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bytesized

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,882
Amsterdam
Lol Pocket Rumble is my most disappointing game of 2018. Did it ever get an update? It's single player was the barest of bones.
I never understood why people were so excited for this game based just on its NEO geo pocket looks. Besides that everything pointed out to it being a very shallow experience.

Btw, I just finished membrane and almost 100%'d it. Great physics based puzzle platformer that really made me think at times. I definitely recommend it.
 

TYRANITARR

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,967
I never understood why people were so excited for this game based just on its NEO geo pocket looks. Besides that everything pointed out to it being a very shallow experience.

Btw, I just finished membrane and almost 100%'d it. Great physics based puzzle platformer that really made me think at times. I definitely recommend it.

Match of the Millennium NGPC is the best portable fighting game before Smash 3DS. If Pocket Rumble was half as good I would've been thrilled.

It wasn't.
 

HotHamBoy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
16,423
I never understood why people were so excited for this game based just on its NEO geo pocket looks. Besides that everything pointed out to it being a very shallow experience.

Aside from looking cool, I think there is a desire for more fighters with less complex inputs. Plus, Switch at the time still had few fighters with online. That's changed a lot since Pocket Rumble released.
 

deejay

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
453
It's another campaign, not technically a sequel story-wise because it takes place at the same time.

It's not one of those cases where if you have one game the other is obsolete (like, for example, Attack on Titan).

It's more like asking whether you should get Majora's Mask if you already have Ocarina of Time.

Weird comparison since those Zelda games are in no way the same, but I guess it gets the point across. Thanks, and you too Hamboy.
 

Slam Tilt

Member
Jan 16, 2018
5,585
No, the price of the physical version generally extends to the eshop, unless it's like limited run indie prints or something.

Battlechasers, This Is the Police, Titan Quest, Sine Mora, etc all are priced $10 more than other platforms for both physical and digital versions.

The general excuse given by publishers is the higher cost of the game card, but in truth most of the Switch Tax games fit on the smallest sized cards which are alleged to cost no more to publish on than a BD. True or not, most other publishers choose not to charge more, regardless of what size game cards they use, so it's a suspect excuse coming from the likes of THQ.
My understanding is that retailers don't want to carry physical games that cost less than $30, as that is "Clearance" fodder (and games priced under $30 are often tossed in the clearance bin to boot). The eShop then follows those prices as Nintendo refuses to have digital games priced cheaper than their physical equivalents lest the retailers get pissed off.
 

HotHamBoy

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
16,423
My understanding is that retailers don't want to carry physical games that cost less than $30, as that is "Clearance" fodder (and games priced under $30 are often tossed in the clearance bin to boot). The eShop then follows those prices as Nintendo refuses to have digital games priced cheaper than their physical equivalents lest the retailers get pissed off.
That's an interesting take but I suspect doesn't hold up.

For one thing, Battle Chasers, Titan Quest, Minecraft Story Mode and Rime were already $30 on other platforms before getting the $10 bump to $40 on Switch.

But what really kills that excuse is the fact that there are $20 games on PS4 and XB1 with $20 physical editions that that got bumped to $30 on Switch. So apparently retailers don't mind if it's PS4 and XB1?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Is NBA 2K Playgrounds 2 out on Switch physically? I've checked Best Buy and Target and not seen it, but I have seen PS4 physical versions in both places.

I don't want the digital copy if there's a physical version. Maybe I should check Wal-Mart tonight.
 

Deleted member 3897

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
9,638
Not Switch, but Im currently playing Twilight Princess HD now (Wii U) after giving it a second try I am really enjoying the game apart from Skull Kid. Fuck that thing.

Im currently on my way to Temple of Time after Snowpeak Ruins. I have almost 40 hours, but I feel 10 on then comes from me bullshitting around due to know knowing where I should go and simply just putting the game to idle (pausing and taking a break). I think SKyward Sword will be the only 3D Zelda I will not finish. I hate the controls and the interruptions. Tried getting into SS many times, but fail every time due to me getting bored.
 

