How does nintendo gets away with amiibo that much in smash ultimate?

I mean the point is making an amiibo based on every fighter. More people would be pissed if they didn't make one for everyone.

The amiibos barely even do anything. Just give you an AI partner/opponent that you can customize. In Smash 4 you could already customize your characters without amiibos and in this game instead of the attack/agility/defense custom parts you get Spirits.

Honestly, like 14 persons in the entire World actually used Amiibo as in Smash 4 as intended.

Because you get a physical object that you can display/has resell value/you can borrow and/or trade with friends. For some people the price is already justified as figurines, and the Amiibo functionality is a plus.

Proof: I have every Amiibo and probably only scanned 1% of them.

Also this sounds like an A.I thread lol.

That's because people don't care and love to collect Amiibos.

Why have we had a string of "why does Nintendo get away with..." type threads lately? Is there some weird internet conspiracy I don't know of?

Hey said:

So amiibos are only AI ? I cant use them my self?

Also leveling up seems it makes them stronger , and in the trailer it doesnt say anything about it being AI.

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It's AI. Look up how it worked in Smash 4.

As to how they get away with selling collectibles that people want? Well, people want them.

I bought them to collect them. Gonna do the same for Ultimates. Most people don't even buy amiibo for their usage in games.

Hey said:

So amiibos are only AI ? I cant use them my self?

Also leveling up seems it makes them stronger , and in the trailer it doesnt say anything about it being AI.

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We had a good laugh about how Amiibo wiped the floor of their owners when people used to level up Amiibo in the beginning, bro

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Like seriously does anyone notice the amount of amiibos in smash ultimate ? Its 50+ amiibo each $13 .

You might say its not requiered ,but for me at least it is I am so addicted to rpg mechanics and was really disappointed by amiibo character leveling up exclusivity. Its just sad that I cant level up normal characters only spirits.

I dont know I feel like its big part of the game is missing not sure no one else seeing this as a problem ?

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The whole point is that you are levelling up that toy itself, not an in game fighter. That's how it's meant to feel. You then take the toy to fight someone else's toy. Your toys come to life.

Hey said:

No cause I legit cant understand how they get away with it.

Its literally physical microtransaction.

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? U are late to the party.

Just like people now accept season pass and dlc. Amiibo complained is soo Wii U era. Now, people just buy them if they like it. If they dont like it, they will just ignore it.

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No cause I legit cant understand how they get away with it.

Its literally physical microtransaction.

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Are you new to the toy gaming model?

Get away with what exactly it's a throwaway ai focused mechanic. All it really does is get you some rewards. In this case it will probably be spirits and coins again.

Hey said:

So amiibos are only AI ? I cant use them my self?

Also leveling up seems it makes them stronger , and in the trailer it doesnt say anything about it being AI.

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You made a thread to complain about something you haven't even looked into properly? Well done. This is peak Era.

Hey said:

No cause I legit cant understand how they get away with it.

Its literally physical microtransaction.

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They're collectibles. They have far more value as physical collectibles that you can display and look at than they would as digital collectibles. The in-game function is totally optional and has no competitive impact or impact on the single player modes. It's a purely optional additive.

I'm thankful for it. Nice relatively cheap figures for the likes of Lucas, Little Mac, and Shulk? That was unheard of til now.

Jimnymebob said:

Are you new to the toy gaming model?

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Well toys to life concept is dead for a reason lol.

I mean, only amiibo is alive atm.

My Duck Hunt amiibo is savage though.
He smashes you off the ledge, then just sits there, doesn't make an attempt to follow you to confirm the kill, watching as you plot your futile attempt to recover.

Because not even the people who own amiibo care about their implementation in Smash. Not sure what the problem is.

My biggest issue is the lack of a digital option for content gated by Amiibo. Some of them are quite hard to get so people get gouged, and I don't want to fill my house with plastic clutter. I have a couple of figures that I genuinely like (blue yarn Yoshi <3), but I don't want buckets full of the things.

For what it's worth, I think anybody who buys one of those RFC spoofer things to fake Amiibos is perfectly justified. I'm sure the NDF will come down hard on me for saying this.

How come Nintendo gets the worst threads lately?

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I mean I never complained about them before ,but come on 50+ character too much.

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No content is locked behind the Amiibos in Smash, the main reason people buy them is they're good quality figures for a reasonable price.

