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CDPR: Cyberpunk 2077 to be as polished as RDR2, experts predict 19 million sold
- Thread starter vestan
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I have no doubt about the sales, but I don't think CDPR comes close to a studio like Rockstar when it comes to polish if The Witcher 3 is any indication. While it's one of my favorite games of all time, there were some very frustrating broken quests that took months for them to fix, and I highly doubt their budget is even remotely close to that of RDR2. You need that budget to ensure polish for such an ambitious, huge title. The Witcher 3 had a relatively low budget compared to most huge open world AAA games, and it shows in certain situations.
Many of you under-estimate CDPR, I think 20 Million is a given in a quarter. Here are my reasons:
-> Will be the most anticipated game of 2020
-> Next Gen launch title
-> Multiplatform ( including PC) unlike RDR2
-> No Competition in its genre
-> More than 7 years in development ( So enough polish & size)
-> From the 1 hr we have seen of it, I think it looks and plays phenomenal.
-> Being the next game after the acclaimed Witcher 3
-> Will be the most anticipated game of 2020
-> Next Gen launch title
-> Multiplatform ( including PC) unlike RDR2
-> No Competition in its genre
-> More than 7 years in development ( So enough polish & size)
-> From the 1 hr we have seen of it, I think it looks and plays phenomenal.
-> Being the next game after the acclaimed Witcher 3
It launching together with the PS5/X1XXXX would be interesting to see.
Why doesnt it bode well that the game will be polished a lot?
W3 is considered one of the more expensive productions , I thought?
There's definitely some polish there... like the attention to detail, visually at least.
Some other areas... animation, leave something to desire.
Just no cores please. Who am I kidding? It's going to be an amazing but amazingly over produced open world game where the mundane will become a game mechanic like brushing your teeth or something to maintain your cool stat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop
Quite a bit cheaper compared to similar games in the genre.
Rockstar isn't perfect (I don't expect any open world games to be). Worse, they don't seem to even care about fixing stuff (unless it affects microtransaction sales then they are right on it). Least CDPR cares about fixing their bugs and letting people know they know it needs to be fixed. And I can trust them when they say they are going to fix it (unlike Rockstar who has shown will say something and not follow through). Let's please stop pretending Rockstar is flawless. They aren't. And I do love their games (which is why I compromised on my principles and bought RDR2 even though I was pissed how they treated GTA V single player and how they purposely imbalanced online just to sell shark cards... and this isn't a recent thing, it's just more recent they got greedy enough more people are finally seeing it). The one thing ROckstar does have going for them is they do put out the game pretty polished so at least not much needs to be fixed. But they never really fixed the garage thing or even improved it even though online had a better garage system (though I think that was on purpose to get people to go online if they wanted to collect cars). And they have yet to even say when they are going to fix the bug about missing people in camp (they did pay lip service to it at least. But at first htey just told people, "Just do this mission right and it won't happen..." What about us who are already far past that mission, R*?!).
RDR 2 is easily one of the best animated game in the industry, with insane amount of unique animations.
The bold part is not true- There were several patches which would fix something and introduce an entirely new problem. Mainly performance and graphics. Some of the patches mishaps have been even covered by Digital Foundry.
I do agree the single player support was severely lacking for GTA V. If I'm not mistaken you are correct about DLC, we were promised them, but they were probably cancelled once they realized how much money Online was making. This has nothing to do with polish per say, though. I find RDR2 an extremely polished game and encountered more glitches in TW3, at least so far.
I'll take performance and graphics being bad over a system that doesn't work that still doesn't work (we're supposed to be able to keep cars in the character's personal garages). hell.. CDPR changed some systems for the better when people complained (we now have boxes you can get your stuff from across the map). ROckstar had an easy fix for a bad game design in single player for keeping cars in online and they (purposely imo) never even put that system in single player (I'm not even talking about the bug here, I'm takling about how single player garage systems are set up in the first place. It's a shitty system that makes it pointless really to keep cars anyways).
They only did the barebones bug fixes and didn't even really fix the big bug most people were complaining about and then forgot about single player entirely. And it's very obvious they cancelled SP DLC because online was more lucrative. That doesn't make it better to me. Especially as online is more lucrative cause they designed it imbalanced to encourage more shark card sales. Worse, one of the imbalances is the game design actually encourages griefers! That's horrible game design when you rely on griefers to sell your stuff.
Anyone that cant be bothered to read the OP before posting deserves to be embarrased
I'm just saying because the witchery was "polished" too I still find its core combat boring as I did RDR2 etc anyway I'm excited for this but I'll drop my issue hope it's great
This goes out to my futute self who reads this thread years from now after this statement has been dug up and blown up.
I believe it.
