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NPD Oct 2018: COD: BO4 and RDR2 top the charts, PS4 best selling hardware
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How can you say this? Is there data available that showed this?
We have insiders on this forum who provide this type of information regularly.
Yeah, the line between accessories and hardware seems a little bit blurry here, but at least there's no confusion between software and accesso...
...OH NO!!
Surely these insiders can't see total sales, rather a small slice of the pie?
I'm not including Mat Piscatella since he is a known NPD employee.
Yes. Like Wii Fit and Wii Play, if an accessory is bundled with a game disc/cart the total spend is allocated to the game.
It was a joke.
Wait huh? xbox has been up YoY most months. more than ps4 although i'm a month or two behind on that calculation so it may have changed
Depends.
I can see nation wide sell throug data. A lot of it.
Of course no one can see the entire picture. Literally the only time that becomes visible to anyone is when all data is compiled and released per NPD.
But its not like my visibility to the market is exactly small.
Monster hunter world has sold more YTD than madden in the states?
Wow......that is mighty impressive
Wow......that is mighty impressive
No PC sales recorded and being in the market for half the time Monster Hunter's been out would factor into that probably.
The simple fact we are even comparing Monster Hunter to Madden in US is crazy enough.
Even that's missing digital sales on Nintendo platforms. Which these days is a decent piece to be missing (at least compared to their last platform).
They didn't underestimate demand they just set aside a limited number. They knew the popularity of the price based on last years sell outs. They are reducing promotional costs. It's stated on the outlook through end of fiscal year in the Q3 docs
Benji are you staying with us from now on? I remember you wanted to move to Twitter. Crazy to get this much insider knowledge. Wish I could be you.
I'm really active on Twitter as well, but yeah I'm sticking around Era. I don't think I could ever really leave, even when people upset me or stress me out.
At the end of the day I'm always glad to be a part of the sales community and give back what I can
I can understand, some of this stuff just gets toxic. Those of us who don't comment much really appreciate the work you do. All of the insiders. I really don't get it. Things escalate so damn fast. You'll see one post praising the work outside of work you do, just for the interest of the community, and then the next calling you a liar, threatening to out you and by extension your livelihood, going from one to a billion in a heartbeat.
Internet really sucks sometimes.
Sane datanerds love you guys though!!!
Just know that despite a few fools, most of us love and appreciate what you give back to this forum. Thanks for everything! Also hope fatherhood is awesome so far for you!
We very much appreciate you being around and sharing what data you can :)
+1
It cannot be said enough. Thanks much to both yourself and Mat! Many of us check-in/lurk regularly for your insights!
Yep, I appreciate all the insider people and everyone who gives thoughtful discussion/analytics. I'm a big fan of numbers and data but I don't post a whole lot, especially in the middle of the day in a busy thread, as my work can rip me away for hours at a time into a sterile room where I can't have my phone.
The power of being on consoles and PC.
Imagine if Capcom took us serious years ago.
Going highest first month revenue for Pokémon!(?)
P.S. i cannot thank you, Benji and Deader2818 enough for what you do and for persisting here in the face of adversity. So grateful for all you guys do
That's an amazing news, you'll be always welcome for most of us. :)
You are literally the reason I regularly check the NPD and NPD prediction threads. Your insights are invaluable in an industry that is nontransparent about numbers. Much appreciated!
Maybe I'm treading where I'm not supposed to but, that data you see only pertains to one chain right (I know the chain but of course I wont say it)?
So yeah a big slice but not the whole picture, if my surmising is correct.
The answer is probably negative, but has LABO benefitted from the apparent increase in family spending?
Put this in the other thread but I'm kinda disappointed Nintendo hasn't been marketing Labo more. I've been one of the people saying holidays is where it's performance will really matter but they don't seem to be pushing it like I thought they would. All focus is really on Smash and Pokémon.
They will have known that they could have shipped much more for Black Friday based on last year's performance (similar performance with a worse deal and also fast sellouts). The leading theory is that they didn't want to ship more than they have because it eats into profit when you discount by more than $100. People who only buy the system only for such bargain prices are probably also less likely to buy tons of software, so it's a gamble as to whether selling at this price with unlimited quantities brings in the wished-for profits, I think.
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just like mistletoe, sleighbells and the smell of freshly baken cookies, call of duty is an important part of the american christmas tradition. those who care about their beloved ones will help to push the ps4 well above a million.
Think so, BLOPS4 is a bigger bundle game than BF2. I think they could to the number they dif last December or somewhat higher, maybe 1.1-1.2 million.
I think they will hit 1 million regardless of the bundles they have in December.
For the whole month? Then they would do 1.3-1.5 million.
Probably, if not more.
Last year they only did a $50 off on PS4pro and PSVR bundles in December afaik, and they still hit 1m.
If they get the COD (and maybe another more family friendly one) bundle at $249 for a week before Xmas and advertise it, they should have a nice December.
Now IF they are thirsty for more MAU and decide to go $199 for 1 week, with enough stock, sky's the limit (but December is generally not as price sensitive, so it might be leaving $ on the table in the end).
I think it's time for everyone to agree that it bombed/failed. It had no legs since launch, and struggled to sell through the initial shipments. Retailers are not going to give up coveted shelf space during the holidays for a poor selling larger box item. You're not going to have that kind holiday item performance without a solid sales and interest footing to begin with.
Benji mentioned earlier not being able to provide much insight into Cyber Monday sales. I might've misunderstood.
That is a bad deal for December, even more so compared to last year's deal of carrying Black Friday week price cuts through the whole month.
Last year the cheapest bundles were $229 (the standalone model was $189). $249 isn't going to be moving much when they have offered the same price or lower since 2016 in addition to Sony dropping the Black Ops 4 bundle to $249.
The slim did go down to $249 the week before Christmas. It's the only reason PS4 hit over 1M in December.
Funny I thought I remembered that and when doing a google search I couldn't find the announcement.
Fully expecting Sony to go $249 with the Slim again this year though.
Deader2818 Welfare Elandyll By the way, does anyone have the source on the Xbox $50 off in December deal?