TYRANITARR

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,967
Aside from looking cool, I think there is a desire for more fighters with less complex inputs. Plus, Switch at the time still had few fighters with online. That's changed a lot since Pocket Rumble released.
Yup, when they announced the game SF 30 Anniversary Collection wasn't available, as well as all the other SNK ports, and DBFZ wasn't coming out in just a few months.

Pocket Rumble could've been a success if it had been released closer to when it was announced, early in the Switch library. But yeah, it's competition caught up to it.


... also I re-downloaded Dead Cells after playing it literally for 1 hour on release day and uninstalling it. I thought, "I need to give that game another chance" and tried it again today. NOPE. I can't understand what people see in this game, the combat is so... button-mash-WTF-is-happening-dodge-roll-throw-a-sentry into a pack of enemies and see what happens. Man, it's so unelegant. I don't get what this game is going for. I really like 2D action platformers, that would describe half of my Switch library. But yeah, I can't get into Dead Cells. If nobody had told me it was a Masterpiece game, I would've personally scored the thing like 1 out of 5, instead of "Okay this is probably a great game, but I don't get it and it's clearly not for me."

On a positive note: I watched the Monster Boy trailer coming out on Dec 4th and that game looks AMAZING. It's pricey at $39.99, but that fits what y'all were discussing earlier in the thread about retail games needing to be < $30.
 

Freezasaurus

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Oct 25, 2017
57,002
On a positive note: I watched the Monster Boy trailer coming out on Dec 4th and that game looks AMAZING. It's pricey at $39.99, but that fits what y'all were discussing earlier in the thread about retail games needing to be < $30.
It's definitely on my Wishlist, but I don't know if I'm in the mood for another platformer like that when I've played Shantae so recently.
 

.exe

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,241
Playing Minit and loving it. If you're jonesing for a hit of raw uncut traditional Zelda, get it! It's fantastic. While Blossom Tales was too predictable and reliant on established Zelda tropes for my taste, Minit is hitting all the right notes with really fresh ideas and has a bunch of super clever puzzles/mechanics.
 

Popetita

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,957
TX|PR
Oh man didn't even know the game Toki was getting a remake. I LOVED this game as a kid on arcades and the NES. $29.99 still seems like a lot though.
 

TheMoon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Video Games
Oh man didn't even know the game Toki was getting a remake. I LOVED this game as a kid on arcades and the NES. $29.99 still seems like a lot though.
it's because it also comes in a fancy pants retail version

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Boy Wander

Alt Account
Banned
Oct 29, 2017
2,126
UK
Yup, when they announced the game SF 30 Anniversary Collection wasn't available, as well as all the other SNK ports, and DBFZ wasn't coming out in just a few months.

Pocket Rumble could've been a success if it had been released closer to when it was announced, early in the Switch library. But yeah, it's competition caught up to it.


... also I re-downloaded Dead Cells after playing it literally for 1 hour on release day and uninstalling it. I thought, "I need to give that game another chance" and tried it again today. NOPE. I can't understand what people see in this game, the combat is so... button-mash-WTF-is-happening-dodge-roll-throw-a-sentry into a pack of enemies and see what happens. Man, it's so unelegant. I don't get what this game is going for. I really like 2D action platformers, that would describe half of my Switch library. But yeah, I can't get into Dead Cells. If nobody had told me it was a Masterpiece game, I would've personally scored the thing like 1 out of 5, instead of "Okay this is probably a great game, but I don't get it and it's clearly not for me."

On a positive note: I watched the Monster Boy trailer coming out on Dec 4th and that game looks AMAZING. It's pricey at $39.99, but that fits what y'all were discussing earlier in the thread about retail games needing to be < $30.

I don't get the love for Dead Cells either. Would get my vote for most overrated game of the year. It's ok but it didn't hold my interest at all. Different games I know but Hollow Knight blows it out of the water for my money.
 

OuterLimits

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
987
Civilization VI is so damn addicting . I'm still trying to learn everything though and had to start a new game on Chieftan level since the default difficulty of Prince was kicking my butt . Last PC version i played was Civ 2. Loved Civ Revolution but obviously that was a more simplified version . For the most part they did a great job with the port. Tutorial mode is bugged though, so hopefully that gets patched eventually. Also hoping the expansions get released eventually, although I'm having a blast with the vanilla version.