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I mean I never complained about them before ,but come on 50+ character too much.

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You are not forced to buy even a single one.

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I mean I never complained about them before ,but come on 50+ character too much.

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Figurines of characters like Shulk, Ness, Captain Falcon.. and then Cloud, Snake and Ryu in the same style is one of the most beautiful things to happen in gaming.

HMS_Pinafore said:

How come Nintendo gets the worst threads lately?

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Because Nintendo is the new Microsoft.

casiopao said:

You are not forced to buy even a single one.

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This.

Their use in gameplay is almost totally pointless.

It's just cool to be able to buy a figure of some of these less prevalent characters.

Hilarious_Bearious said:

My biggest issue is the lack of a digital option for content gated by Amiibo. Some of them are quite hard to get so people get gouged, and I don't want to fill my house with plastic clutter. I have a couple of figures that I genuinely like (blue yarn Yoshi <3), but I don't want buckets full of the things.

For what it's worth, I think anybody who buys one of those RFC spoofer things to fake Amiibos is perfectly justified. I'm sure the NDF will come down hard on me for saying this.

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Yeah, this is the real issue with amiibo. The amount of exclusive equipment that is locked off in Breath of the Wild for example is ridiculous.

Hilarious_Bearious said:

My biggest issue is the lack of a digital option for content gated by Amiibo. Some of them are quite hard to get so people get gouged, and I don't want to fill my house with plastic clutter. I have a couple of figures that I genuinely like (blue yarn Yoshi <3), but I don't want buckets full of the things.

For what it's worth, I think anybody who buys one of those RFC spoofer things to fake Amiibos is perfectly justified. I'm sure the NDF will come down hard on me for saying this.

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But if they added a digital option then it would defeat the whole purpose of Amiibo, and would actually become micro transactions. Amiibo are figurines first and foremost.

You want to be able to pay to just get some daily items in Zelda? Some tickets in Super Mario Party? Even games that have better implementation like in Smash, the whole point is that it's meant to be the figure that is coming to life and doing the fighting. Rather than digitally own all 70 fighters, you're meant to pick your favourite figurine(s) and fight with them.

I buy them, and it's barely because of their in-game features. It's cause it's cool merchandise for a lot of characters that don't otherwise regularly have merch. Where else am I gonna get a Captain Falcon figure?

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No cause I legit cant understand how they get away with it.

Its literally physical microtransaction.

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It's microtransaction... but you actually get something from it (the action figure).
I wish all microtransactions had this level of value.

Dardan Sandiego said:

Yeah, this is the real issue with amiibo. The amount of exclusive equipment that is locked off in Breath of the Wild for example is ridiculous.

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Its the way you look at them. If you genuinely believe that the only reason those items were made was to give a bonus to Amiibo owners, then it's not like how you say it is. Sort of like how we are believing Sakurai when he says the DLC characters aren't made yet. If Amiibo weren't a thing then neither would the whole Smash functionality or bonus Zelda items be a thing. And in Zelda they've made it so you don't need those items to 100% the game (you can't take photos of them)

It's expensive dlc for sure, but if you think of it as toys it's doable.

they're collectibles first and foremost, especially when it comes to Smash where there's no real need to bother with the Figure Player training outside of having slightly more unique CPU's to fight against.

It's worth noting however that a few of them can unlock stuff in other games. All of the Zelda amiibo can net you pretty cool outfits and/or weapons in Breath of the Wild, for example. They have use cases outside of Smash.

but yeah people just like merch, especially when it's of characters who'd never get it in the west otherwise (looking at you, Lucas)

Waluigilicious said:

Figurines of characters like Shulk, Ness, Captain Falcon.. and then Cloud, Snake and Ryu in the same style is one of the most beautiful things to happen in gaming.

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Yeah. I mean. If there is no amiibo. I dont think there will be anyone able to enjoy having cheap figure for some niche character they love.

Like.... without amiibo, no one will ever able to collect shulk, ness, snake, kroll figure lol. As nintendo wont ever make them.

Waluigilicious said:

But if they added a digital option then it would defeat the whole purpose of Amiibo, and would actually become micro transactions. Amiibo are figurines first and foremost.

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Then they should stop locking substantial things behind them. I'm still salty about Hyrule Warriors.

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I mean I never complained about them before ,but come on 50+ character too much.

