This Rogan apologist shit is just as culty as Trump's base.
I'm sure there's a lot of overlap between the two.
I'm sure there's a lot of overlap between the two.
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Joe Rogan defends Gavin McInnes
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Surprised you typed that so fast, what with all the tears that must be pouring from your eyes, you crybaby
I'm telling you that you shouldn't legitimize stuff like "hate speech isn't real" and your response is "wow, I'm being personally attacked for liking something, you're a bunch of bullies"
Like, I'm not saying you shouldn't put pineapple on pizza or anything, I'm saying "don't watch stuff from a man who has terrible viewpoints that actively promote inequality between races and sexes"
Okay, so how's this: David Pakman is a liberal, well spoken individual, who almost certainly has some interviews on his channel. How about you watch those?
Your point of view isn't worth shit, so you're damn right that's what we're trying. Don't entertain bigotry under the pretense of discourse, because it sure the fuck is not that.
Just throwing my shit out there, but the thing with Crowder from what I've seen is that he understands the constitution and some law. If you disagree with the constitution that is one thing, but he is WAY more dangerous than fucking Joe Rogan lol. Not many people have the audacity to come onto his show and say "fuck the law and constitution."
He whole schtick is a "gotcha" type of moment.
His business is pretending to be really smart. Like a reality show, all his content is curated towards this brand. Either he never spoke to someone "from antifa" if that even means anything or he couldn't hack it against a real leftist scholar. He's not going to put stuff out there to make him look bad.
(And indeed the benchmark of authenticity is "is this ideologue willing to show cases where he looks bad". You should mistrust anyone who's incapable of showing themselves in a bad light. That's usually indicative of either egomania or deception.)
That episode was about being taken to court about saying anything hateful and how government shouldn't tell us how to talk. It's like 'bullshit' in freeform discussion. I suppose that's why I enjoy it.
I never felt my opinion mattered much at all...until I got 100 notifications for liking the Joe Rogan podcast.
"Admitted." Joe Rogan is a self-serving piece of shit. We can shove him aside and have a real conversation about people. Stop defending someone who supports monststers for clicks.
Wow, I can't believe I'm being attack for enjoying a show produced by a racist transphobic piece of trash where he constantly spouts his harmful views. You guys must hate me because I'm different.
The poster you quoted was talking about a concept within political theory, which despite its inclusion of the word political has nothing to do with a lean. Just because a Vox link was included for context doesn't mean the poster was trying to force you to "watch the same things they watch". The wikipedia page has the same info.
But not prosecuting hate speech also allows the KKK and white supremacists to exist and propagate. It's a pretty cut-and-dry topic, is what I'm saying.
Look, if you like well-spoken people and discourse, find people who don't peddle dumb ideas like that.
Stop living life so vacuously, these people hurt marginalized groups. Real people.
I also enjoyed watching Roseanne!
Get the handcuffs!
Yet I didn't follow her on Twitter either
And her show barely even gives an insight to her personal beliefs.
This is disingenuous, you're unabashedly supporting bigotry even in the face of being shown what it is. That's the problem, you're not being persecuted by the evil SJW's for liking a show.
Cool. You should totally check out the classic, Triumph of the Will and report back.
Bit of a silly comparison as she doesn't make money off her bigoted Twitter posts
Whereas Steven Crowder does make money off his videos
Just pointing out the basic fact that someone with a successful podcast is not going to openly admit if someone turned down his invite. I've never heard him say that.
But you don't understand
He finds the real opinions of these real people entertaining
Surely that has to outweigh the damage it all causes
They have to line up..but I really just want to watch anything with two people on hot topics. His is the only show (that I know of) that does that. If there were others, I'd watch them.
But saying I can and can't watch something for what YOU take away from it rather than what I get from it is ridiculous.
Yeah, his show is for real the only show with two people talking about hot topics. That's embarrassing.
Unedited and no one getting angry and talking over each other? It's the only one I know of.
I come back to this thread only to see we got another one of these "I don't know all the details BUT LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS IS NO BIG DEAL!!!" assholes?
Fucking hell...
Fucking hell...
why can't you just admit you agree with them?
This is such a bald faced lie it's not even worth addressing. It's not worth pointing out the hundreds of other podcasts that have what you claim to be looking for without also entertaining horrible bigotry. You're just a liar and a coward, and it would be best for everyone if you admitted that.
Gavin literally screamed for people to do this and wielded a sword in attacks against others then tried to pass that off as the work of the people he and his Nazi buddies attacked. It was never a joke and it is exactly what Gavin wanted. He's playing you and Rogan for saps to help normalize his shit because that's always the end goal for these people. That you think it's important to "hear both sides", already makes you incredibly susceptible to it. Don't believe his lies.
Where exactly did I say or have any opinion on saying the group wasn't a big deal? I agree they should be seen as a hate group based off of what I've seen. It's not a big deal, however, to listen to the Joe Rogan podcast.
It's one hell of a bubble. "There exists no other talk shows because I don't know about them and I'll be damned if you tell me different, give examples, or attempt to expose the vast fucking volume of examples that existed before Joe Rogan, and after."
I don't even know what I would agree with them with? That the world isn't flat? That Jake the snake is kind of a weird dude, but an awesome wrestler. That the one guys conspiracy stuff is loony as shit?
I don't watch rogan for politics. Why the hell would I.
Uh. There's a fuck ton like that that exist. Now I have to question your sincerity. You can find all these horrible podcasts as an example but somehow don't know any others?
Yeah. And I get how that happens but man... for the love of god save some face here. It can't be that hard, can it?
It's the format that is different, which is what drew me to it.
Yeah. The format.
"I could really take or leave the discussions entirely. I just found the framework spoke to my character and resonated with me."
They're asking you about Crowder's "Change My Mind" bullshit that you seem to love, not Rogan.
Joe Rogan came up mostly because I like watching UFC, WWE, and listen to their podcasts I imagine. I'm not really sure where Crowder came from. Probably Facebook and I wanted to check out what people were talking about.
Why are you suddenly back to Rogan when the majority of your argument is Crowder's videos?
Okay.
What about Gavin?
Like I said. Dude doesn't think it's gone too far. It's what he's wanted. He's on record wanting it and actively participated in attacking people.
I'm hit with a lot of notifications and it's hard to notice when one show is being talked about or the other.
For me, in a world of anger and yelling. It's..hm, it's different when you see two people who are absolutely against each other and be able to explain themselves with each other.It wouldn't matter the topic and that's why I'm into it.
So, it's just the nazi lovefest without a shred of critical distance that endears Joe to his audience. Cool.
If you want to defend the guy, listen to him talk to Gavin for two hours. There's not much to defend. Joe Rogan cozies up to white nationalist fascists and gives them a megaphone. And mostly agrees with them.
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I think the FBI is right in calling them a hate group. From what I know, they're fucking horrible people, a terrible group of people.
But Joe Rogan going on his show to say the guy is a bit wack, it started out as a joke and escalated into what he thought would happen, isn't defending them.
However, I don't know how the original conversation carried on to figure if Rogan was for that or not when he originally talked to the guy on air.
It's hard to really say anything without feeling I'm being baited into something. I was never for Crowders opinions to begin with. I think it's crazy to go out with topics and expect civil discourse, but he does it and he receives some great conversations.
For example, two genders. The woman who argued with him was great to listen to. I think it brings some good in the opposing side. (According to him, before I get called out)
I'll agree with Crowder on Gun Control because I think safe handling and knowing guns and the process is good to know.