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Wkd Box Office - 11•23-25•18 - Ralph and Creed lead a record Thanksgiving weekend. Robin Hood bombs.
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I don't know what it is about English folklore/myths, but Hollywood just cannot do a decent adaptation of Robin Hood or King Arthur.
Oo-de-laly?
But wouldn't every animal be CG though?
And great to see Ralph and Creed doing well!
Venom is one of my favorite Marvel characters and I'm even a huge Tom Hardy fan, and I also love MCU. This movie was utter trash though. I'm glad it did the money it did as we might get a good sequel some day. Honestly, Venom was even worse than Andrew Garfield Spider-Man bullshit. There was nothing solid in this movie, everything was laughable.
Seriously. Fantastically paced and directed, though that Rodriguez scene was just...awful
Which one are you referring to?
One comment I had in praise of the movie was the ability for subplots in the movie to properly manifest themselves without being half-baked. The movie was so layered I would have loved to see it as a miniseries a-la Big Little Lies on HBO.
I know this was Steve McQueen's passion project, and it definitely showed.
Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2 are some of my all time favorite games and I'll be first to say they are absolute trash fires but I love the dumb little shits.
The one where she tries conning the architect's husband for the blueprints but breaks down once she realizes he's also widowed. I thought she was faking it the entire time, but that actually was her unable to maintain her composure.
No more Robin Hood movies. Unless it's a remake of the Disney one with the furries or a remake of Men in Tights.
You mean, thank Fox for X-Men.
You mean thank New Line for Blade.
Avi also worked on that. Funnily enough Blade has 54% on Rotten Tomato. Imagine it being released today.
Slayven wasn't saying that Marvel Studios created popular superhero films. He said Marvel Studios is responsible for the current market of superhero films. He's correct. The original Avengers changed the entire landscape.
That's true but these things don't occur in isolation. Super hero films had been in the popular culture and popular for decades before marvel managed to hit the critical mass. It's very much arguable to say Marvel wouldn't been able to achieve what it did popularity wise without the mind share created for super hero movies in the international market by the preceding films.
International market being key as that's marvels greatest strength and the market that most benefited in the visibility of super heroes by the previous movies.
That's absolutely correct.
People didn't think that the MCU would fail because it was comicbooks, they thought it would fail because Ironman, Cap, Thor, were all literally also ran 3rd tier characters with all of the relevant Marvel properties being with Sony and Fox. Heck Avengers wasn't even very relevant within comics before Avengers 1. It was 'DC has the Justice League and Marvel has to have something, there's this team called the Avengers'. It was never a big seller.
The movie certainly changed the playing field, but it was really Sam Riami Spider-Man, X-Men, and way before that the success of Batman, and Superman, that brought it all to that point.
And the explosion of the international market does get overlooked.
People didn't think that the MCU would fail because it was comicbooks, they thought it would fail because Ironman, Cap, Thor, were all literally also ran 3rd tier characters with all of the relevant Marvel properties being with Sony and Fox. Heck Avengers wasn't even very relevant within comics before Avengers 1. It was 'DC has the Justice League and Marvel has to have something, there's this team called the Avengers'. It was never a big seller.
The movie certainly changed the playing field, but it was really Sam Riami Spider-Man, X-Men, and way before that the success of Batman, and Superman, that brought it all to that point.
And the explosion of the international market does get overlooked.
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I don't see Sony renewing partnering with Disney /Marvel unless they give them more money or something
A Spider-Man vs Venom movie will do numbers
I was never a Creed fan so I don't really care about the film
A Spider-Man vs Venom movie will do numbers
I was never a Creed fan so I don't really care about the film
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The timeline in this post doesn't really match up. The transition away from the X-Men and towards the Avengers in comics happened many years before Avengers 1. Marvel started prepping for self-financed movie productions in 2004, and Marvel Comics transitioned to reflect that. Avengers Disassembled was summer 2004, New Avengers and House of M were 2005, and Civil War was 2006. Marvel Comics has been Avengers focused since. Avengers and Spider-man have generally been the best selling titles for much of that time. Especially in the years leading up to Iron Man 1.
