I think that one week of going ballistic will be more than enough to put the PS4 ahead.
Still props to Switch for being far closer than many predicted.
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NPD Oct 2018: COD: BO4 and RDR2 top the charts, PS4 best selling hardware
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Still props to Switch for being far closer than many predicted.
Nah I'm pretty confident PS4 will be no1 hardware for November unless Cyber Monday was huge for Switch hardware.
It's just not going to be the enormous gap we saw last year.
Switch outperformed PS4 all month long last November until the Sunday before BF and Sony wiped out Nintendo's lead in a single day.
So you're saying they understimated how much they could sell in BF because the console sold out? I already answered that in my first reply.
can't people stop be so needlessly aggressive at other people's predictions no matter what they think of it
well...that's a good point, but it also depends on how much sony shipped this month. And we also cant forget the critical aspect of Switch no longer having the shortages which was affecting pretty much everything last year.
i am merely saying that if they wanted to sell more, they likely could have if that was their goal and they had the foresight to ship more.
yeah, I don't think it's going to be the blowout like we saw last year. Just saying that BF week makes up the vast majority of hardware sales this month.
we cant forget cyber monday though, which according to the online retailer trends switch won handily
Cyber Monday should be pretty big for Switch, yeah . Hopefully Benji can give us some info soon!
Well with that RDR2 bundle selling out in minutes of it going live at 12am. It's going to be tough to sell a $300 console verses $199 with one of the hottest fall games. The fact more people are doing the gamestop Cyber monday deal with the giftcard, and $25 Estore voucher shows how much stock they still have and got for the holiday season. Pokemon is helping them sell a lot of those for sure. But until Smash comes out I feel November is Sony's month.
Unless Sony fell short in what they wanted to ship.
Honestly I wont have much visibility to what happens on CM so no updates will happen on that from me
They could have sold more if they wanted, they could have made all PS4 SKUs $199 if all they cared about is to sell as much as they can but that's not the case obviously.
Yeah so far I'm seeing more Switch deals for Cyber Monday than PS4 but I could easily be missing some. Cyber Monday was counted for December of last year's NPD IIRC so is it possible that could skew December sales down a bit (relatively speaking) this year, or was it just a relatively small chunk of last year's December sales?
I'd imagine PSVR is tracked separately from PS4 hardware, unless it's a bundle with both.
I'd imagine PSVR is tracked separately from PS4 hardware, unless it's a bundle with both.
I expect something the week before Xmas for the PS4 Slim (Xbox 1S both before and after, like last year), but either $249 or $199, depending how hungry Sony will be for sales.
Was PS4 ahead of last year before BF? Seems to me like it would be with the RDR2 effect lingering and it bundled free in the Pro.
Christmas, Pokemon and Smash Bros. It would be a surprise on a Brexit-level if Nintendo didn't take this December.
On a personal note, the last time I was this excited for a Nintendo release was Brawl on Wii, and RE 4 on GC as a timed-exclusive (though we didn't know that back then). I cannot wait for next week.
On a personal note, the last time I was this excited for a Nintendo release was Brawl on Wii, and RE 4 on GC as a timed-exclusive (though we didn't know that back then). I cannot wait for next week.
I'm curious about cyber Monday as well, but I don't remember such good Switch deals so not sure how useful knowing how it did last year is.
As to PSVR, it has its own games, that's why I'm unclear how it's tracked. How were things like the Sega CD tracked?
its also strange to me how Xbox could be flat when the X came out last year...did the userbase who was buying the X just eat the S users? Its like the exact opposite of the Pro and base PS4
Hey Benji and ZhugeEX I've been wondering something for a while now.
Has there been any sort or correlation between games in a yearly (or close) franchise, where blowing up in anticipation and sales, then the next iteration not being as popular due to exhaustion? An example being Battlefield 1 --> BF5 or AC Unity --> Syndicate.
Then after a couple years from the popular game, another big game builds up anticipation again after a few years or so after the series went more low key. AC Syndicate --> AC Origins or Battlefield Hardline --> BF1 as examples.
Is there any correlation or pattern with these up and down curves? Where big sales lead to a cooldown era for the franchise, then after a break of recovery people get excited again, leading to another big entry? Or is it just conjecture or coincidence with some series due to circumstances? Thanks.
Has there been any sort or correlation between games in a yearly (or close) franchise, where blowing up in anticipation and sales, then the next iteration not being as popular due to exhaustion? An example being Battlefield 1 --> BF5 or AC Unity --> Syndicate.
Then after a couple years from the popular game, another big game builds up anticipation again after a few years or so after the series went more low key. AC Syndicate --> AC Origins or Battlefield Hardline --> BF1 as examples.
Is there any correlation or pattern with these up and down curves? Where big sales lead to a cooldown era for the franchise, then after a break of recovery people get excited again, leading to another big entry? Or is it just conjecture or coincidence with some series due to circumstances? Thanks.
PSVR hardware is tracked as part of our VR reporting within our Tech group. However, PSVR spend is included within reported spend under the Accessories and Gamecards bucket within the monthly media release. And were the sales ever notable/meaningful to the story of a month, I would note that performance as part of accessories spend.
Games for PSVR are reported with all the other gaming software, no differences.
It's easy to beat when it's a single retailer with only like 400 of those in stock.
Thanks! It's what I assumed, but I hope you understand my confusion since it's the price of new hardware and has its own software.
They are all going to sell a lot. Whether or not some of them are down YoY is a possibility depending on the outcome of CM.
Switch will be by far the most impressive in terms of performance this year in comparison to last year
Blops4 is not BF5 fortunately
honestly, Blops had a few days more than RDR. This might already solve this riddle.
That's surprising to me being that last year had many big hitting duds and no free game bundled. Interesting.
I'm not sure what's surprising.
Last year had COD WW2 launch, the COD WW2 bundle, SW BF2, and the BF2 bundle.
This year had nothing for PS4 prior to BF.
Software is messier than hardware this Nov as well. COD shifting from Nov to Oct is going to wreak havoc with the comps. Even with a massive Pokemon launch (if it is so) it's a huge ask to try to comp to a COD launch month without a new COD.
If PS4 without any amazing deal can win UK then it can do pretty well with the amazing Spider-Man bundle in the USA.
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Maybe try a pseudo-compare and swap COD and BFV data for Oct and Nov.
http://exploreadobe.com/retail-shopping-insights/
According to adobe analytics Pokemon and God of War were among the top 5 selling products on Black Friday and the Switch was the best selling product on thanksgiving.
Nintendo Switch and RDR2 also placed in the top 5 the day after black friday.
Not sure how accurate Adobe Analytics is but it's at least worth noting (or is it? :P)
According to adobe analytics Pokemon and God of War were among the top 5 selling products on Black Friday and the Switch was the best selling product on thanksgiving.
Nintendo Switch and RDR2 also placed in the top 5 the day after black friday.
Not sure how accurate Adobe Analytics is but it's at least worth noting (or is it? :P)
Is the confusion due to VR non-exclusives making it difficult to pick what to count sales against or some other reason?
Anyway I guess Sony considers it all PS4 SW umbrella in their quarterly reports too, so it's not without precedent.
It wasn't accurate at all last year. They seem to sample online sales while the vast majority of Black Friday sales still happen in store. So their data is very skewed.
Will the Pokemon + Pokeball bundles count fully towards the software total revenue wise? And what about Mario Party + Joycons? I think that might help a tiny bit when it comes to comparing revenue vs last November.
Black Ops had a whole two weeks on RDR, not just a few days.
But UK is by far the worst Nintendo market. Honestly i'm surprised PS4 and Switch are close in UK...