People at launch, good times.
Where's the one where MS Don is going "No, Please" on a tv screen?
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Spider-Man PS4 $199 Black Friday Bundle Is So Popular It Is Already Selling Out Everywhere
- Thread starter patapon
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Where's the one where MS Don is going "No, Please" on a tv screen?
What? You're going to tell me I cannot tell manufacturers to allocate manpower and supply chain to increase production overnight!?
Tonight my mom asked if I could find one of these somewhere tonight. Uh... probably a little late for that. Fortunately my dad was able to get one, which is good because I doubt I was going to find one anywhere.
And it boggles my mind that stores still do the crazy run and get it thing for big ticket items.
And it boggles my mind that stores still do the crazy run and get it thing for big ticket items.
It's almost like manufacturers have contracts with multiple companies and can't just change things on a whim. Almost...
Agreed but I think this changes next gen. It feels like the dev cycles are coming around nicely for a lot of big hitters to arrive year 1 and 2.
From experience...
Black Friday pricing are not 'for a few days, we toggle the price of the PS4 to $199', then toggle it back to $299. It is literally a promotional cost, which is part of trade marketing - and basically Sony agrees to have a certain allocation of an expense to absorb internally $100 worth of discount to a certain number of PS4s that they want to push for their Black Friday.
Even if Sony still makes a profit at $199, that's not the point. The point is that based off what they feel are their estimates and projections for growth, install base, and where they want to hit in 2018, they've allocated what they feel is the necessary amount of "Black Friday trade marketing expense" to meet a certain amount of $100 BF discounts, ad campaign, etc.
Is that a 'mistake'? Who knows. Companies are not seers that can foresee that their decision to spend $10 mil in BF subsidies vs $20 mil in BF subsidies was secretly the pivot point that caused them to lose over the next few years. But what I can say is that companies do not overextend themselves unnecessarily. They have a certain budget, a certain amount of expected sales to hit, and they'll work to hit those numbers, and if they surpass them - they'll be happy, but they don't explicitly aim to surpass expectations because there's always next year's targets and the following year's targets.
Black Friday pricing are not 'for a few days, we toggle the price of the PS4 to $199', then toggle it back to $299. It is literally a promotional cost, which is part of trade marketing - and basically Sony agrees to have a certain allocation of an expense to absorb internally $100 worth of discount to a certain number of PS4s that they want to push for their Black Friday.
Even if Sony still makes a profit at $199, that's not the point. The point is that based off what they feel are their estimates and projections for growth, install base, and where they want to hit in 2018, they've allocated what they feel is the necessary amount of "Black Friday trade marketing expense" to meet a certain amount of $100 BF discounts, ad campaign, etc.
Is that a 'mistake'? Who knows. Companies are not seers that can foresee that their decision to spend $10 mil in BF subsidies vs $20 mil in BF subsidies was secretly the pivot point that caused them to lose over the next few years. But what I can say is that companies do not overextend themselves unnecessarily. They have a certain budget, a certain amount of expected sales to hit, and they'll work to hit those numbers, and if they surpass them - they'll be happy, but they don't explicitly aim to surpass expectations because there's always next year's targets and the following year's targets.
This is not true. I still easily play 5 hour sessions on a controller that is close to 2 years old.
Yeah i feel like i was either lucky with my remote or PS4's in 2017 had better batteries than at the beginning of this generation. My remote fully charged was enough to play the complete Uncharted Remastered just a few weeks ago. And it's a one year old remote that is used a lot.
Same here.
This was in Phen's BF thread....
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/9zjjdy/people_like_this_suck_3_full_carts_with_ps4_s/
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/9zjjdy/people_like_this_suck_3_full_carts_with_ps4_s/
Would you say this is also researching the market and seeing how people react to it?
Yes, but stores should also be smart enough to set a limit.
I think some consumers may be confusing the Pro's price with the Standard's/Slim's. ~$100 savings is good but it's not that picture's level of crazy.
Is this even allowed? Most of these deals are usually 1 per customer exactly to avoid shit like this.