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Oh the transition was underway, they were quite ready to go with a million Avengers tie ins were not anything in comparison with other marvel properties and went through the stratosphere after the movie. It took a while for Avengers Mania to wear off after the first film.
House of M was an X-Men story with Marvel U scope not an Avengers story in any way aside from the tie to Wanda.
The only Avengers story you've mentioned is Avengers disassembled literally disassembling the team and was not well liked at the time or in retrospect. It's sales weren't great for an event series either.
Civil War was not an Avengers story but the big U Marvel event at the time. It happened to include characters who were a part of the Avengers as is natural to a Marvel U event.
The Illuminati has been more primary than the avengers (as an organizational entity) even in most event stories since the first film.
Hulk and Iron Man were 2008, but just because Marvel was pushing these characters and shifting away from the X-Men doesn't mean that there wasn't a lot of doubt for their actual viability in working on the big screen under this shared universe initiative, especially when Marvels most popular characters where at other studios.
Don't forget that after Disassembled? It was New Avengers, featuring virtually none of the classic Avengers and the addition of Spider Man and Wolverine. The two characters you'd throw at a book to try and make it sell. Historically speaking Solo sales for most of the traditional Avengers weren't awesome, particularly thought the 90s and early 2000s.
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Someone explain.
(Is this about the movie going to netflix and Cuaron re-shot some scenes?)
So Netflix released Roma in a limited run in theatres, and supposedly it did really well:
Now this number comes via Deadline, and maths isn't their strong point. But if this is the ballpark we're talking then I don't get why Netflix isn't bragging, that would be an incredible launch for an arthouse type film not in the English language. I don't know if it's their usual shtick of "we don't give out numbers", but this would show that there is plenty of reason for cinemas to work with them.
Now this number comes via Deadline, and maths isn't their strong point. But if this is the ballpark we're talking then I don't get why Netflix isn't bragging, that would be an incredible launch for an arthouse type film not in the English language. I don't know if it's their usual shtick of "we don't give out numbers", but this would show that there is plenty of reason for cinemas to work with them.
Still bugs me how little credit blade get, even from the hollywood mags. "Deadpool first rated R marvel movie" uhm Blade. "Blackpanther first POC to lead in a super hero movie" uhm, Blade. Like seriously, what the fuck? Lol
Spawn is gonna give him a win.
No, that's not a joke.
OK, maybe it is. But who knows nowadays.
For like 2 more weeks until it's pulled from all its theaters yeah
The US drop from the first one will probably be about $60-70m when all is said and done, which is sizable
WW probably around $150m if not more
Not a bomb, but a big disappointment. The real headache is FB3, if that one declines like this one? Oof
Where "The Hood" as he is called wears an actual hoodie, and the Crusades are compared to the Iraq War...
Its Transformers all over again, except this time China won't save the day and pick up the slack.
And the sheriff's deputies are dressed like modern SWAT team with the bullet shields and all.
Just got out of Ralph Breaks The Internet.
Holy crap that was good. Just as good as the first one.
It had everything: hilarity, wholesomeness and emotion, just fantastic.
This is how you do a sequel.
Holy crap that was good. Just as good as the first one.
It had everything: hilarity, wholesomeness and emotion, just fantastic.
This is how you do a sequel.
Robin Hood bombed? I'm shocked.
Anyway see you in another couple of years when they try and make another Robin Hood film.
Anyway see you in another couple of years when they try and make another Robin Hood film.
I think with BP it was also the first superhero movie with mostly POC leads, from POC screenwriters and a POC director.
Your point is absolutely correct. But that's not what the headlines were saying
People typically don't call things they enjoy bad.
Pretty simple, fam.
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