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kswiston

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This is ResetEra's weekend box office thread. While the OP focuses on the popular weekend tallies, we typically discuss box office throughout the week as well when notable films are playing. New threads are are posted each Sunday morning, between 8-10am PST.



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'Ralph' Scoring 2nd Best Thanksgiving Debut With $84M+; 'Creed II' $55M+ Live-Action Champ; 'Robin Hood' Goes Wrong At $14M+

While mid-week projections for Disney's Ralph Breaks the Internet and MGM/New Line's Creed II have simmered, that doesn't mean that these movies weren't hot. With $84.5M per Disney, Ralph 2 continues to be the second-best Thanksgiving stretch opener after Disney's own Frozen ($93.5M), and also beating the studio's Moana ($82M), Toy Story 2 ($80.1M), and Coco ($72.9M). Creed II, hands downs, is the best live-action debut the autumn holiday has ever seen with $55.8M, pummeling past Disney's 2007 Enchanted (which had some animation in it, $49M five-day), 2008's Four Christmases, and 2000's Unbreakable (both $46M).

Both films, in addition to great holdovers from Warner Bros.' Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald ($42.9M), Illumination/Universal's The Grinch ($42M) and 20th Century Fox/New Regency/GK Films' Bohemian Rhapsody ($19.3M)and Paramount's Instant Family ($17.4M) drove ticket sales over the Thanksgiving five-day to a record $314M according to ComScore, beating the previous holiday high in 2013 ($294.2M), and surging ahead of last year's $270.3M by 16%. The 2018 domestic box office to date at $10.7 billion is raging 7% ahead of 2016 which ended in a U.S./Canada B.O. record of $11.4B.

The biggest disaster here for the weekend is Lionsgate's near $100M production of Robin Hood, which, at this point in time, is bound to be wounded with a $14.2M five-day take.

If you're Disney, Sony or Warner Bros. this weekend, then you're breathing a sigh of relief. Back in 2014-2015, the town got blazing drunk on the desire to develop another Robin Hood and, at one point, four versions of the classic hero were floating around town, with Disney looking at a Pirates of the Caribbean revisionist take by Brandon Barker (Nottingham & Hood), Sony in love with a pitch from Cory Goodman and Jeremy Lott, and Warner Bros. interested in Aquaman scribe Will Beall's version. Lionsgate put their production into motion the fastest, scooping up Joby Harold's script (He was one of the writers on Warners' King Arthur: Legend of the Sword, and gets an EP credit here) and rival studios backed away, which was a prudent business decision in hindsight for a couple of reasons.

First, moviegoers aren't interested in seeing the same IP from different studios, and the studio that makes it to the screen first is truly the winner, especially if they have the goods. Disney's live-action take of its classic animated title The Jungle Book with Iron Man director Jon Favreau is a hard combination to beat, and the film soaked up close to $1 billion at the global B.O. The success of that film partially created headaches for Warner Bros.' live action Jungle Book film Mowgli from director Andy Serkis, which was delayed greatly after being in production from March 2015 to Oct. 2017. Alfonso Cuaron was called in to to rescue the movie, and Warners wisely decided to forgo any negative box office press on the film by jettisoning the movie to Netflix for a streaming release

Second, rebooting dusty classics is a tricky business, with the uphill creative battle being a tug of war between familiar elements that audiences enjoy about the property, and not completely turning the IP inside out. Recent classic reboots, primed to be event films with exorbitant production costs, failed greatly, i.e. Warners' Pan ($128.3M WW, $150M production cost) and King Arthur ($148.6M WW, $175M prod. cost). The problem with Lionsgate's Robin Hood is that it's too familiar and arriving at cinemas far too soon, eight years after Ridley Scott's Russell Crowe take. That Universal movie at least kept a 19-year space from Morgan Creek's Kevin Costner film ($165.4M domestic, $390.5M WW), so that it could at least appeal to mass moviegoers (the movie opened to $36M, grossed $105.2M domestic, $321.7M global).

