It's a toggle that you can enable at the start of the game and leave it on until it ends.
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Artifact Closed Public ßeta, November 18-28 |OT| An out of season October 2018 Fool's Joke
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It's a toggle that you can enable at the start of the game and leave it on until it ends.
Magic Online and Hex both did this exact same model. Magic has been around since 2002.
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It's one thing for the game to keep track of cards played, but including the whole decklist from the start is just too much information, maybe with the small card pool people will know what to expect anyway but having it confirmed from the start is just not good. I don't like it at all, maybe I'm missing something.
Thanks! Please mention the first community tourny there if you can as well
Yeah I don't really agree with including the whole decklist including cards that haven't been played yet. Absolutely okay with keeping a list of cards already played though.
Same.
I just feel this kills any original deck building or tech choices.
Not a fan of this addition.
The game shows your opponents entire decklist from the start?
That's certainly different.
I've been avoiding any gameplay for the game, so I'm super hyped to go in blind on Wednesday.
That's certainly different.
I've been avoiding any gameplay for the game, so I'm super hyped to go in blind on Wednesday.
I love card games so I'm sure I'll like it.
I'll avoid the modes that cost event tickets or packs until I get the hang of things.
It seems super complicated but that's what makes it even more fun for me to go in blind. I'll learn the mechanics from messing around than learn the deeper stuff after I look online.
All I know is if I open an Axe or Drow from my packs, sell it day one.
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I'm really excited for this game — I have confidence in any Richard Garfield designed card game — but really not sure how I feel about the deck reveal feature. I understand it after the fact, but during seems like a lot of surprise and thrill will be taken away as a result.
It's interesting though.
I don't like playing arena in Hearthstone because you never know what to play around, the decks feel too random for me to enjoy. I wonder if this mitigates that and makes you feel more in control of the game.
I don't like playing arena in Hearthstone because you never know what to play around, the decks feel too random for me to enjoy. I wonder if this mitigates that and makes you feel more in control of the game.
artifact giveaways
50 here
https://www.artifactfire.com/artifa...ch-party-giving-away-50-copies-of-artifact-38
100 on trunkroll's twitch
https://www.reddit.com/r/Artifact/comments/a0l52s/giving_away_100_copies_of_artifact_on_my_stream/
i got mine from trunkroll's previous 100 giveaway last week
good luck boysh
50 here
https://www.artifactfire.com/artifa...ch-party-giving-away-50-copies-of-artifact-38
100 on trunkroll's twitch
https://www.reddit.com/r/Artifact/comments/a0l52s/giving_away_100_copies_of_artifact_on_my_stream/
i got mine from trunkroll's previous 100 giveaway last week
good luck boysh
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hehe volvo time
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Are they doing polish on the game up to the minute it release? Come on Valve!
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so apparently the decktracker reveals the opponent's entire decklist (including cards you have not seen)
i've heard random noobs propose this type of stuff in other games, but it always seemed like a bad idea to ruin the game for 99.9% of people just to prevent the 0.1% (streamers) from getting scouted
i've heard random noobs propose this type of stuff in other games, but it always seemed like a bad idea to ruin the game for 99.9% of people just to prevent the 0.1% (streamers) from getting scouted
Damn I am far too lazy to sit waiting on streams to win a free key :(
Not sure I'm a fan of revealing your opponent's deck
Not sure I'm a fan of revealing your opponent's deck
Yeah, I've been pretty excited about playing this, but I'm definitely *not* a fan of revealing both decklists.
From a play experience perspective, I feel the cons far outweigh the pros.
Keeping decklists obscured allows you to sneak in one-ofs for the surprise factor or other tech. If both decks are a known constant from the very beginning, then players will probably be able to tell which list will win (assuming equal skill levels). When both decks are an unknown, you're forced to play differently because you're playing around uncertainties--decklists eliminates that entirely.
It's even worse in draft. No one wants to play a game they're goingt to lose, and if you see your deck is outclassed from the get-go, it's just going to be a negative experience. This will probably just encourage people to concede in casual, or become super salty in constructed.
