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LukeOP

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,749
You get up to 30% of what the IRS collects for being a whistleblower? People in some situations are probably going to make some good cash off this.


I should report Trump and become a billionaire.

Any legal course that can be taken on this Roosh guy? This shit is predatory and seems very borderline blackmail.
 

a916

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,809
You get up to 30% of what the IRS collects for being a whistleblower? People in some situations are probably going to make some good cash off this.

Imagine if you were the whistleblower to say like Trump dodging his taxes or something, good lord.

DAMNIT BEATEN!
 

Nephtis

Banned
Dec 27, 2017
679
I'm ok with people being reported to IRS for tax evasion -- though I wish companies and rich people were so readily audited as these people have been. It's also why I don't like tipping either -- so much of that money goes under the table and not properly taxed. :\

Having said this, fuck that guy. They're picking low hanging fruit and should be audited themselves.
 

Biske

Member
Nov 11, 2017
8,253
I'm ok with people being reported to IRS for tax evasion -- though I wish companies and rich people were so readily audited as these people have been. It's also why I don't like tipping either -- so much of that money goes under the table and not properly taxed. :\

Having said this, fuck that guy. They're picking low hanging fruit and should be audited themselves.

Can we stop with this water carrying bullshit.

"Fuck this guy, I support what he is doing though" it's getting fucking old. This isn't based on fact or reason or an actual suspicion that people aren't paying taxes, or a realistic assumption of accurately reporting them and having it be looked into.

It's fucking harassment. Cut the bullshit support. It's not about taxes and never has been.
 

HyperFerret

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,140
I don't know much about taxes, if people donate isn't it considered a gift? Is it even taxable in the first place?
 

Kotto

CEO of Traphouse Networks
Member
Nov 3, 2017
4,466
Imagine being such a fuckin loser that you're reporting people to the IRS over what's essentially chump change.
 

rjinaz

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
28,359
Phoenix
Can we stop with this water carrying bullshit.

"Fuck this guy, I support what he is doing though" it's getting fucking old. This isn't based on fact or reason or an actual suspicion that people aren't paying taxes, or a realistic assumption of accurately reporting them and having it be looked into.

It's fucking harassment. Cut the bullshit support. It's not about taxes and never has been.
You mean a planned and targeted effort coming out of a hate group isn't just about being on a mission to save American tax dollars? Even worse, people seem to be ok with letting this group pick their random targets as long as it's hitting at least some of the right people I guess.
 

water_wendi

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,354
The percentage of people i know self-reporting their income from things like camming is the exact same percentage of the people i knew self-reporting Amazon purchases to pay sales tax: zero. i dont know how serious this is going to be taken by the IRS but im surprised it didnt happen sooner.
 

lmcfigs

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,091
I think the IRS has bigger fish to fry. Not really sure these women should be all that concerned honestly
 

Barn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,137
Los Angeles
Please name the individuals who are turning a blind eye to corporate tax breaks, because this level of hyperbolic posting is what muddies the waters of discourse.

Uh, let's start with Roosh? He's the prophet of this whole "thot audit" movement, as well as an on-the-books Trump supporter and alt-right figurehead. Under the Trump administration, just by April of this year, S&P 500 corporations alone were saving about $13 billion in taxes. Do we need to get into the administration's history of tax breaks not just for the wealthy, but for the ultra-wealthy?

This is clearly not about taxation for these people.
 

rjinaz

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
28,359
Phoenix
The percentage of people i know self-reporting their income from things like camming is the exact same percentage of the people i knew self-reporting Amazon purchases to pay sales tax: zero. i dont know how serious this is going to be taken by the IRS but im surprised it didnt happen sooner.
It's because they have their hands full with the wealthy moving their money over shores, exploiting loop holes, etc, to try and sue people for not reporting their non-taxed purchases on Amazon and ebay.
 

Nephtis

Banned
Dec 27, 2017
679
Can we stop with this water carrying bullshit.