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DOMESTIC WEEKEND BOX OFFICE



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WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE UPDATES

Venom - $823M
Bohemian Rhapsody - $472M
Fantastic Beasts 2 - $440M
A Star is Born - $353M
The Grinch - $216M
Ralph Breaks the Internet - $126M
The Nutcracker and the Four Realms - $122M
A Dragon Tattoo Story - $31M
Robin Hood - $23M







Weekend Box Office Archive and Appendix


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Web links to box office resources

Explanation of Box Office Terms, Abbreviations, and Concepts
 

Slayven

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That Fantastic Beast drop during a family movie weekend, holy shit
 

less

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Creed did okay but I hoped for more. :(

Robin Hood is in for a 60% to 70% drop next weekend I imagine.
 

Ithil

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Spider's Web is a spectacular bomb. It flopped on its opening weekend, and looks to fail even a 2.0 multiplier from that.

Nutcracker, too, a major bomb. If it wasn't for Solo it would be the biggest of the year.
 

berzeli

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The Favourite was a bit frontloaded but still is the first film of the year to hit triple digit PTA (unless it gets adjusted down), could end up being the first arthouse Oscar hopeful that does pretty decently at the box office for the year (unless I'm forgetting one, and I probably am).

More like Mediocre Beasts and the Drops of Grindelwald.

I wonder what stung the most for Lionsgate, Robin Hood or Gods of Egypt. Also learning that it shares a screenwriter with King Arthur: Legend of the Sword is so damn amusing to me.

Shoplifters opened pretty well considering what it is and how much Americans hate subtitles.

Honestly I'm kinda stunned by Maria by Callas, it might break a million which I really did not see coming. I thought it was gonna do more like Studio 54 or The Great Buster, but there are more opera aficionados than I thought.
 

Playco Armboy

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Sony gettiny Venom to an eventual $850+ million gross is a bigger achievement than anything the MCU's done save for Black Panther, to be honest.

Say what you want about Sony, but they absolutely schooled Feige here.
 

Bronx-Man

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"Harry Potter but without the stuff people cared about" apparently isn't setting the world on fire.
 

Schlorgan

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Sony gettiny Venom to an eventual $850+ million gross is a bigger achievement than anything the MCU's done save for Black Panther, to be honest.

Say what you want about Sony, but they absolutely schooled Feige here.
I don't think they've schooled anyone until they can replicate that success over multiple films.

If Venom 2 does similar or better numbers and the other spin-off movies actually come out and do well, then we can't talk about schooling.
 

Violence Jack

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Stop making Robin Hood movies for at least the next decade.

And I don't see how they're getting 5 films out of Fantastic Beasts.
 

Slayven

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Sony gettiny Venom to an eventual $850+ million gross is a bigger achievement than anything the MCU's done save for Black Panther, to be honest.

Say what you want about Sony, but they absolutely schooled Feige here.
When they can get Rocket Racer and The Living Brain to be household names, then folks can say that
 

Sapiens

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Sony gettiny Venom to an eventual $850+ million gross is a bigger achievement than anything the MCU's done save for Black Panther, to be honest.

Say what you want about Sony, but they absolutely schooled Feige here.
It's like a weird combo of pro-sony pony-ism and just trolling marvel for the sake of it???

Why??? Who cares? It's as cringe-worthy as putting Spider-font on a console.
 

Playco Armboy

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I don't think they've schooled anyone until they can replicate that success over multiple films.

If Venom 2 does similar or better numbers and the other spin-off movies actually come out and do well, then we can't talk about schooling.

They're about to make similar numbers with Venom as Homecoming which was backed by an RDJ-saturated marketing campaign, warm reception to Holland's portrayal off Civil War, and the general buzz of Spider-Man's first and long-awaited introduction into the MCU.

Oh, and with a significantly smaller budget.

Venom 2 ft. Carnage will outgross Far From Home, I'll bet.
 
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Venom's like the biggest solo super hero in China full stop. Can any of the MCU claim that? Didn't think so!

I don't think that there is much that you can read into China. XXX3, Warcraft, Rampage, and Resident Evil 6 are also bigger than all of the solo superhero films there. China does its own thing.

Sony China and Tencent did an excellent job selling the film to local audiences. Sony partnering with them to finance Venom was smart business.
 
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