I don't understand the reasoning behind its inclusion. What a mind boggler.
From a play experience perspective, I feel the cons far outweigh the pros.
Keeping decklists obscured allows you to sneak in one-ofs for the surprise factor or other tech. If both decks are a known constant from the very beginning, then players will probably be able to tell which list will win (assuming equal skill levels). When both decks are an unknown, you're forced to play differently because you're playing around uncertainties--decklists eliminates that entirely.
It's even worse in draft. No one wants to play a game they're goingt to lose, and if you see your deck is outclassed from the get-go, it's just going to be a negative experience. This will probably just encourage people to concede in casual, or become super salty in constructed.
I don't understand the reasoning behind its inclusion. What a mind boggler.
I guess you're right, weird was not the right choice of word..
It's just a little strange because you get a complete gameplay package even if you don't decide to pay any money at all. It's not like you have no game if you decide not to spend any money at all.
But I understand the pleasure it makes to fill out bars and get little progression updates.
Yeah I am not a fan of the revealed decklists. I love to brew new deck ideas, been playing mtg for 21 years, and this almost ruins constructed play for me.
Seeing Reddit react makes me think they may reverse their decision.
Seeing Reddit react makes me think they may reverse their decision.
The fact you're actually someone playing the game in-universe and you're trying to affect the future really gets my attention. I love alternate timelines/universe stories.
I should probably force myself to actually pre-order when I get back home this evening.
I should probably force myself to actually pre-order when I get back home this evening.
The weird thing about the deck list is that it was in the early phases of the beta and was randomly taken out at some point. Since then it's been the thing the pros have wanted most seemingly.
Maybe it was something they were doing at the start of the beta to get people used to the game more, but then pros ended up liking it?
Maybe it was something they were doing at the start of the beta to get people used to the game more, but then pros ended up liking it?
The entire decklist tracker makes sense for competitive/tournament play and should remain an option in the custom tournament tabs...
But yea I'm 100% against the current deck tracker for the matchmaking modes. I really hope at the very least they modify it to show only your opponents played cards + hero signature cards (since it's obvious what those are anyway).
But yea I'm 100% against the current deck tracker for the matchmaking modes. I really hope at the very least they modify it to show only your opponents played cards + hero signature cards (since it's obvious what those are anyway).
I know it's a different team, which at Valve is basically a different company, but this seems like something they'd do for Dota. Casually patch in something crazy then spend a day or two gathering feedback before tweaking it to be something most people can be happy with.
Trunkroll's giveaway is happening right now for those interested.
Welp I've got nothing to do right now so I guess I'll try before I preorder lol
Valve do that sort of thing all the time. Most of the time people are happy or indifferent to it and nothing changes.
He's giving away a copy every 5 minutes, but when he's playing a game he's letting a timer go to then do the roll after the game of how many copies the time has passed. Just a heads up. Just gotta put in the keyword when he says and then if you're picked you just type your profile full link in chat.
So far it's been worth it watching this guy just trying to give them away and sift through the bots.
He had to give away 12, then the time it took him to give those away it already past enough time that he had to give another 7 away. He's already up to 2 more copies needing given away since working on these 7.
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is that legal to just check out people's steam account winners live on twitch?
Not sure why it wouldn't be? He's just looking at their public profile in order to friend them?
He's only played one game and it was a somewhat long game at maybe slightly over 30 min, but most of his stream has been trying to deal with giving the games away.
To be fair his first game was pretty good, he'd basically lost but due to a poor card from his opponent he was able to hold on and eventually get a comeback win.
Yeah that one game was great to watch, and the trainwreck ever since has been just as worth it.
When the chat starts to spam "enterme" it cracked me up every time.
Somehow I just loaded up artifact and am able to play? I didnt have any beta keys, so that's weird, anyone else able to?
You're one lucky motherfucker if true.
Game is still locked for me.
It's surreal, I thought it might have already launched so I installed and am able to play. But I see it comes out tomorrow? I have no idea how.
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