Atlus responds to concerns over Sony regulations affecting Catherine: Full Body

ULTROS! · Nov 23, 2018

https://gematsu.com/2018/11/atlus-r...ony-regulations-affecting-catherine-full-body

Atlus' Studio Zero has responded to questions regarding Sony Interactive Entertainment's recent regulations regarding adult content affecting Catherine: Full Body in a series of tweets (2, 3, 4).

Studio Zero responded to these tweets all at once via the following:

I will report this here for everyone.

There are no mysterious lights in Catherine: Full Body. (We went as far as we could go without the light shining.) To everyone worried about that, we love you. (We received about 10 more of the same question.)

– Studio Zero Sheep Man No. 1

Booki · Nov 23, 2018

So we'll be getting the full Qatherine experience. Dope.

Theswweet · Nov 23, 2018

Qan't wait!

MetalBoi · Nov 23, 2018

Sucks that this has to even be a concern.

Hanbei · Nov 23, 2018

No mysterious lights, BUT they didn't say it won't be censored.

Sandfox · Nov 23, 2018

Hanbei said:
No mysterious lights, BUT they didn't say it won't be censored.

Yup.

Lithium Flower · Nov 23, 2018

I'll believe it when I'm playing it.

Porygon · Nov 23, 2018

It reads like something was changed

NateDrake · Nov 23, 2018

Fixed the thread title for you.

Chaos2Frozen · Nov 23, 2018

This is serious business

signal · Nov 23, 2018

No lights means nothing to censor.

A new renaissance of purity has arrived at last!

vestan · Nov 23, 2018

no idea why people thought catherine of all titles would be censored lmao shits not even bad

Deleted member 5535 · Nov 23, 2018

I'll wait and see. In previous cases publishers/developers said the same and many things were changed

Jawbreaker · Nov 23, 2018

Imagine thinking this would get censored.

Sagadego17 · Nov 23, 2018

Hanbei said:
No mysterious lights, BUT they didn't say it won't be censored.

Tohsaka · Nov 23, 2018

Nemesis162 said:
I'll wait and see. In previous cases publishers/developers said the same and many things were changed

Yeah, we'll know for sure when it's out in Japan at least since there's no chance of it coming out at the same time in the west unfortunately with Atlus's track record.

haotshy · Nov 23, 2018

vestan said:
no idea why people thought catherine of all titles would be censored lmao shits not even bad

Like I said in another thread, I wonder how many people that thought it would be censored even played Catherine. It's not the game you'd expect based on the box art and plot premise.

casiopao · Nov 23, 2018

haotshy said:
Like I said in another thread, I wonder how many people that thought it would be censored even played Catherine. It's not the game you'd expect based on the box art and plot premise.

I thought there is some fanservice photo though?

Aeana · Nov 23, 2018

haotshy said:
Like I said in another thread, I wonder how many people that thought it would be censored even played Catherine. It's not the game you'd expect based on the box art and plot premise.

The original wasn't, but this is the version where they're adding things like the "yearning older sister" voice from the company that brought us the Radiant Historia remake with all of the skeevy CG added.

vestan · Nov 23, 2018

haotshy said:
Like I said in another thread, I wonder how many people that thought it would be censored even played Catherine. It's not the game you'd expect based on the box art and plot premise.

yeh from what i've seen so far of full body shit ain't even bad. its tame as fuck just like the original.

Yappa · Nov 23, 2018

I'm confused.
Is the quote in the OP the translation of all 4 tweets or only the last one?
Looks like the last one, so what did the other tweets say?

mute · Nov 23, 2018

No God Rays from here on out because games have had enough time to go back and redo completly instead of the quick fix beams from before.

Chrono · Nov 23, 2018

No "mysterious lights" doesn't really tell me whether the game did/didn't have any edits done. Personally, it still sounds to me like some censoring was definitely done, but I guess only Atlus themselves know.

Sandfox · Nov 23, 2018

haotshy said:
Like I said in another thread, I wonder how many people that thought it would be censored even played Catherine. It's not the game you'd expect based on the box art and plot premise.

The new version is apparently adding more risque stuff.

Mediking · Nov 23, 2018

Keep it censor free

Rellodex · Nov 23, 2018

I feel like I'm out of the loop?

The original release of Catherine was pretty tame, beyond entendres and some thematic content.

Do we have a reason to believe they're pushing things this time around?

The game legitimately missed out on a lot of the hallmarks of the erotic thriller genre by pulling so many punches....but maybe it wouldn't even benefit from it?

The block dude segments are awesome though.

Edit: took too long to type this and I guess my question was answered. But I'll believe it when I see it.

SillyGoose · Nov 23, 2018

I won't be satisfied unless I see schlong.

joe_zazen · Nov 23, 2018

"We went as far as we could without the light shining" doesn't that just mean they worked within Sony's regulations, as in self cenorship? And since Sony demands the game be the same in all regions, there wont be an uncensored japanese version.

Thanks San Mateo.

