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Kilbane65

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Oct 27, 2017
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This is why smart companies do a timed verification process. If the email (or phone) isn't verified after a set amount of time, usually 2 or 3 days max, the whole registration is undone, and that person can try again anew.
Epic really should use this.
 

Cynn

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Oct 27, 2017
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There's some good deals of Xboxes right now.
 

Cynn

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Oct 27, 2017
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What does this have to do with anything
It has to do with solving the problem of his kid playing Fortnite. Seeing how the PSN account is in lockdown and I doubt he wants all of his trophies and saves thrown away by creating a new PSN he could get a cheap holiday priced Xbox and set his kid up there to play Fortnite via his old Epic account.

Unless it's not his Epic account he cares about but instead PSN purchases. Those are likely toast.
 

cooldawn

Member
Oct 28, 2017
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Did it never occur to EPIC that this may eventually result in a permanent ban? They should have told you (unless they did not think you are a genuine account holder).
 

angel

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Oct 27, 2017
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Took me 2 weeks for Sony to let me fix an email typo, and even that was the phone rep breaking the rules to tell me my typo.
 

shinken

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Oct 27, 2017
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The weird thing is, that you didn't had to verify your email address when signing up for an Epic account.

I have several email addresses and they are all programmed onto my G-buttons on my Logitech keyboard. That way I will never make a typo while registering for an account or just signing in.
 

MrKlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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If you know the typo, could try emailing them and seeing if they'd help you log in and change it back? Bit of a Hail Mary
 

Jawmuncher

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can feel for OP. The account management is definitely odd. Especially if you had accounts linked to different emails before cross play happened. Even I was getting a bit confused on how I had to unlink and then relink.
 

Shadow

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Oct 28, 2017
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I did this to my brother's account. Made a typo, but luckily caught it very early and just made a new epic acc. This was on PC back in 2017.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I hope I haven't missed this, but have you tried reaching out via Twitter? Maybe a quick tweet to a human explaining the situation might help?
 

totowhoa

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Oct 25, 2017
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It looks like the email pattern for Epic is [email protected]

I would get on LinkedIn and find the appropriate people to email directly about this and see if you can get any traction that way. Because this sounds ridiculous. I work for a software company and not having a process that protects against email sign ups with typos is laughable.

They should be able to verify your identity and change it
 

Rainer516

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Oct 29, 2017
983
I feel bad for the kid. I was wondering if this whole ordeal is the modern equivalent of "loved one/family member accidentally deletes save file on cartridge", but honestly, I think this is much worse.
 

zou

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Oct 29, 2017
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Wait, how did you create the Fortnite account with the typo email in the first place? Don't you have to verify the email when you first create the account?

If you start playing on consoles, it pulls all information from your psn/live account. you can then login/signup on the website using psn or live as the auth provider. you can then enter an email address manually, but once you save it, nothing can be changed until it's been verified. it's not even asking you to confirm the email by typing it twice. so yeah, this is all on epic and it's unbelievably idiotic.

and this has nothing to do with PSN, the same could have happened to me last week when I registered my xbox live account for crossplay.
 
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Barrel Cannon

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Oct 25, 2017
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That sucks man. I remember losing my original Xbox live account login details as a kid and never being able to login again. I was bummed out about it. Life went on though. The one positive thing is it's just Fortnite that was effected and not multiple games. I sort of see why Epic can't move on their security stance or else people would take advantage of the system for malicious purposes
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I tried to update something but was being prompted to first "verify" the email address on the Epic account. I waited and waited but wasn't receiving the email needed to verify. I then noticed that the email address used to register my son's Fortnite account had a small typo in it... whoops, my mistake.

I tried to change the email address, but you cannot do this until it is first "verified". I then tried to un-link his PSN account associated with the account (to link it to one with the correct credentials), but you cannot do this until it is verified either. It's not possible to verify an email that's wrong, obviously. I tried to then register the typo'd email address on gmail - but it's already taken. It's also impossible to link a PSN account to more than one Epic account.

The only thing left to do was to reach out to Epic's support. I submitted a ticket and asked for them to modify the email address with the typo for me and submitted tons of verification that I was the account holder (IP addresses, billing information, account creation dates etc) and immediately got an email back --- "changing the registered email address is not supported at this time".

What?

I replied to the email and requested that the PSN account associated with this Epic account be "un-linked", so I could link it to the right email address, and have the account with the wrong email closed. I didn't think this would be a problem as it's something that you can do easily on their website (when verified).

I never got an email back, but I tried to log in again with the same Epic account and I got an error that the account was now "Inactive". When I tried to manually "link" the PSN account to the correct email address, it says the "PSN account is associated to another Epic account"... well, the Epic account it is associated to is now closed and this is apparently irreversible. Firing up Fortnite on the PS4 gives a message that the account is inactive and log-in has failed.

