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Sweeney Swift

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What are the big non-Disney releases next year?
January: Glass
February: Lego Movie 2, maybe How To Train Your Dragon 2
April: Shazam, maybe Hellboy
May: Detective Pikachu, Godzilla King of the Monsters, maybe John Wick 3
June: Secret Life of Pets 2, maybe the MIB reboot
July: oh shit July also has Spider-Man 2 for Disney fuck this month for everyone else lol
August: Hobbs & Shaw, maybe Dora and Angry Birds 2
September: It Chapter 2
October: Joker, maybe Zombieland 2
November: Terminator 6, maybe Kingsman 3
December: Jumanji sequel, maybe Little Women
 

Sibersk Esto

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Why is wikipedia telling me there's a Jacob's Ladder remake next year
 
Oct 31, 2017
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That's what he said though:



Three big films against The Finest Hours, The BFG, Alice Through the Looking Glass, Pete's Dragon, A Wrinkle in Time, Christopher Robin, and Nutcracker since the start of 2016.

So batting 3 out of 10 in recent years, and even Pirates was down close to $250M from the fourth one.

It's looking like Mary Poppins might make it 4 out of 11 though.

Yes I mean just Disney Live Action. No Lucas, Marvel, Pixar, or WDA. If you exclude Live Action remakes and Pirates, they suck a lot. Just this year you had Nutcracker and and Wrinkle in Time bombing spectacularly.

MP will make bank, but Artemis Fowl, whatever that is, will probably bomb.
 
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kswiston

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Speaking of Disney, they break their $3.00B annual domestic box office record this year.
 

broncobuster

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January: Glass
February: Lego Movie 2, maybe How To Train Your Dragon 2
April: Shazam, maybe Hellboy
May: Detective Pikachu, Godzilla King of the Monsters, maybe John Wick 3
June: Secret Life of Pets 2, maybe the MIB reboot
July: oh shit July also has Spider-Man 2 for Disney fuck this month for everyone else lol
August: Hobbs & Shaw, maybe Dora and Angry Birds 2
September: It Chapter 2
October: Joker, maybe Zombieland 2
November: Terminator 6, maybe Kingsman 3
December: Jumanji sequel, maybe Little Women

Pretty sure Spider-Man is still under Sony.

Also adding Charlie's Angels for Nov because why not.
 
Dec 12, 2017
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but guys

didn't you get the memo

Star Wars is dead

people know

people are experts

Franchise is too toxic at the moment!

Are you guys from the future?

Cause I remember similar posts regarding the absurd notion of Solo failing at the box office.

To be clear: I am NOT saying Episode 9 will do Solo numbers BUT the idea of it being a return to massive TFA box office...eh. I think somewhere around R1-TLJ is reasonable.
 

J_Viper

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Shazam
Godzilla
Lego Movie 2
How to train your dragon 3
Detective Pikachu
Hobbs and Shaw spinoff
MIB with Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson
Angry Birds sequel
Forgot one
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Lifejumper

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Are you guys from the future?

Cause I remember similar posts regarding the absurd notion of Solo failing at the box office.

To be clear: I am NOT saying Episode 9 will do Solo numbers BUT the idea of it being a return to massive TFA box office...eh. I think somewhere around R1-TLJ is reasonable.
It will make around 1,4 - 1,5 bil I think, a little bit higher than TLJ.

I read somewhere that LF is going to sell IX as "the final chapter in the skywalker saga".

People will call it a failure and that the franchise is doomed tho.
 
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It will make 1,4 - 1,5 bil I think, a little bit higher than TLJ.

I read somewhere that LF is going to sell IX as "the final chapter in the skywalker saga".

People will call it a failure and that the franchise is doomed tho.

I guess...some people tried saying cause it didn't beat AVATAR, SW7 underperformed.

Solo was a gotdamn failure.

1.5 billion isn't.
 

Seeya

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I made a bet eons ago (pre Solo) that IX would come in flat/under TLJ because of the international market. I guess we'll find out eventually.
 

MMarston

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Are you guys from the future?

Cause I remember similar posts regarding the absurd notion of Solo failing at the box office.
I kinda already saw Solo falling on its face though. That movie had a lot going against it from a logistical perspective.

But to be fair, I did not see it falling as far into oblivion as it did.

BUT the idea of it being a return to massive TFA box office...eh. I think somewhere around R1-TLJ is reasonable.

I think we're on the same boat as that one.

