That's why they say "EighTEEN"
Using a MAN name for this person is not correct. Of course in a trial they will treat him as adult but in general speaking that's misleading.
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Why did you choose to be stupidly pedantic in a thread about a paedophile raping someone? What is wrong with you?
 
SigSig

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Pedo-Defense-Force has already arrived, I see. Anyway, fuck that piece of shit child-rapist.
 
BlacJack

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Ushay said:
The bigger issue here is rape. What's worrying is why someone so young thinks it's ok.
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Why does age matter, honestly. Rape happens at all ages and I don't think it's any worse or better based on the offender's age.

This thread is so caught up on age as if it makes any damn difference or they should know more or less than older people when it comes to this. Everyone knows it's fuckin wrong. People don't rape because they think it's ok, they rape because they think they can get away with it.
 
Sorian

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Oct 25, 2017
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GhostTrick said:
It's not consensual though. We're arguing about dumb semantics in a "what if it was consensual, would you call him a pedophile" when it's a case of a 18 years old man raping a 15 years old girl.
Me calling him a pedophile obviously means he's a rapist.
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The issue that's bothering people is because you are conflating two legal definitions that have nothing to do with each other. There's no world where this guy is a pedophile regardless of how old he was or whether there was was "consent" or not. Those words have to do with the age of the victim, this would be hebephilia or the one above it that I never remember the name of.

Regardless, I'm glad someone was compelled enough to report this and I hope she gets all the help she needs.
 
NoName999

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*An adult, human male forced himself on a girl*

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Fucking gamers, I swear. Something that's VERY EASY to condemn and the gamers are defending the pos by refusing to call the perp an adult.

The rapist is white, isn't he?
 
Martl

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A so small age difference will always be debatable but that shouldn't be the focus here.

Hope the girl is alright and the guy gets his deserved punishment.
 
joe_zazen

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CaviarMeths said:
Low key get the feeling that people in this thread arguing over the semantics of calling an 18 year old a man/adult are actually more invested in defending the morality of an 18 year old being in a relationship with a 15 year old. I mean, I'm not particularly bothered by high school seniors dating sophomores either, but people should just say what they mean. Legally, he is most definitely and unambiguously an adult. There's no deception here by the OP or the BBC.

But it's missing the point regardless. The issue here is of course the violent crime committed.
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I know where I live, the age difference plays a part in whether something is statutory rape or not. I think it is 3 or 4 years or something, so as to prevent unecessary life ruining for no societal benefit.

But this is actual rape, so who care about that stuff.
 
joe_zazen

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Martl said:
A so small age difference will always be debatable but that shouldn't be the focus here.

Hope the girl is alright and the guy gets his deserved punishment.
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Pretty sure nobody is alright after being raped. At best, it wont affect her future ability to form intimate bonds, but for some, it really can be a life long curse.
 
Brazil

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Let's avoid derailing this thread with discussions on whether this counts as pedophilia or ephebophilia, as these arguments serve only to distract from the seriousness of the subject. Any further posts that disrespect this will be actioned appropriately.
 
GhostTrick

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Sorian said:
The issue that's bothering people is because you are conflating two legal definitions that have nothing to do with each other. There's no world where this guy is a pedophile regardless of how old he was or whether there was was "consent" or not. Those words have to do with the age of the victim, this would be hebephilia or the one above it that I never remember the name of.

Regardless, I'm glad someone was compelled enough to report this and I hope she gets all the help she needs.
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Yeah, so some people seems to be more bothered I may have used the wrong term by calling that rapist a pedophile than what the actual pedophile rapist did. (Btw the term you're looking for is ephebophilia. I'll still call him a pedophile).
 
spman2099

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Brazil said:
Let's avoid derailing this thread with discussions on whether this counts as pedophilia or ephebophilia, as these arguments serve only to distract from the seriousness of the subject. Any further posts that disrespect this will be actioned appropriately.
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Exactly. Who fucking cares about the age. Someone was raped.
 
rochellepaws

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TheCreationTS said:
I know the story is horrible and i know how hard it is for that girl in this age and i'm totally sorry. But that doesn't mean we can't talk about anything else.
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If you really knew and appreciated how horrible it was I'm not sure you'd prioritise making such pedantic remarks. It's really inappropriate to derail a thread on something so serious for something so pointless and inconsequential in my view.
 
ggx2ac

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TheCreationTS said:
13-19: teenage time.
Not a man! Your title is wrong.
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TheCreationTS said:
Well i don't care about what law says.
In general he's only a teenager. That's why they say "EighTEEN"
Using a MAN name for this person is not correct. Of course in a trial they will treat him as adult but in general speaking that's misleading.
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You are biologically an adult the moment you finish puberty which doesn't start from 20 years old so...
 
jorgeobamajr

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People saying that there's only a 3 year difference between 18 and 15 are completely missing the fact that one person being 18 in a society that is constantly telling kids they become adults and will be independent when they become 18 creates a fucking huge power inbalance between the two people. The age 18 isn't some arbitrary cutoff and it doesn't spring into existence out of nowhere: it has consequences on how people act, and being 18 can be a literal tool that predators can use to groom underage people. Don't handwave it as '3 years'

Hope the girl gets whatever helps she needs and the guy gets locked up. What an awful situation.

E: missed the mod edit, apologies
 
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That Belgian Dude said:
Hope the girl gets whatever helps she needs and the guy gets locked up. What an awful situation.
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You would think he's not got much of a chance of getting off, the issue in most rape cases is it's his word vs her word, and a common defence from the guy is "she didn't say no" or "she consented" but in this case, the person who reported it is literally a witness, who heard her say "no"

Seems pretty open and shut. She said no at the time, he didn't care, someone heard her say no, and found the audio of that so troubling they reported it to the police

Hopefully this adult man is thrown the fuck into a cell for a long time
 
TheCreationTS

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rochellepaws said:
If you really knew and appreciated how horrible it was I'm not sure you'd prioritise making such pedantic remarks. It's really inappropriate to derail a thread on something so serious for something so pointless and inconsequential in my view.
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Ok, you're the good person and I'm the bad person, why? Because i'm talking about the guy's age.
Let's not discuss it anymore.
 
The_Ultima

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Nov 15, 2018
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Dear resetera,

a "fellow gamer" reacted properly as soon as he realized someone on the internet´s not behaving the way a proper human being should behave.

Learn from that guy!
 
dat boi

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Oct 28, 2017
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Disgusting. But why was she in his house to begin with? Are they in a relationship and he forced himself on her that night? We don't know all the details. He's a pedophile sex offender though for sure.
 
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