I sent of a third email explaining and was told that it was "impossible to change due to security concerns".

So here I am - tried to update my son's Fortnite account to have the correct information and he has been essentially been permanently banned because of it. Only option now would be to abandon his PSN account and create a new one, losing all progress and stuff and he's pretty devastated :(

For a game aimed at younger people, the account management and technical support is confusing and limited.
Better bust out the credit card
 
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BadHand

BadHand

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Oct 25, 2017
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A rep responded this morning to the second ticket I sent in - says that he can't help me while another agent is assigned to a similar ticket. I also got a response from the original agent: "If you want to continue playing on this platform, please reconnect your PSN ID to the Epic account." - too bad he has forgotten that he closed the Epic account... and that the PSN ID is actually still connected to it, and that is the problem.

I did send a tweet off to a developer I found, think it was the technical lead. Haven't had a response yet. Maybe the next step is the reddit post some were suggesting.

I can feel for OP. The account management is definitely odd. Especially if you had accounts linked to different emails before cross play happened. Even I was getting a bit confused on how I had to unlink and then relink.

The PSN was the only account ever registered to the Epic account and his PSN has the correct email. he has never registered any other platforms. I'm still not 100% on how the whole thing works - the only thing I'm really worried about now is "unlinking" his PSN account from the Epic account they closed. Until that is done he's essentially been banned from playing Fortnite on his PSN account.

Signing up and paying for PSN should be all you need to do.

This was my assumption at the time. I've never had to create a Mojang account for him to play minecraft with his pals. I've really not paid much attention to Fortnite or took the time to understand how it all works.
 
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deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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Someone with a better understanding of this should confirm what I'm saying before you take it as true, but: isn't unlinking the PSN account a bad idea?

I remember that, before they caved on cross-play, part of the problem was that unlinking your PSN account wiped all your progress/items (and you still couldn't do cross-play). Did that change once they changed their stance?
 

Pancakes R Us

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm surprised you can create an account without verifying the email first, anyways this is bullshit, did you spent money on it ? there is no good reason for them to close your account like that while your providing all the info proving you are the owner, it make no sense. Try to contact them via phone or keep sending ticket, you could also try creating a post on the subreddit with the same title, there is a lot of epic worker over there.
This is an issue with Epic and even Spotify. They don't do e-mail verification. I received so many e-mails this year about failed sign-ins and password resets for an Epic account, even though I've never played an Epic game or have any interest in Fortnite. I kept contacting them to remove my e-mail address but they just kept sending me crappy automated responses and were really slow. I eventually ended up threatening to report them for breach of GDPR and eventually they suspended the account associated with my e-mail address.

Similar issue with Spotify, someone signed up using my e-mail address. Their support team was very helping in resolving this.

Why neither of this companies use e-mail verification in 2018 is beyond me.
 
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BadHand

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Oct 25, 2017
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I got a post up on Reddit this morning, but the general advice so far is that Epic has terrible customer service, they blanket deny support requests to make the workload manageable and the only thing I can do is make a new PSN account to play Fortnite.

EDIT: Now they removed the post; Rule #8 Account Support Posts are Not Allowed.
 
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BadHand

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FYI, I wrote about your problem and emailed Epic Games PR: https://mp1st.com/news/parent-gets-...just-by-trying-to-update-the-registered-email

I got a reply saying it got routed to Nick, who's the senior PR manager. Once I know more, I'll PM you or post here. :)

I'm really grateful to you for doing this - my son is feeling a bit better today. We did toss around the idea of getting him another PSN account just for Fortnite, this would mean him switching back and forth accounts though and seems a bit of a nightmare. Obviously better than having no access whatsoever.

The support guy who originally disabled the account has emailed back again - he asked for the same verification information that I already emailed to him, so I'm not confident the issue is gonna be solved this time around but you never know.

If you don't mind, I'm gonna PM you my email address and that way if that PR gets in touch you can pass it along?
 

Kasai

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Jan 24, 2018
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Welcome to my hell

My Save the World account was hacked, and they spent all my V-bucks. I haven't been able to access the email the account is attached to, because it was hit in the 2016 yahoo hacks.

They weren't able to help me at all, and it sucks so much.
 

Jimrpg

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Oct 26, 2017
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I don't play fortnite but I'll be watching this thread. Hope you get it fixed. If not take your son out for hot dogs and ice cream and remember there's fun in starting games again too.
 

antitrop

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't play fortnite but I'll be watching this thread. Hope you get it fixed. If not take your son out for hot dogs and ice cream and remember there's fun in starting games again too.
The thing with Fortnite is that a lot of items can't be gotten again. Either because they were part of a previous season's battle pass or Epic just never put them back in the shop rotation. It's part of making them seem valuable.

Losing the account like that really sucks.
 

KcebAnier

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Oct 29, 2017
257
That's a really bad outcome. This might sound messed up, but if you want any hope of this being fixed, you should tweet a real sad message from your son to the game, the developers and Sony.