"Fuck this guy, I support what he is doing though" it's getting fucking old. This isn't based on fact or reason or an actual suspicion that people aren't paying taxes, or a realistic assumption of accurately reporting them and having it be looked into.

It's fucking harassment. Cut the bullshit support. It's not about taxes and never has been.

I'm sorry, I missed the part where I said I reported what this guy specifically is doing. Can you point it out for me? I just don't care for people who are being paid under the table or are finding loopholes (corporations) and not paying their dues.
 

Josh378

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,521
So a couple of things here.

1. People have way too much faith in the IRS. I get that this is really just another way to harass women. That's what it boils down to and that is the point, there is a sea of internet/twitter/message board/comment section/gamer gate - assholes, just aching to harass the women they masturbate to.

That harassment is real and nothing to be dismissed and its something women and sex workers endure every minute of every day. I hope they aren't actually concerned with the IRS part. As if A) the IRS gives a fuck or B) has the resources to suss out who these people are and dig into if they are actually paying taxes or not on all sources of income. Just a mammoth undertaking that they could never hope to carry out even if they wanted to. Specially when you have thousands of internet fucktards reporting thousands of people. The idea that any thing will come of it in terms of taxes and the IRS is absurd.

2. People greatly overestimate how much sex workers actually make. The top girls and top porn stars sure, but the majority of them aren't making shit, especially cam girls/snap chat sellers. There is a top tier and then a huge fucking drop off. I'd wager the majority of these people if audited and found not to be paying taxes (I don't know how in the fuck they would calculate how much they owe) would be found to owe tens of dollars in taxes. If the IRS did manage to audit any I'm sure that person would get in trouble from their boss cause it was a waste of fucking time.

3. I'd like to see porn turned off for a while and see how much these people actually enjoy that. If you've ever visited a porn site comment section or a web cam chat room, one thing is immediately clear, its frequented in the majority by right wing republican people and a lot of people who seemingly hate women. A proud tradition of hating themselves and what they spend their time on. I really question what world they actually want to live on.

The classic irony of the same dipshit twitter accounts that are always shouting "they are taking tits out of my games!!!!" and "this whore is showing her tits!!!"

You can just do the twitter search for IRS and look at the insanity. There was one account I read of a guy talking about how he had quite women for 2 years as he like preps to get back in the game or some shit, but HE AINT GAY!!!


Taking away porn would mean open war to the world. How would they release their frustration? Would they start doing mass hacking or even worse...i think by taking key things away from the internet, I fear for this world.
 

Opto

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,546
I'm sure their favorite child-rape drawing manga artist pays their taxes too
 

LukeOP

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
4,749
Taking away porn would mean open war to the world. How would they release their frustration? Would they start doing mass hacking or even worse...i think by taking key things away from the internet, I fear for this world.

Yep, I believe we will only achieve world peace when we have holodeck technology with sex AI.
 

Biske

Member
Nov 11, 2017
8,253
I'm sorry, I missed the part where I said I reported what this guy specifically is doing. Can you point it out for me? I just don't care for people who are being paid under the table or are finding loopholes (corporations) and not paying their dues.

I'm ok with people being reported to IRS for tax evasion -- though I wish companies and rich people were so readily audited as these people have been. It's also why I don't like tipping either -- so much of that money goes under the table and not properly taxed. :\

Having said this, fuck that guy. They're picking low hanging fruit and should be audited themselves.

There you go. Please feel free to show me where you split the harassment hair though.
 

Halo 2

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,552
Middle of Nowhere
As an independent contractor myself I think they're as obligated to pay tax as me.

That said, these predatory jerks reporting the girls are the worst type of person.
 

Deleted member 32561

User requested account closure
Banned
Nov 11, 2017
3,831
"B-but they are dodging taxes, that's not sexist to report them!"
Except they weren't reported because they were dodging taxes. Frankly, these men don't even actually have proof their victims don't report their profits from snapchat, afaik. Even if they did, they were reported solely because they're, to quote these sad excuses for human flesh, "thots". Used in a slut-shamey way to boot. Thot being a term, as per most definitions I've read, referring to women of low income who like acting they are of high income and are promiscuous and/or flirtatious.