Still debating if I'm going to get Doom . I probably should since it only has been on sale once or twice before. Just upgraded to a 200 gb card from 64 gb, as I was having to archive so many big games(Fire Emblem Warriors)

is the Child of Light Switch port well done? Very tempting at $10. Enjoyed it on Wii U and would love having it on the go .

other games I'm considering are Steam Dig 2, Townsmen(anyone played it?) and DK Tropical Freeze .

i have had Tiny Metal on my wishlist for months but never seen it on sale. Bummer.
 

TYRANITARR

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,967
Still debating if I'm going to get Doom . I probably should since it only has been on sale once or twice before. Just upgraded to a 200 gb card from 64 gb, as I was having to archive so many big games(Fire Emblem Warriors)

is the Child of Light Switch port well done? Very tempting at $10. Enjoyed it on Wii U and would love having it on the go .

other games I'm considering are Steam Dig 2, Townsmen(anyone played it?) and DK Tropical Freeze .

i have had Tiny Metal on my wishlist for months but never seen it on sale. Bummer.

I'll make this easy for you:

Doom - HELLYEAH!
Steamworld Dig 2 - YESSSSS
DKC Tropical Freeze - SUPER DUPER YES!
Tiny Metal - I liked it, but go ahead and pass. Into the Breach and Steamworld Heist are much much much better TBS games.
 

TYRANITARR

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,967
I don't get the love for Dead Cells either. Would get my vote for most overrated game of the year. It's ok but it didn't hold my interest at all. Different games I know but Hollow Knight blows it out of the water for my money.

I agree. I had just finished Hollow Knight the day before starting Dead Cells this summer and I was super disappointed with Dead Cells.

As far as 2D Action games of 2018 I would rank: Mega Man 11, Hollow Knight, The Messenger all as much much more fun games than DC.
 

Boy Wander

Alt Account
Banned
Oct 29, 2017
2,126
UK
I agree. I had just finished Hollow Knight the day before starting Dead Cells this summer and I was super disappointed with Dead Cells.

As far as 2D Action games of 2018 I would rank: Mega Man 11, Hollow Knight, The Messenger all as much much more fun games than DC.

Reminds me that I need to jump on The Messenger at some point.

Just took a punt on "The Way Remastered" so I'm hoping it's decent...
 
Oct 25, 2017
10,767
Toronto, ON
I didn't like Dead Cells that much. It's...okay. Way prefer Hollow Knight for a similar experience.

Pocket Rumble is disappointing, and the company behind it also just scuttled the Pocket Rumble card game that I backed on Kickstarter - it was was supposed to have been delivered almost two years ago but they couldn't get it right and kept trying to redesign it.
 

Deleted member 3017

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,653
Yup, when they announced the game SF 30 Anniversary Collection wasn't available, as well as all the other SNK ports, and DBFZ wasn't coming out in just a few months.

Pocket Rumble could've been a success if it had been released closer to when it was announced, early in the Switch library. But yeah, it's competition caught up to it.


... also I re-downloaded Dead Cells after playing it literally for 1 hour on release day and uninstalling it. I thought, "I need to give that game another chance" and tried it again today. NOPE. I can't understand what people see in this game, the combat is so... button-mash-WTF-is-happening-dodge-roll-throw-a-sentry into a pack of enemies and see what happens. Man, it's so unelegant. I don't get what this game is going for. I really like 2D action platformers, that would describe half of my Switch library. But yeah, I can't get into Dead Cells. If nobody had told me it was a Masterpiece game, I would've personally scored the thing like 1 out of 5, instead of "Okay this is probably a great game, but I don't get it and it's clearly not for me."

On a positive note: I watched the Monster Boy trailer coming out on Dec 4th and that game looks AMAZING. It's pricey at $39.99, but that fits what y'all were discussing earlier in the thread about retail games needing to be < $30.

Dead Cells is my GotY. The combat is absolutely incredible and about as far from button-mashy as you can get. You aren't coming close to finishing the game if you play it that way. I have 95 hours of playtime with the game.
 

bytesized

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,882
Amsterdam
Dead cells needs a demo, there's no way I'm buying the game with opinions on it being so over the place. In general the eshop really needs more demos. I'm also going to skip on Smash Bros because I've never played one and have no idea if I would like it.
 

