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Starphanluke

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(not marvel related apparently)

Some of the twitter insiders have been teasing all week....
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Saw that tweet earlier and thought is might be Star Wars. The first Force Awakens trailer was on Black Friday 2014, I believe. However, the industry rumors make more sense and are still pretty exciting. That'll blow up Twitter.
 

Hero_of_the_Day

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
17,324
Maaaan. Just saw Creed 2. I can't believe how much I didn't like that movie. I wanted to leave halfway through it was so bad, and boring. Theater was pretty empty, so curious to see how it does.
 

broncobuster

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Oct 26, 2017
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John Krasinski spiderman would be pretty dope. I want an old spiderman, kinda bored of keeping him high school-college age now

Spider-Man PS4 and what I've seen of Spider-verse makes me wish that'd be the direction for the live action movies.

If Sony is wild enough to start a new Spidey series alongside the MCU stuff, going older would at least be a decent differentiation. I'd say bring Garfield back but guy's moved onto a better career.
 

Frozenprince

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Oct 25, 2017
9,158
You act like Guy Ritchie didn't put in an asian character into King Arthur just to teach the main character Kung fu
I am just in awe that this was given $100M. This had to be some money laundering shit, HAD to be.

They have to stop trying to turn these English public domain characters into fucking Batman and the Justice League.
 

Seeya

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
7,984
18th. This past Sunday.

I'm working on some stuff tonight but I'll post tomorrow. I'm assuming BOM as the primary source; here are the number for Venom, so we are working from the same foundation.

569,394,188 INT
210,077,668 DOM
205,338,426 CHINA

574,668,382 ROW
600,000,000 BENCHMARK

25,331,618 NEEDED
 
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Slim Action

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Jul 4, 2018
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These terrible public domain character films will continue to be made, forever. It's way too easy to pitch in a meeting - "everyone already knows the character and the license costs $0 and we can do whatever we want with it"
 

jett

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Oct 25, 2017
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I gotta wonder which is worse, Hack Ritchie's King "Whorehouse Kid" Arthur or Robin "Full Metal Crossbow" Hood.

Good god.

How fucking hard is it to make one of these movies?

Captain Kirk put on a fake fucking Scottish Accent (and does a pretty good job of it) and made a better Robin Hood movie for 1/3rd the budget and it went straight to Netflix.

IT SHOULD NOT BE HARD TO MAKE THESE MOVIES GOOD.
Outlaw King actually has a 120M budget (and doesn't even remotely look it, as your post proves!).

And it's not good either to be honest.
 

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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I am just in awe that this was given $100M. This had to be some money laundering shit, HAD to be.

They have to stop trying to turn these English public domain characters into fucking Batman and the Justice League.
I joke about this all the time, but honestly something has to be going on cause these movies keep happening and they never make any money
 

El Bombastico

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Oct 25, 2017
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Good god.

How fucking hard is it to make one of these movies?

Captain Kirk put on a fake fucking Scottish Accent (and does a pretty good job of it) and made a better Robin Hood movie for 1/3rd the budget and it went straight to Netflix.

IT SHOULD NOT BE HARD TO MAKE THESE MOVIES GOOD.

My theory is that studio execs think audiences don't want to see a King Arthur/Robin Hood story again (nevermind that these stories have inspired basically every epic/fantasy movie in the western world, but whatevs) and think they need to do something "different."

Said different things always involve added in anarchronisms from the stupid (Robin's Hot Topic outfit) to the offensive (Asian Kung Fu Guy in King Arthur), all in a rather obvious and sad attempt to appeal to the 18-25 demographic. And even ignoring all that different for the sake of being different shit, they are so focused on the aesthetics of the movie they forget to actually write a good script, which is the REAL reason why these movies bomb, since they're just one cliche after another and audiences get bored.

I am just in awe that this was given $100M. This had to be some money laundering shit, HAD to be.

They have to stop trying to turn these English public domain characters into fucking Batman and the Justice League.

In fairness, The Knights of the Round table were mostly a bunch of independent heroes and mythic figures that all got lumped into King Arthur's story down the years. So they basically were the Justice League centuries before superheroes...
 

Frozenprince

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Oct 25, 2017
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Robin Hood made the Crusades look like the Iraq war?

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Having some overwrought anti-Arabic sentiment in a fucking Robin Hood movie is not something I ever thought would be a thing.

My theory is that studio execs think audiences don't want to see a King Arthur/Robin Hood story again (nevermind that these stories have inspired basically every epic/fantasy movie in the western world, but whatevs) and think they need to do something "different."

