Same feeling here. I see it as her enjoying herself and having fun. I'm not at all aroused by it.
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Bayonetta 3 should get rid of Bayo losing her clothes
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Same feeling here. I see it as her enjoying herself and having fun. I'm not at all aroused by it.
No..instead i want Kamiya to remove the 'cover up'.
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Also, why should bayo cover up herself if she's enjoying it (and she does seems so).
If men can flaunt their macho masculinity by having naked upper body and flexing their muscles, then bayo has all the rights to do so too.
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Also, why should bayo cover up herself if she's enjoying it (and she does seems so).
If men can flaunt their macho masculinity by having naked upper body and flexing their muscles, then bayo has all the rights to do so too.
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Luka = Rodin > Bayo > Jeane > Baldur > Mario >>>>>>>>>>> Loki
Gimme a Luka or Rodin game anyday
Imagine a Luka game like Pokemon Snap but with angels and demons instead of shitty digimon ripoffs
Again, her character isn't played for titillation or fan service. Yes, she's very sexual, but she's not necessarily sexy if that makes sense. But even assuming the worst of her character and creator, I'd say it's still several tiers beneath other AAA gaming and how it treats sexuality (say, God of War before the latest one as an example)
No.
And for why she loses her heair, its based in European medieaval beliefs that witches used their long hair for their magic. The more powerful/bigger summons need more hair to pull them in and control them. More hair for hear summons, less to cover her body. She has a finite amount of hair.
And for why she loses her heair, its based in European medieaval beliefs that witches used their long hair for their magic. The more powerful/bigger summons need more hair to pull them in and control them. More hair for hear summons, less to cover her body. She has a finite amount of hair.
I wonder how different this thread would be if we had a male character using sex appeal as his power and getting naked for his moves.
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He didnt design her moreso just asked for certain things. I cant remember what her name is but another person did and Kamiya gave it the Ok
Theres a good documentary on it
But it's not, because it's not a 1:1 trade... Media isn't kind to women when it comes to sexual themes, being the victim in often extreme ways or at best the fem fatal/black widow at the best of times.
In effect, just changing the sexes around would make this Dude version of Bayonetta a more extreme, but still in line with a lot of other media.
(edit) I feel like your post got edited and it changed the meaning, or maybe it didn't and I just completely misread it. You can disregard what I said, but I'll leave it up for posterity.
I don't care for the clothes-losing, but I also don't care enough to want it gone if it will piss of fans. I guess I kind of like how weird she is as a character.
No, the fuck dude, no.
Ya she is sexualized to hell and back, that's kinda the point, but even past that, the gimmick and design is just cool.
All of her cloths and magic being made out of her own hair and then transforming is neat.
She is a disgusting horrorfying monster though, you are right about that.
Kamiya is into some shit.
Ya she is sexualized to hell and back, that's kinda the point, but even past that, the gimmick and design is just cool.
All of her cloths and magic being made out of her own hair and then transforming is neat.
She is a disgusting horrorfying monster though, you are right about that.
Kamiya is into some shit.
Had to they literally cant keep getting away with it. And Love you too!
I see where you coming from but it doesnt apply to Bayonetta. Since when should Kamiya feel the need to change his OC to please yall?
IMO many not all but some of the people that think so seem to be way too controlling. Its ok to be sexy. Stop trying to hide it and hide female sexuality when they own it. This isnt a Xenoblade situation. Even though I disagree there too I atleast understand where people coming from. This situation here? Totally different.
That's a pretty thorough explanation, thanks.
I can see how it kind of makes sense in that context. Though I'm still not sure how to feel about the character, myself.
I did only edit it because I mispelled, but the meaning has not changed at all.
I say this because I honestly believe some of the answers to the poll and here in the thread is not because Bayonetta is character who uses sex appeal as her power, and more because these people like seeing this woman almost naked making these moves on their screen. That's why I wonder how different this would be the other way around because I can bet it you that the percentage would of "No" would be much lower.
But yeah, I don't have a answer to this pool after thinking for a bit, this is not the camera situation that Bayonetta has, this is actually Bayonetta herself and her moves, I can see why people choose No but at the same time I'm not sure if it's correct.
Hell no the gamers need their scantily clad women. It's part of the story that was written by a dude!
I vote no. I always felt the way they covered her up during these moves was super fun and that the animations added a lot more of her personality to the gameplay. Taking it away for modesty reasons seems very against her character imo.
Besides I think this aspect is far from the sketchiest part of the game. Some of the extra costumes made me much more uncomfortable, and those don't even disappear during these animations.