Bog

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,428
I put something like 60 hours into Dead Cells and never had a run where I had a shot at beating the end boss. Enjoyed the game though.
 

ryushe

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,814
Reposting from the Diablo 3 OT;

So, for years my wife and I have been looking for the perfect cooperative role-playing/dungeon crawler/loot game but to no avail. We've dabbled with the Destinys, the Final Fantasy XIVs and the Divisions out there, but none ever seemed to stick with her because she wants something where she can "loot, level up and laze about". Basically, a game that she can put in as little or as much time as possible and still feel like she accomplished something with each session.

So, for YEARS I've been trying to get her to play Diablo 3 with me since it's is exactly the type of game she's looking for but she would always say no because it "looked silly". So, over the Thanksgiving break, after looking for something to play together, I suggest Diablo 3 again for the umpteenth time expecting the same answer I always got and this time she finally said "Oh, why the heck not?"

After playing for 5 hours straight, she then turned to me and says "This Diablo's a pretty good game" lol

Dead Cells 1.1 patch should be hitting Switch soon.

Huge update.
I hope so as I will definitely jump back into the game once it does. I'm usually not sensative to framerate stuff, but something about how the Switch version hitches just messed me up.

That said, from what I did play of Dead Cells, nothing about the game stuck out to me. But that's fine. I felt the same about Rogue Legacy before it clicked and now that's one of my favorite indies ever.
 
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tolkir

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just beat kuso on the unlimited lives mode. Very suprised with the game. Tight platformer with great price where you can mold the difficult how you want. It can create checkpoints anywhere on the level.
After the disappointment of the Ultimate Chicken Horse (I didn't like the gameplay and the single player mode is very confusing), I have recovered the mood to play more 2D platformers in Switch.



I tried to complete it with the minimal checkpoints.
DszbkurVsAAKLv9.jpg
 

Baladium

Banned
Apr 18, 2018
5,410
Sleep Deprivation Zone
I'm also going to skip on Smash Bros because I've never played one and have no idea if I would like it.

If you have a 2DS/3DS, there's a Smash demo on there. One stage, five selectable characters, solo and multiplayer options. Very limited, but it's free and will give you a firsthand sampling of what to expect from Ultimate.

I just beat kuso on the unlimited lives mode. Very suprised with the game. Tight platformer with great price where you can mold the difficult how you want. It can create checkpoints anywhere on the level.
After the disappointment of the Ultimate Chicken Horse (I didn't like the gameplay and the single player mode is very confusing), I have recovered the mood to play more 2D platformers in Switch.



I tried to complete it with the minimal checkpoints.
DszbkurVsAAKLv9.jpg


I'm getting some serious VVVVVV vibes from that, minus the gravity switching. Looks good! :)
 
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Oct 25, 2017
10,767
Toronto, ON
Hollow Knight is a Metroidvania. Dead Cells is a level-based roguelite. These games aren't similar. The core structure and gameplay loop is completely different between both games.

Yep, still don't know why people compare them.

If you're being specific, yeah, absolutely. What I meant by similar experience - and this is just personal, not speaking for anyone else - was "difficult 2D action/adventure games with light RPG elements and exploration."

They are definitely very different games. But they scratch a similar itch (again, for me).
 

Deleted member 33571

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Nov 17, 2017
907
Only game I ended up going for in the "cyber deals" sale is Uurnog Uurnlimited and I'm shocked no one really talks about this game. It's an incredibly strange and unconventional puzzleish platformer that seems totally content with being not very tightly designed and I'm loving it. The only mention of it I can remember seeing outside of the eshop is from Nathalie Lawhead (developer of Everything is Going to Be OK) on twitter and I definitely can see some parallels between her own aesthetic and design sensibilities and those present in Uurnog. It's maybe a bit too unforgiving at times but I hope more people check it out, it's great.
 