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So what's your alternative? If you want have 70+ AI characters of each fighter (why you'd want that is beyond me, but you do you), then you'll need 70 different figures.
Otherwise we'll have people complaining that Nintendo didn't make certain characters for Amiibo.

Not to mention that if you already HAVE a Mario/Link/Isabelle etc amiibo for a different game, you can use that one instead. You don't have to buy the exact Smash Bros figure.

Psittacus said:

Then they should stop locking substantial things behind them. I'm still salty about Hyrule Warriors.

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I've never played Hyrule Warriors so I can't comment, but as an outsider it did feel like that game went a bit overboard with DLC too. I have no idea though.

Dardan Sandiego said:

Yeah, this is the real issue with amiibo. The amount of exclusive equipment that is locked off in Breath of the Wild for example is ridiculous.

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Yeah, I just looked this up. It's ridiculous! There's even stuff that can only be unlocked by spoofing apparently. Now I really wanna play BotW again...

Waluigilicious said:

But if they added a digital option then it would defeat the whole purpose of Amiibo, and would actually become micro transactions. Amiibo are figurines first and foremost.

You want to be able to pay to just get some daily items in Zelda? Some tickets in Super Mario Party? Even games that have better implementation like in Smash, the whole point is that it's meant to be the figure that is coming to life and doing the fighting. Rather than digitally own all 70 fighters, you're meant to pick your favourite figurine(s) and fight with them.

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I don't want to pay some scalper a fortune for a plastic toy I don't want, but I would like the gear said toy unlocks in BotW. Amiibos are fun little collectibles, but their manufactured scarcity and lack of alternatives frustrates me.

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I don't want to pay some scalper a fortune for a plastic toy I don't want, but I would like the gear said toy unlocks in BotW. Amiibos are fun little collectibles, but their manufactured scarcity and lack of alternatives frustrates me.

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Agreed 100%. Some people had suggested back then that they make an Amiibo card for every Amiibo as well as a figurine, that way it's still a collectible (and the crazies would collect both the cards and the figures) and would never have the stock issue, and would be favourable for people who do care more about the in game items than the figurines, but unfortunately Nintendo didn't go there. Missed opportunity.

Another missed opportunity is that they didn't make free to play games that only worked with Amiibo and was in depth, like an adventure game. That way it would literally be the more Amiibo you have the more content (which is what some people are complaining about already for full priced games), but they didnt do that either. The one Amiibo focused game they did make (and it wasn't free, but did come bundled with Amiibo) sucked. Nintendo got a lot of things wrong with Amiibo I'm my opinion, but the main complaint in the OP is missing the point of them.

seeing how there's a ton of complaining when there's shortages and stuff, i don't think they're getting away with anything. they get criticized for it and some amiibos bomb when people don't want them (ever paid attention to what happened with the Animal Crossing line?)

the stock situation seems to be pretty tricky because if they get a little bit short in supply, scalping explodes but if they're a little extra on supply, there's price reductions and stuff. scalping has been a problem with every nintendo product for years now, not just amiibos.

There is nothing in the game that really requires that you use them. They're fun collectible figures that have small-scale extra features in the games.

And naturally, a Smash series of Amiibos should have one for every fighter. What's there to complain about?

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Well toys to life concept is dead for a reason lol.

I mean, only amiibo is alive atm.

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That's becuse Amiibo are not tied to just one game, if you are in the Nintendo ecosystem then one Amiibo could work across multiple titles AND now work across multiple platforms. Lego, Disney and Spyro were locked to thier series.

Where were you in 2014? You're hella late on this.

I don't even remember them being useful in Smash for Wii U/3DS

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Agreed 100%. Some people had suggested back then that they make an Amiibo card for every Amiibo as well as a figurine, that way it's still a collectible (and the crazies would collect both the cards and the figures) and would never have the stock issue, and would be favourable for people who do care more about the in game items than the figurines, but unfortunately Nintendo didn't go there. Missed opportunity.

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An inexpensive collector card system would indeed be awesome. They wouldn't have to be terribly thick or costly. Heck, I'd probably take that up if I could store a bunch of cards in a folder on my book shelf.

Ignoring the numerous distribution screw ups and low print count of certain amiibo, they're not random draws with stupid low odds.

That makes it okay to me.

Who uses amiibos in games? Lol