TFA is a "you had to be there" moment that's incredibly hard to replicate for subsequent sequels especially with a moderately quick turnaround.
 

Naijaboy

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Don't forget Wicked in December.
January: Glass
February: Lego Movie 2, maybe How To Train Your Dragon 2
April: Shazam, maybe Hellboy
May: Detective Pikachu, Godzilla King of the Monsters, maybe John Wick 3
June: Secret Life of Pets 2, maybe the MIB reboot
July: oh shit July also has Spider-Man 2 for Disney fuck this month for everyone else lol
August: Hobbs & Shaw, maybe Dora and Angry Birds 2
September: It Chapter 2
October: Joker, maybe Zombieland 2
November: Terminator 6, maybe Kingsman 3
December: Jumanji sequel, maybe Little Women

Don't forget Wicked in December.

Next year is stacked holy shit!

For real. I don't think 2019's numbers will be topped any time soon.
 

Icemonk191

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Lion King is as big as it gets for older animated films, lesser films than it have done gangbusters in this Disney live action remake series. It's gonna smash the BO.
True, I forgot that the Jungle Book made almost a billion dollars. If that IP can get that close than the sky the limit for The Lion King.
 

Zetta

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I just preordered the Venom Bluray (Dec 18th) and I just remembered it came out a little over a month ago, I like how Sony is releasing this.
 

Chaos Legion

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Full 2019 huge-ish releases
Disney's gonna fucking feast next year

March: Captain Marvel, Dumbo
May: Avengers 4, Aladdin
June: Toy Story 4
July: Lion King
November: Frozen 2
December: Star Wars Ep 9

Universal:
January: Glass
February: How To Train Your Dragon 2
May: A Dog's Purpose 2
June: The Secret Life of Pets 2
August: Hobbs and Shaw
September: Downton Abbey, Abominable
November: Last Christmas
December: Cats

Warner Bros.:
February: Lego Movie 2
April: Shazam!
May: Detective Pikachu, Godzilla: King of Monsters
June: Son of Shaft
September: It: Chapter 2
October: The Joker

20th Century Fox:
January: The Kid Who Would Be King
February: Alita
May: Ad Astra
June: Dark Phoenix, Ford v. Ferrari
August: New Mutants
September: Spies in Disguise
November: Kingsman 3
December: The Call of the Wild

Sony Pictures:
January: A Dog's Way Home *
June: Men in Black Reboot
July: Spider-Man: Far From Home, Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, Wish Dragon
August: The Angry Birds 2
October: Zombieland Too **
November: Charlie's Angels
December: Jumanji 2, Little Women

Paramount:
February: The Rhythm Section**
March: Wonder Park
May: Rocketman
August: Dora the Explorer
October: Are You Afraid of the Dark?***
November: Sonic**, Terminator

Lionsgate:
February: Cold Pursuit**
March: Chaos Walking**, Madea**
April: Hellboy
May: John Wick 3, The Kid
June: Starsky**
November: Midway

* It might not, but it looks adorable
** Have a lot of doubts
*** Nostalgia, leave me alone

Key observations:
- Disney + Fox is going to murder the box office in 2019
- Warner and Universal are going to remain pretty competitive for the #2 studio spot.
- Sony's pretty meh to be honest
- I have no faith in Lionsgate's portfolio, but I added a lot of movies so there weren't just two names there. They could out earn Paramount though, which equally has a poor lineup

I'm going to say way to early domestic haul estimates:
Disney/Fox: $4.8bn
Warner: $1.6bn
Universal: $1.4bn
Sony: $1.0bn
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Paramount/Lionsgate: $500mm
 

Jiggy

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I'm going to say way to early domestic haul estimates:
Disney/Fox: $4.8bn
Warner: $1.6bn
Universal: $1.4bn
Sony: $1.0bn

I think you're way over-predicting Universal, I don't see how they get $1.4B on that lineup. HTTYD3 isn't going to be very big in the US, and the Hobbs & Shaw spinoff is going to be well below the mainline films, SLOP2 looks like their only guaranteed $300m+ grosser. They're not gonna compete with WB for the #2 spot.

Sony should get well over a billion, Far From Home and Jumanji is at least $600m, if not $700m, there's a new Tarantino movie starring Leonardo Dicaprio (100-200m right there). Angry Birds is probably safe for $100m just like the first one, the MiB and Charlie's Angels reboots are the big question marks
 

Seeya

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I think you're way over-predicting Universal, I don't see how they get $1.4B on that lineup. HTTYD3 isn't going to be very big in the US, and the Hobbs & Shaw spinoff is going to be well below the mainline films, SLOP2 looks like their only guaranteed $300m+ grosser. They're not gonna compete with WB for the #2 spot.