I guarentee you the problem can be fixed, but Customer Service wont do it without someone who matters telling them to.
 

LunaSerena

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Oct 25, 2017
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This sucks, I hope the situation is able to be resolved OP.
Epic really needs to step up on their customer service.
 
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BadHand

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Oct 25, 2017
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A good update to end the night on - I just got an email from support saying they have reversed the suspension on the account, they even apologized for the inconvenience! My kid is very happy.

Many thanks to everyone who had input, helped and gave some solid advice.

Unfortunately, it was explained that changing the email address typo is impossible due to some sort of technical limitations - so I'm back to square one in this regard and stuck with someone elses email registered to the account (which must suck for them). I don't plan on trying to get this fixed anymore given the risks... it doesn't seem to affect the game itself and only prevents me from managing/changing the account information.

It might not be the best customer service, but at least they're working sundays evenings. Best of all I can stop feeling guilty as hell!
 

HellBlazer

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Oct 26, 2017
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A good update to end the night on - I just got an email from support saying they have reversed the suspension on the account, they even apologized for the inconvenience! My kid is very happy.

Many thanks to everyone who had input, helped and gave some solid advice.

Unfortunately, it was explained that changing the email address typo is impossible due to some sort of technical limitations - so I'm back to square one in this regard and stuck with someone elses email registered to the account (which must suck for them). I don't plan on trying to get this fixed anymore given the risks... it doesn't seem to affect the game itself and only prevents me from managing/changing the account information.

It might not be the best customer service, but at least they're working sundays evenings. Best of all I can stop feeling guilty as hell!

Good to hear! It's completely bizarre that they can't do something as simple as updating an email address, though...
 

ShinySunny

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Dec 15, 2017
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Reading your post, it sounds like you were trying to doing a phishing scam to get into the account.

Did they really perma-ban the account or did they just suspended it to lock the "scammer" out?
 

Kyuur

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Oct 28, 2017
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A good update to end the night on - I just got an email from support saying they have reversed the suspension on the account, they even apologized for the inconvenience! My kid is very happy.

Many thanks to everyone who had input, helped and gave some solid advice.

Unfortunately, it was explained that changing the email address typo is impossible due to some sort of technical limitations - so I'm back to square one in this regard and stuck with someone elses email registered to the account (which must suck for them). I don't plan on trying to get this fixed anymore given the risks... it doesn't seem to affect the game itself and only prevents me from managing/changing the account information.

It might not be the best customer service, but at least they're working sundays evenings. Best of all I can stop feeling guilty as hell!

I just skimmed and couldn't find if you tried, but is the typo email actually registered? If it's just a gmail or something, you could try actually signing up for that email?
 

dom

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Oct 25, 2017
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There's supposed to be account merging coming later. Maybe then you might be able to merge the psn and purchases on the epic account to a different epic account.
 

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Glad to hear it's worked out for you OP, atleast partially. But seeing Epic's weird infrastructure backend...did they happen to help Sony set up PSN back in the day? Lol
 

Drain You

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Oct 27, 2017
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Glad to hear things got a semi resolved for you, especially it being your kids account, I'm sure that was a terrible feeling. Atleast if it was your own you could say oh well, even if it sucked.

excaliburps Also want to chime in that that was very cool of you. I've been in situations where I've run into dead ends with who or how to contact a company usually gave up. So you reaching out really is awesome.
 

Megatron

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Oct 27, 2017
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A good update to end the night on - I just got an email from support saying they have reversed the suspension on the account, they even apologized for the inconvenience! My kid is very happy.

Many thanks to everyone who had input, helped and gave some solid advice.

Unfortunately, it was explained that changing the email address typo is impossible due to some sort of technical limitations - so I'm back to square one in this regard and stuck with someone elses email registered to the account (which must suck for them). I don't plan on trying to get this fixed anymore given the risks... it doesn't seem to affect the game itself and only prevents me from managing/changing the account information.

It might not be the best customer service, but at least they're working sundays evenings. Best of all I can stop feeling guilty as hell!


Well you could still try emailing the person who has the address.
 

Megatron

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Oct 27, 2017
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This is any idea but also a chance I'm not sure I would take. What if the person he emails ends up just taking the account or something. Not sure how all that works, but I always expect the worst from people. I'm quite cynical.

Well he's probably already getting email verification messages from them, so he runs the risk of the guy getting fed up and calling epic and having them close the account.
 

GrrImAFridge

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well you could still try emailing the person who has the address.

Yeah, if the address actually exists and the person who has it isn't a twit, the OP may be able to coordinate with them to change the address associated with the account. Obviously, though, this would come with its own risks. The reason Epic won't help is that the policy governing e-mail address changes requires the user to respond from the address currently associated with the account (I updated mine back in September), and he's made it clear he can't do that.
 
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