I'm fairly certain that isn't allowed. The context of the picture is probably different than what's implied, and even if one customer somehow managed to get all those PS4s (which seems impossible, Walmarts should have had associate-manned lines for those like they do with TVs and stuff) they aren't getting through checkout.
DAMN !! is Spider man that good? maybe i should try it.
The OP did update saying that store employees took two of their carts away. Other people have mentioned that it's supposed to be limited to 5 per customer. But scalpers get around it by bringing their families and friends to the store and they all buy 5 each.
Not really lol. My brother wanted it and I guess he waffled until the last minute and decided he really wanted it so she started asking for help finding one.
Funny thing is he literally only wants to play Spiderman and doesn't care about a single other game on the system. He already has a XBO and like 4 games, and never touches the thing.
Well it said Walmart took two of their three carts from them. Still even allowing one cart is too much.
This reminds me that one picture of a lady with a trunk full of WIIUs. Probably a photo out of context but this isn't launch...they wouldn't even be that easy or worth it to flip. Lol
This was in Phen's BF thread....
https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/9zjjdy/people_like_this_suck_3_full_carts_with_ps4_s/
Are those being bought all at once? Or just staged in shopping carts by the store employees?
Looks to me like the store did that to make it easier for customers to grab one.
you probably end up making less than $50 flipping it after fees and shipping costs. just doesn't seem worth the trouble
$50 is $50.
After all, we're kinda all going through the trouble of saving tens of dollars for video games
At Amazon if you sell it for 300 they take 50. UPS ground shipping will be about 15 to 30 more. Not worth it imo unless you do Craigslist.
that same bundle runs normally at 340$, she can easily sell em anywhere bellow that price tag and will make a profit out of it. this is why stores should limit stock on deals
I bought one yesterday and I already had 4 before but I couldn't resist getting another one at that sweet price lol. I'm not surprised it's the top selling controller, that $40 deal is very tempting.
Not likely. There's a good chance Sony already knew that 199 + Spidey would be a hot combination. They might still underestimate it, but it was clearly a conscious decision on their part to focus their BF offering on basically just one console bundle with Spidey. ( instead of say, offer a GoW bundle or a Pro discount as well )
from experience on retail and from what other people I know tell me (not limited to VG only) most stores dont care about limit per costumer cause for em 1 person buying 100 items or 100 people buying 1 item each means the same to their bottom line. most cases where a limit is put, if its a 3rd party product, the limit is requested and set buy hte manufacturer. not the vendor.
That's a real shortsighted approach to retail. Pissing off 99 people to sell it all to one person leaves you with 99 people who will now think twice about visiting your store.
Used to work retail, when a product is in demand they limit per customer.
Atleast in the store i worked at.
It varies by leadership though, like they used to limit scalpers from buying iPads but then one year they just let them buy them.
assuming it was just so that they can reach their sales goal tho lol.
Whoever you're getting your information is poorly misinformed or doesn't understand the business side of things. When you're dealing with highly sought after items, it's not about the sales per se because they're mostly guaranteed, it's instead about pleasing as many customers and getting as much consumer goodwill and long term sales retention as possible.
Selling 100 items to 1 greedy scalper pisses off 99 other potential long term higher spending customers, whilst selling 100 items to 100 different customers means you piss off only that 1 scalper who never intended to buy much more in the way of games anyway, but earn the trust and custom of 99 other gamers or consumers instead, who in the long term have the potential to buy and spend far more.
if world were this nice scalpers would not be a thing nor the hate for em.
As a professional scalper, this has never been the case on Black Friday aside from the doorbuster items like the $100 TVs which use ticket systems. Thes PS4s? Walmart could give two shits if one guy buys 10. Not to mention the ROI isn't good enough unless you're selling it in person.
It's probably just poor management or apathetic staff then, because I used to manage a video game store long ago, and I used to micro manage orders per customers on super popular items for the very reasons discussed above, and my store would make more long term revenue from a larger pool of return customers partly as a result. Upper management etc would request and advise the same.
Should have taken all three carts and gave them two bundles imo.