Sony should get well over a billion, Far From Home and Jumanji is at least $600m, if not $700m, there's a new Tarantino movie starring Leonardo Dicaprio (100-200m right there). Angry Birds is probably safe for $100m just like the first one, the MiB and Charlie's Angels reboots are the big question marks

Full 2019 huge-ish releases

Sony Pictures:
January: A Dog's Way Home *
June: Men in Black Reboot
July: Spider-Man: Far From Home, Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, Wish Dragon
August: The Angry Birds 2
October: Zombieland Too **
November: Charlie's Angels
December: Jumanji 2, Little Women

* It might not, but it looks adorable
** Have a lot of doubts
*** Nostalgia, leave me alone

- Sony's pretty meh to be honest
Sony: $1.0bn
**

Sony can honestly do 1.5B–2B, FFH/Jumanji are a big one two punch, and they have a decent backlog of smaller earners and potential hits.

Escape Plan
A Dog's Way Home
Miss Bala
Greyhound
The Intruder
Men In Black
BrightBurn
Grudge
Spider-Man: Far From Home
Angry Birds 2
Zombieland 2
Once upon a time in Hollywood
Charlie's Angels
Jumanji 2
Masters of the Universe
You Are My Friend
Little Women
 
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Chaos Legion

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I think you're way over-predicting Universal, I don't see how they get $1.4B on that lineup. HTTYD3 isn't going to be very big in the US, and the Hobbs & Shaw spinoff is going to be well below the mainline films, SLOP2 looks like their only guaranteed $300m+ grosser. They're not gonna compete with WB for the #2 spot.

Sony should get well over a billion, Far From Home and Jumanji is at least $600m, if not $700m, there's a new Tarantino movie starring Leonardo Dicaprio (100-200m right there). Angry Birds is probably safe for $100m just like the first one, the MiB and Charlie's Angels reboots are the big question marks
Hmm. So, I acknowledge I'm probably a little more bullish on Universal than I should be, but I think between HTTYD3, Hobbs and Shaw, SLoP2 and Abominable is almost $1 billion domestic right there.

- HTTYD2 made $177mm
- SLoP made $368mm
- Fate of the Furious made $226mm (let's give it a discount and say $200mm)
- For Abominable, I'm assuming a Dreamworks title can bring in $150mm

Downton Abbey and Cats are going to be big, IMO. And as Sweeney Swift mentioned, I included only one of the Blumhouse productions, the Seth Rogen comedy, etc.

I think there's a lot of upside to the studio's line-up.

As for Sony, eh. We'll see. Jumanji is December so full run won't count entirely to 2019.
 

Rvaan

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I dare you to find one for Jason Derulo now.
Done.
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I don't see how that film is going to work. The play has barely any plot. Divorced from the whole spectacle of the stage isn't it just going to be weird and stupid?
Weird and stupid can make money though. For example, Venom is making bank.

Let's not neglect the real big boy. Ahem.

Blumhouse
January: Glass
February: Happy Death Day 2U
March: Us (Jordan Peele's next film after Get Out)
September: The Hunt
I'll probably end up seeing 3 of those 4 movies in theater.
 

Seeya

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What the hell why are you skipping Glass?

Glass looks awful. The dialogue is wretched and the scenario looks predictable and simplistic (in a bad way). Split worked because it was camp schlock with an incredible lead; Unbreakable was a slow burn-character study-drama-arthouse film in comparison. Bringing the two together could work, but what we're getting looks to Unbreakables' characters adapted to a tone and production that can't capture any of what made the original work.

We'll see though.
 
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OrangeAtlas

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Glass looks awful. The dialogue is wretched and the scenario as it plays out seems to be the most on the nose thing ever. Split worked because it was camp with an incredible lead, but Unbreakable was a slow burn drama arthouse film in comparison. Glass looks like it's awkwardly importing Unbreakable into a tone and production that can't capture any of what made the original movie work.

We'll see though.

Your opinion is so wildly off the mark I'm genuinely concerned for you.
 
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The column series for that Jenni Miller article on NBC news is 'hot take'... Maybe it is indeed time to retire that term.
 
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