Deleted member 9746 · Nov 23, 2018

Is anyone in Catherine underage or looks underage? It's been a long time since I played the game.

joe_zazen · Nov 23, 2018

Pringles said:
Is anyone in Catherine underage or looks underage? It's been a long time since I played the game.

No.

Bayouswampman · Nov 23, 2018

Nekopara dev said the same thing about no SNOY light beams but then the PS4 version was released and it had lots of magic steam everywhere so I expect that this response is just PR bullshit trying to make it sound like theres no changes

I cant wait to see how censorship apologists defend this one.

Yukinari · Nov 23, 2018

Someone should show sony the original PS3 game. We need to stop this vile game from 2011

vestan · Nov 23, 2018

Bayouswampman said:
Nekopara dev said the same thing about no SNOY light beams but then the PS4 version was released and it had lots of magic steam everywhere so I expect that this response is just PR bullshit trying to make it sound like theres no changes

I cant wait to see how censorship apologists defend this one.

snoy

yikes

Deleted member 9746 · Nov 23, 2018

joe_zazen said:
No.

Then it should be fine. I don't remember anything from the original game warranting censorhip.

Dominic Snyder · Nov 23, 2018

Bayouswampman said:
Nekopara dev said the same thing about no SNOY light beams but then the PS4 version was released and it had lots of magic steam everywhere so I expect that this response is just PR bullshit trying to make it sound like theres no changes

I cant wait to see how censorship apologists defend this one.

SNOY is liars!

Arthands · Nov 23, 2018

Hanbei said:
No mysterious lights, BUT they didn't say it won't be censored.

This. They only said no mysterious light, they didnt say it is uncensored

Deleted member 5334 · Nov 23, 2018

Honestly, it reads more in line of either holding back purposely based off of guidelines by Sony, or they made changes based off suggestions of Sony. That's how I take it.

I think what sucks more about this is these policies can be especially expensive to smaller publishers. Even though they clear local rating agencies (CERO in this instance), Sony may require additional changes, which costs money. I'm not so concerned about Atlus or most major publishers, in terms of having to put additional development time into these changes, but the smaller ones, it must be aggravating, especially with the whole English translation requirement.

This is where I take more issue towards.

(EDIT: One last note, I was kinda surprised both this and the original release got a C/15+ rating in Japan, given the Adult nature of the game and who the target audience is.)

logash · Nov 23, 2018

Has this effected anything other than visual novels or clearly fan service games like DOA Xtreme?

Deleted member 873 · Nov 23, 2018

Let's see if they went "as far as they could" to not be transphobes.

Deleted member 5334 · Nov 23, 2018

logash said:
Has this effected anything other than visual novels or clearly fan service games like DOA Xtreme?

At least right now, no (or information that's public). But I expect this to change at some point.

WonderLuigi said:
Let's see if they went "as far as they could" to not be transphobes.

Sadly, I don't have a lot of high hopes on this, especially given the handling of the gay characters in Persona 5...

Deleted member 3700 · Nov 23, 2018

Nekopara's developers also said the PS4 version does not have mysterious light, but it turns out to be different from Switch version.

Edit: Of course I don't want any censorship for Catherine, but no mysterious light =/= no censorship.

MegaXZero · Nov 23, 2018

Hanbei said:
No mysterious lights, BUT they didn't say it won't be censored.

This. Doesn't fill me with confidence.

Deleted member 9746 · Nov 23, 2018

WonderLuigi said:
Let's see if they went "as far as they could" to not be transphobes.

It's Atlus. They'll double down on it.

skillzilla81 · Nov 23, 2018

Why not just say it's uncensored if it's uncensored?

Wein Cruz · Nov 23, 2018

Are people seriously more concerned with Sony's censorship than they are over Erica's portrayal? If it's not changed in this new version atlus fucked up.

logash · Nov 23, 2018

Mendinso said:
At least right now, no (or information that's public). But I expect this to change at some point.

We'll see. The first game is pretty tame considering the subject matter. Some of the stuff I see censored in the Gematsu articles is worst.

Axisofweevils · Nov 23, 2018

It's a shame the game isn't coming to any non-Sony platforms so we can judge. That tweet seemed very carefully worded.

Bayouswampman · Nov 23, 2018

skillzilla81 said:
Why not just say it's uncensored if it's uncensored?

According to a live event with a different Japanese dev there is allegedly a gag order or NDA or something with Sony thats preventing devs from directly saying their games are censored

Deleted member 2793 · Nov 23, 2018

Wein Cruz said:
Are people seriously more concerned with Sony's censorship than they are over Erica's portrayal? If it's not changed in this new version atlus fucked up.

I bet this game will manage to be censored and still transphobic anyway. Sony will ask them to cover some boobs (which they shouldn't, Sony isn't CERO to control devs like this), but I doubt they care how trans people are treated in it.

Deleted member 42158 · Nov 23, 2018

joe_zazen said:
No.

The new girl certainly looks underage

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