Like. Suppose you actually discovered that one of these low-income women was dodging taxes, and holding nothing else against them, you reported them. You're a bit of a bootlicking dick because you're deciding to report someone who doesn't have a lot of money in the first place... but no, you're right, that wouldn't be sexist.

But these men are not reporting and congratulating their comrades and acquaintances for reporting these women because of tax evasion. They're doing it because they hate... well, they hate women, flat out, but especially "thots". So, this is entirely a sexist event.
 

Koo

Member
Dec 10, 2017
1,863
I saw a tweet about this today that didn't go into detail about what was going on. At the time I just thought; okay seems like a waste of time but everyone needs to report income on taxes. I guess I was naive because I did not even know what a premium snap was. I think I assumed it was like a Kardashian-like thing where someone was a social media influencer and brands paid them to talk about and photograph their products on snap/insta or something. xD

Thanks to this thread I have changed my stance because I've learned that this is harmfully targeting women and isn't about taxes at all. What a horrible way to live your life; just leave people alone and be decent. Is that so much to ask?
You get up to 30% of what the IRS collects for being a whistleblower? People in some situations are probably going to make some good cash off this.
If that's what motivates someone to report these women they should instead consider starting a targeted harassment campaign against millionaires/billionaires. Why report a dozen premium snaps to make like .30 cent when you can report just 1 ultra wealthy person and gain hundreds of thousands as a reward?
 

FF Seraphim

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,684
Tokyo
I think the IRS has bigger fish to fry. Not really sure these women should be all that concerned honestly
IRS only care about money and if you have it and are not giving them their fair share, they will come after you.
Even if nothing "bad" happens, the fact you are being audited will cause undo stress and no one needs that.
 

Nephtis

Banned
Dec 27, 2017
679
If you're okay with reporting people this way, why not go help pick some of the low hanging fruit? Why not put your money where your asshole is and help with the cause rather than cheer from the sidelines?

The fuck is wrong with you? I never said I supported what they did for the reasons they did. And really, you need to back off with the insults.
 

Kernel

Member
Oct 25, 2017
19,851
It's like crazy family members reporting you to CPS because you had a feud with them or cut them off. It happens.
 

Biske

Member
Nov 11, 2017
8,253
The fuck is wrong with you? I never said I supported what they did for the reasons they did. And really, you need to back off with the insults.

I have a big problem when every time blatant bullshit like this rolls around, people like you come in with "well, they are doing the right thing just in the wrong way/to the wrong people" taking what is at its face a naked harassment campaign against women and rooting it in some legitimate grievance that has absolutely nothing to fucking do with the reality of this situation.

It's the most milquetoast underhanded way of enabling and continuing further naked harassment campaigns. There is no fucking need for it and it should be intolerable.
 

joecanada

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,651
Canada
As an independent contractor myself I think they're as obligated to pay tax as me.

That said, these predatory jerks reporting the girls are the worst type of person.
Yeah but I think the point is they weren't suspected of not paying tax they're just being reported because you can report anyone so they're being assholes .
 
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Trafalgar Law

Trafalgar Law

Member
Nov 6, 2017
4,683
i reiterate, the act itself isn't awful , it's the motivations and feelings behind do this
the entitlement and bitterness, it's pathetic and sad
 

Alandrus Sun

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
390
User Banned (2 Weeks): Legitimising a harassment campaign
This is pretty funny. Their intentions are horrid but they are technically in the right.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,274
These types usually consider themselves libertarian. They're always going on about taxation being theft. Now they care about taxes?

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What they're doing is simply harassment.
 

Nephtis

Banned
Dec 27, 2017
679
User Banned (2 Weeks): Giving legitimacy to harassment campaigns.
I have a big problem when every time blatant bullshit like this rolls around, people like you come in with "well, they are doing the right thing just in the wrong way/to the wrong people" taking what is at its face a naked harassment campaign against women and rooting it in some legitimate grievance that has absolutely nothing to fucking do with the reality of this situation.