Besides I think this aspect is far from the sketchiest part of the game. Some of the extra costumes made me much more uncomfortable, and those don't even disappear during these animations.
The character design and game direction are often at odds in Bayonetta. The camera angles/framing can seem very male gaze-y in ways that I think undermine what they're going for with the design. Bayonetta is fuckin weird, I don't think it's the Feminist gamer slam dunk that it often seems to get hand waved away as, there is plenty to discuss and criticize (and praise of course). Overall something about it feels a little juvenile, which isn't surprising considering Kamiya. I get that plenty of people like that style but I'd be down for an attempt to "mature" it up, like they did with GoW this year.
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Hmm hmmmmmmm
I'll allow it. Abs r hot af and with the amount of work out she do she should obvs be at least Urbosas build
That will never go well with YouTubers and Redditors. Bayonetta is not a big name anyway. So if they want to make a game without ridiculous sexualized characters, they should just start a new franchise. It'll be much easier compared with navigating the toxic online feedback if they change anything of Bayonetta.
True, but also she often looks at the camear and even winks at it, so (at least to me) it gives the impression that the character is aware of the camera and is playing along with it.
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Id rather be proven wrong than live in ignorance
I feel, despite whatever Kamiyas intentions were, that the male gaze is subverted. Bayo herself recognizes the male gaze camera and takes control of it for herself. She takes something generally meant to dehumanize and reclaims it for herself similar to how derogatory terms have been reclaimed by their victims over the ladt several decades as a means of taking back power for themselves.
As a huge fan of Bayonetts framchise. To the point it was my game of the year when it came out. And I currently own 3 versions of Bayonetta 1 and 2 versions of 2. I can say....
It doesn't make a difference to me. If she went the more Smash Brothers way or even lost the gimmick entirely it would not change my love for her and the Franchise.
She's more than an untextured "naked" body. Her personality doesn't require it for her to be dominating and powerful. Hell I am to the point now where I usually play Bayo2 with her in the opening cinematic dress so I don't even get the "naked" anymore.
It doesn't make a difference to me. If she went the more Smash Brothers way or even lost the gimmick entirely it would not change my love for her and the Franchise.
She's more than an untextured "naked" body. Her personality doesn't require it for her to be dominating and powerful. Hell I am to the point now where I usually play Bayo2 with her in the opening cinematic dress so I don't even get the "naked" anymore.
Well you're wrong. Secondly, how come no one ever looks at it from a woman point of view? I got introduced to Bayonetta from a girlfriend.
Men, you have to lose this controlling atitude about women. That shit aint healthy. Yes Kamiya made this specifically but theres plenty characters women designed and yall say the same thing. Nobody owes you comfortability and peace of mind by designing their characters to please you.
While I do have a bit of a preference, overall this is me as well. I wouldn't even be disappointed by such a change... it's still a minor miracle we got 2 with 3 on the way at all.
Bayonetta fans dont look at this and get a hard dick.
We start strutting down the cat walk with the occassional "Yass Queen!" thrown in there.
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To add to this
Bayonetta is one of my top 5 favourite franchises. Having bought both games twice I have something like 60-70hrs in Bayo 2 alone. 4 or so complete playthroughs with a dozen or so hours in Tag Climax destroying casuals who dont know how to dodge offset
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Bayonetta is one of my top 5 favourite franchises. Having bought both games twice I have something like 60-70hrs in Bayo 2 alone. 4 or so complete playthroughs with a dozen or so hours in Tag Climax destroying casuals who dont know how to dodge offset
#gAmER
I would welcome you to join the discussion of this in the Women Sexualization designs OT. There are good number of women over here who are not fine with Bayonetta's game design. They get the same people everyday there "I have a girlfriend and she's completely fine with this design". Well she doesn't speak for the rest of the women who are not fine in the slightest.
The entire thing about her personality is that bayo is in direct control of her sexuality and often wields it as a weapon. Removing this would just be undermining the character writing they've been doing for years with her and also lets not forget a woman designed Bayonetta.
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I'll pass. They dont speak for all the women that are fine with it. Those are completely fine excuses especially if the girlfriend likes it as well. Some women prefer to express themselves some dont some in between. I know my current girlfriend goes to the club sometimes and I be giving her the eye I but dont say nothing. Shes free to think, wear and feel how she wants.
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Completely agree, it's definitely sexual, but I would not under any circumstance call any of that stuff sexy.
Glad era chose right in this poll. Should be more on the No side, but this is better than I expected tbh
