Unless you are like me who really wants Ridge racer type 4 and metal gear solid and doesn't want to pay over $300 for them.
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Playstation Classic confirmed to have PAL and therefore 50hz games in the line-up (including Tekken)
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Unless you are like me who really wants Ridge racer type 4 and metal gear solid and doesn't want to pay over $300 for them.
I'd pull back a bit if you think this thing isn't selling tons.
Unless this is sarcasm in which case:
This thing is doa.
If you're interested in PS1 games and aren't owning PSTV yet, you better act fast and buy it now. The price is rising day by day.
If you're interested in PS1 games and aren't owning PSTV yet, you better act fast and buy it now. The price is rising day by day.
Also a good one, from the playstation website:
Neither Kazuya nor Jun are in Tekken 3 lmao
LMAO
This whole thing is a pretty bad joke.
Ok that is fucking amazing lmao!Also a good one, from the playstation website:
Neither Kazuya nor Jun are in Tekken 3 lmao
I was ...
Excited with PS Classic announcement with 5 initial game line up
Fine with PS Classic not including power adapter
Ok with PS Classic coming with original non-analog controllers
Disappointed with PS Classic running open-source emulator and dismal final game line up
Yet I kept the preorder. Until today.
This just cannot do. Preorder cancelled. Good job, Sony.
Excited with PS Classic announcement with 5 initial game line up
Fine with PS Classic not including power adapter
Ok with PS Classic coming with original non-analog controllers
Disappointed with PS Classic running open-source emulator and dismal final game line up
Yet I kept the preorder. Until today.
This just cannot do. Preorder cancelled. Good job, Sony.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and sying that it's likely not going to sell as many as people think it will. Word of mouth is important for those consoles and it's not having a good one so far. It's launching next week and it doesn't look like it will.
I need to know expectations from the people thinking it will fail otherwise this is just going to be a moving goalpost situation. Will totally eat crow if it craters though.
This video makes me feel sad for Pal gamers. That shit looks like it'd suck to play.
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Much, much lower than NES Classic & SNES Classic basically.
i don't know, you tell me
wow i can't believe you're an opera fellow as well
I'm sure it will still sell lots, but man this thing is a disappointment.
-You could literally fill like 5 minis with the number of great games the system had, but instead they give us mostly crap
-Cheapening out on the controller so no dualshock
-Literally the worst versions of some games
So glad I cancelled and will just stick with my PSTV
-You could literally fill like 5 minis with the number of great games the system had, but instead they give us mostly crap
-Cheapening out on the controller so no dualshock
-Literally the worst versions of some games
So glad I cancelled and will just stick with my PSTV
i doubt sony will ever officially give numbers for the system, if that's a measure of success. people will have to figure out how much it sold by doing detective work.
and i don't think sony really has high expectations for this either, or hope of doing more of this kind of hardware. they just saw nintendo making some buck with classic consoles and thought they'd do a little something for the holidays too.
I've got a PSTV but the power seems to be long gone. It being so niche there aren't any replacements online either.
Ah, well. Not like I ever used it much anyway.
Terrible, PAL was a blight to us and ruined so many great games. I genuinely thought those days were over, I haven't played a 50hz game since 2006.
no way. the system is already running half the games at 60hz, there's nothing special about tekken 3.
you can run ps1 games on SNES classic?!!!
That's because objectively pepsiman is better than a fourth of these games ;)
I'm curious if this will affect sales in the larger scheme of things. My gut says no, but I can see a situation where people play it and go "Why does this play like shit? I don't remember it being like this!"
I had that reaction to playing Sonic on Virtual Console - As an avid emulation user I had played the proper version, but I didn't understand the distinction between PAL and NTSC - but even then, as soon as I booted it up I knew something was horrifically wrong.
I had that reaction to playing Sonic on Virtual Console - As an avid emulation user I had played the proper version, but I didn't understand the distinction between PAL and NTSC - but even then, as soon as I booted it up I knew something was horrifically wrong.
I'd pull back a bit if you think this thing isn't selling tons.
Unless this is sarcasm in which case:
I bet it has a great launch month before everyone forgets it ever existed.
The list of games was already disappointing and I did not intend to purchase one, but seeing how hard Sony dropped the ball on this, I now fully wish this product to fail hard.
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It's not the same as the difference between 50fps and 60fps. It means your 50hz game is running 16.7% slower than a 60hz one. Everything is running slower, from the animations to the music.
50Hz is borderline unplayable for certain games, and I'm not even being hyperbolic here.
Just a small qualifier here - that's only for games with fixed time-step. While it was a lot less common then - a share of software did still run at variable time-step, so 50hz would simply operate at the right internal tick - no slow-down or skipping involved.
Fighting games are generally the most problematic since some still used fixed-time step even after PS2 generation. Though during PS2 gen, most games adapted, so 50/60hz "conversion" really was just changing the time-step (+output resolution).
It's not just a difference in framerate. It is a difference in speed. I strongly suggest watching the video posted by Lord Kano as a quick starter to understanding the problems with using PAL versions of these games.
it's not the same as your average pc game running at 50 or 60 fps. in that case the game is running at the same speed but just fewer frames of the action are being shown in a second. for pal games, being 50 fps means the game is showing the same frames, just at a slower pace, so the game runs and feels slower.
most likely, yeah
it's $100 for something that isn't all that appealing
To put it simply, PAL versions are sluggish as fuck, especially when they were lazily converted. (...Which was pretty much always, unfortunately)
This video helpfully illustrates. They weren't always this bad, but it's certainly not a cherrypicked example.
Oh yeah, and the resolution is all screwed up as well.
Not to mention that a game like Tekken 3 could absolutely be killed by a 10fps drop.