I never buy SP only games for full price but I'm planning to get CP2077 at launch, along with many of my friends.
I'm glad they committed to first-person view. I certainly think the single player as a whole could well turn out better than RDR 2.
Edit: Ok, not in the first quarter of launch lol.
I never buy SP only games for full price but I'm planning to get CP2077 at launch, along with many of my friends.
I'm glad they committed to first-person view. I certainly think the single player as a whole could well turn out better than RDR 2.
Edit: Ok, not in the first quarter of launch lol.
Cyberpunk has the potential, and I expect it to be vastly better than anything R* ever did, but RPGs and Cyberpunk are still a somewhat niche genre-combinations.
It'll be widely successful, but 19 mil in 3 months might be pushing it. Depends a lot on their marketing strategy, tho. It could certainly hit that goal if they become the new talk-of-the-month after launch.
I'll be there day 1 regardless.
It'll be widely successful, but 19 mil in 3 months might be pushing it. Depends a lot on their marketing strategy, tho. It could certainly hit that goal if they become the new talk-of-the-month after launch.
I'll be there day 1 regardless.
Not sure at 19, but I think 15 is achievable. Who knows.
Bioware will be dead by the time this releases and Bethesda will probably be releasing Skyrim 4KHD+ for PS5 and XB2.
The WRPG AAA market is utter trash. Talent has either dried up or those that remain care more about lootboxes and MTs.
Bioware will be dead by the time this releases and Bethesda will probably be releasing Skyrim 4KHD+ for PS5 and XB2.
The WRPG AAA market is utter trash. Talent has either dried up or those that remain care more about lootboxes and MTs.
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I understand, but i dont think the game design is really affected by this. I read the article in the OP as that they're going to pay attention to a lot of details and iron out bugs etc.. On the flip side, theres games that arent as polished, but that arent really that fun to play (which is a subjective thing of course).
It's just a weird way to use that statement as title.
People asked what do you think of RDR2, and CDPR said RDR2 is great, we aim to make our game as good as them.
It's a perfectly natural response in the context.
And if they can keep the quality of that 48min demo through out the whole game, it'd be a much better game than RDR2 for me personally. I am just a sucker for good imaginary world building and it's been a while since we get a good scifi world in video game.
I do think 19 million in one quarter is a bit too optimistic, but only a bit. If CP2077 came out as good as they wished it to be, I mean metacritic 95+ game of generation contender kind of good, I can see it break 15 million. Not a knock on CDPR, it's just Rockster spent decades built up its fanbase, it'd be hard to just get there in one step.
People asked what do you think of RDR2, and CDPR said RDR2 is great, we aim to make our game as good as them.
It's a perfectly natural response in the context.
And if they can keep the quality of that 48min demo through out the whole game, it'd be a much better game than RDR2 for me personally. I am just a sucker for good imaginary world building and it's been a while since we get a good scifi world in video game.
I do think 19 million in one quarter is a bit too optimistic, but only a bit. If CP2077 came out as good as they wished it to be, I mean metacritic 95+ game of generation contender kind of good, I can see it break 15 million. Not a knock on CDPR, it's just Rockster spent decades built up its fanbase, it'd be hard to just get there in one step.
I agree with you polishes is more technical aspect of the game, but I know I'll play an unpolished game that's fun to play before a polished one, alpha protocol is a shitty bug filled game that I love it's fun to play and the dialog options etc
But I agree with you prehaps I should phrase my statements better
After all the fans they made from the witcher 3 and how good the game sounds and looks 19 million sounds pretty realistic.
I mean reading the OP is a lot of work. It also potentially prevents you from making potentially pithy comments.
We'll see; but I doubt it. It'd take a perfect storm of everything going right including getting aggregate scores similar to Red Dead. I wonder if CDPR's expectations are close to that number internally.
At 19m in 1 Quarter it better be a cross gen-ish title. Released on PS4/ONE near the release of the next gen.
They're aiming for the stars, is it possible? I have no idea. Be amazing if they actually can reach such a number.
No worries :) I get what you're saying, i just wanted to say that i think that the game design of Cyberpunk 2077 will be affected due to the extra polish that is supposedly going be done.
Speaking of Red Dead Redemption 1, what was much different there by the way? Its been years since i played it, but i cant remember there being any extra mechanics or anything like that.
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Consider the scope of this game. It's performance, visual consistency and low amount of bugs is industry gold standard. I think we have different ideas of what polish means.
I think animation are incredible. But it's full of annoying bugs and 4K mode on pro, I never tired to say, it's almost offensive for a 4k TV owner. It's not normal to see a game in 4k more blurried of the 1080p setting. Poor Pro owners.
I thought polished means bugs free but eh. Definitely we have a different ideas of polish without offence.