It's the most milquetoast underhanded way of enabling and continuing further naked harassment campaigns. There is no fucking need for it and it should be intolerable.

I agree with you in that using it as a form of harassment should be at the very least slapped with a fine for it. Or better yet, make it illegal. I don't support what the guy is doing (using it as a tool for harassment) but I do have a problem with people who are not paying their taxes and / or find loopholes / get unfair tax breaks. So I'm ok with it if people are being reported and audited if they're taking advantage. Everyone should pay their due.
 

Biske

Member
Nov 11, 2017
8,253
These types usually consider themselves libertarian. They're always going on about taxation being theft. Now they care about taxes?


What they're doing is simply harassment.

No you see, he bought her snap and then watched her not carefully document the transaction for future tax purposes. When they snapped together he asked her for "receipts" and she couldn't produce any and then he requested to see her previous years tax filings which she happily obliged as he was a paying customer, and after careful review and questioning he found that she wasn't in fact reporting all her income.

So you see, this is just a good soul doing his part for the american tax payer.
 

Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
Like they're very specifically going after women even on sfw sites like twitch but leave male streamers out of it.


Things this does

1) demonizes sex workers even further when we need the exact opposite
2) propagates sexism
3) causes a giant fucking headache for women and the IRS

Things this doesn't do

1) get people to pay taxes
2) reduce the federal deficit
3) create an even playing field where the ultra rich and corps are taxed fairly
4) removes legal loopholes
 

Pekola

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,507
i reiterate, the act itself isn't awful

Oh sis, it IS awful. These girls aren't making major bank through sex work.

Frankly, anyone who cares about some random (probably low-middle class) woman hustling to make ends meet, is on some snitching busybody bs and should mind their own business.

Just because something is legal, doesn't make it morally correct.
 

Fat4all

Woke up, got a money tag, swears a lot
Member
Oct 25, 2017
92,367
here
Things this does

1) demonizes sex workers even further when we need the exact opposite
2) propagates sexism
3) causes a giant fucking headache for women and the IRS

Things this doesn't do

1) get people to pay taxes
2) reduce the federal deficit
3) create an even playing field where the ultra rich and corps are taxed fairly
4) removes legal loopholes
"at least their heads are in the right places!"
 

SegFault

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,939
Don't forget roosh is a rapist who hates the fact that he has to wipe his ass after shutting.
 

Biske

Member
Nov 11, 2017
8,253
I agree with you in that using it as a form of harassment should be at the very least slapped with a fine for it. Or better yet, make it illegal. I don't support what the guy is doing (using it as a tool for harassment) but I do have a problem with people who are not paying their taxes and / or find loopholes / get unfair tax breaks. So I'm ok with it if people are being reported and audited if they're taking advantage. Everyone should pay their due.

That's not remotely the situation here. It's so far outside of what is actually happening it's not even relevant.

If this started as say, some guy having a friend that makes money this way and knowing pretty well how much money they are pulling in and that they don't report it on their taxes and then is like "Oh yeah, hello IRS let me tell you about this friend!" maybe at that point, then is the time to chime in and be like "well he's right." Sure whatever.

But this is a group of people who are going into women's DM's with "I wanna buy your snap" "okay this is the price" "HAH GOT YA SLUT! REPORTED!!!" Based on sheer ignorance and hatred.

Or even worse scenarios "hey slut give me your private snap or I am going to report you" which if you look through twitter, is a big part of this.


So honestly tell me, what need is there to take this completely baseless situation of harassment, where not a single shred of actually caring about proper taxation or due diligence is present, where is the need to give them legitimacy? What purpose does it serve? What does it accomplish accept watering down the harassment that is going on?
 

jph139

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,362
Sex workers have it tough enough without the IRS breathing down their neck. Yeah, you should be reporting it as income if you're making noticeable amounts of cash from this sort of thing (so long as you're doing it legally of course, if you're straight up having sex for money you probably... shouldn't mention that), but it's such a marginal amount of money that anyone making a stink over it obviously has some sort of shitty ulterior motive.