Deleted member 3017

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Oct 25, 2017
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Only game I ended up going for in the "cyber deals" sale is Uurnog Uurnlimited and I'm shocked no one really talks about this game. It's an incredibly strange and unconventional puzzleish platformer that seems totally content with being not very tightly designed and I'm loving it. The only mention of it I can remember seeing outside of the eshop is from Nathalie Lawhead (developer of Everything is Going to Be OK) on twitter and I definitely can see some parallels between her own aesthetic and design sensibilities and those present in Uurnog. It's maybe a bit too unforgiving at times but I hope more people check it out, it's great.

I've had my eye on this one since last year. Guess I'm buying it tonight.
 

TYRANITARR

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,967
I finished a game!!!

The Messenger. Great experience, I'm interested in possibly learning to speedrun the 8-bit mode. The game is too long for its own good and its best levels are in the final 1/4 of the game, which is too bad, I feel like most gamers are going to stop playing before they ever see the best/most interesting level design.

I would recommend it, but yup, the back half of the game is poorly paced with having to slog through backtracking old areas to get back to the new interesting areas. The game feels needlessly "padded" to extend the length of the game, when it didn't need to.
 

Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,810
I just beat kuso on the unlimited lives mode. Very suprised with the game. Tight platformer with great price where you can mold the difficult how you want. It can create checkpoints anywhere on the level.
After the disappointment of the Ultimate Chicken Horse (I didn't like the gameplay and the single player mode is very confusing), I have recovered the mood to play more 2D platformers in Switch.



I tried to complete it with the minimal checkpoints.
DszbkurVsAAKLv9.jpg

This looks awesome. Got the game yesterday and can't wait to dive into it.
 

cheska

Member
Oct 27, 2017
224
Guys, any thoughts on Shining Resonance Refrain or Wonder Boy?

Admittedly I am not enjoying Celeste as much as everyone else. It's so hard
 

TYRANITARR

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,967
Guys, any thoughts on Shining Resonance Refrain or Wonder Boy?

Admittedly I am not enjoying Celeste as much as everyone else. It's so hard
Did you try the adjustable modifers in Celeste to.make the game easier? It's a great game that makes itself accessible by using it's options, give them a try!

I will vouch for Wonderboy at $10! But keep in mind it's literally a Master System game with a beautiful coat of paint: it's short and has slippery non modern controls. Frankly I'd you didn't play games like this in the 80s, it's going to be off-putting. But it's a wonderful game, and it's a great 2 ish hour experience that I wanted to play through again because it was so bright and colorful and had beautiful music.
 

dlauv

Prophet of Truth - One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
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Guys, any thoughts on Shining Resonance Refrain or Wonder Boy?

Shining Resonance is like an even cheaper Tales of game. If you're into those games, I'd wait for a steeper sale. I've been playing for three or four hours, and there's no real customization, the story is kind of boring, and the combat is brainless until boss fights.

Here's some Switch footage of Toki -- it is the first three stages & their boss battles.



This looks great. Like a much cheaper Dragon's Trap. Visually, anyway.
 
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cheska

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Oct 27, 2017
224
Did you try the adjustable modifers in Celeste to.make the game easier? It's a great game that makes itself accessible by using it's options, give them a try!

I will vouch for Wonderboy at $10! But keep in mind it's literally a Master System game with a beautiful coat of paint: it's short and has slippery non modern controls. Frankly I'd you didn't play games like this in the 80s, it's going to be off-putting. But it's a wonderful game, and it's a great 2 ish hour experience that I wanted to play through again because it was so bright and colorful and had beautiful music.
I did make some of those adjustments, but I almost feel like I'm cheating by doing so :(

I did pick up WonderBoy though, so yay!

Shining Resonance is like an even cheaper Tales of game. If you're into those games, I'd wait for a steeper sale. I've been playing for three or four hours, and there's no real customization, the story is kind of boring, and the combat is brainless until boss fights.

Thank you! I'll save my money and put it towards an actual tales game haha
 

Enforcer

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
2,961
Felt the urge to buy something from eshop sale. Child of Light is fun but performance is pretty sluggish on Switch.

It's $10 so can't complain too much.
 

Wanderer5

Prophet of Truth
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
10,987
Somewhere.
Went by a gamestop today, so I went and got a copy of Bendy, and still funny that it is $10 cheaper than at the eshop. Looking forward to getting through this game.