Said different things always involve added in anarchronisms from the stupid (Robin's Hot Topic outfit) to the offensive (Asian Kung Fu Guy in King Arthur), all in a rather obvious and sad attempt to appeal to the 18-25 demographic. And even ignoring all that different for the sake of being different shit, they are so focused on the aesthetics of the movie they forget to actually write a good script, which is the REAL reason why these movies bomb, since they're just one cliche after another and audiences get bored.



In fairness, The Knights of the Round table were mostly a bunch of independent heroes and mythic figures that all got lumped into King Arthur's story down the years. So they basically were the Justice League centuries before superheroes...
I guess I don't understand why it has to be different though, we haven't seen a straight adaptation of either story in almost 40 years. You can't give a deconstructed alternative to something when you don't even bother making a traditional version of it first. We can't judge if audiences will react or not because we haven't SEEN one in almost two full generations. Just make a fucking Robin Hood movie. I don't need to see English Batman after you tried and failed to make English Batman last fucking year.
I gotta wonder which is worse, Hack Ritchie's King "Whorehouse Kid" Arthur or Robin "Full Metal Crossbow" Hood.


Outlaw King actually has a 120M budget (and doesn't even remotely look it, as your post proves!).

And it's not good either to be honest.
It's not great, but it's certainly better than this abomination of a film. Tbh.
 

El Bombastico

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Oct 25, 2017
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I guess I don't understand why it has to be different though, we haven't seen a straight adaptation of either story in almost 40 years. You can't give a deconstructed alternative to something when you don't even bother making a traditional version of it first. We can't judge if audiences will react or not because we haven't SEEN one in almost two full generations. Just make a fucking Robin Hood movie. I don't need to see English Batman after you tried and failed to make English Batman last fucking year.

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It doesn't have to be. But idiot studio execs think it does because "kids think these old medieval stories are boring. We gotta make them hip and cool!'
 

Jeffolation

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Oct 30, 2017
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King Arthur vs. Robin Hood: The OG Dawn of Justice

Give it a budget of 220 million, get Kevin Costner involved and have Lionsgate put it out. It'll print money, you're welcome Hollywood.
 

Disco

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Oct 25, 2017
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Spider-Man PS4 and what I've seen of Spider-verse makes me wish that'd be the direction for the live action movies.

If Sony is wild enough to start a new Spidey series alongside the MCU stuff, going older would at least be a decent differentiation. I'd say bring Garfield back but guy's moved onto a better career.

Yeah, Sony is leaving a lot of money on the table by not throwing in spiderman into a future movie with Hardys venom. With or without Holland it would be big bank for them judging by how well this venom flick alone is doing

Going with an adult spiderman would be nice if Marvel didn't play ball with them and they needed them to approve it
 
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kswiston

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There's talk that Ralph Breaks the Internet will come in over $19.5M today.

Moana's Wednesday was $15.5M. With the same legs as Moana, a $19.5M Wednesday would give Ralph a tad over $100M for its 5-day opening.

EDIT: Coco and Moana both did around 3x their five day openings domestically. Frozen did more than that.
 

Seeya

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Oct 27, 2017
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Spider-Man PS4 and what I've seen of Spider-verse makes me wish that'd be the direction for the live action movies.

If Sony is wild enough to start a new Spidey series alongside the MCU stuff, going older would at least be a decent differentiation. I'd say bring Garfield back but guy's moved onto a better career.

Maguire/Silver Age Spider-Man plz. In this extreme hypothetical.
 

Richter1887

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Oct 27, 2017
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Maguire/Silver Age Spider-Man plz. In this extreme hypothetical.
That would be great.

Bring him back, give him a beard along with a grizzled look for tons of experience and replace Mary Jane with a different one that is married to him (I never liked that version) and it could be a really awesome Spider Man because it would hit the nostalgia while introducing something new.
 

Schlorgan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Maguire/Silver Age Spider-Man plz. In this extreme hypothetical.
Only if Raimi was involved.

There's talk that Ralph Breaks the Internet will come in over $19.5M today.

Moana's Wednesday was $15.5M. With the same legs as Moana, a $19.5M Wednesday would give Ralph a tad over $100M for its 5-day opening.

EDIT: Coco and Moana both did around 3x their five day openings domestically. Frozen did more than that.

That's insane.
 

ConHaki66

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Oct 27, 2017
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Having some overwrought anti-Arabic sentiment in a fucking Robin Hood movie is not something I ever thought would be a thing.


I guess I don't understand why it has to be different though, we haven't seen a straight adaptation of either story in almost 40 years. You can't give a deconstructed alternative to something when you don't even bother making a traditional version of it first. We can't judge if audiences will react or not because we haven't SEEN one in almost two full generations. Just make a fucking Robin Hood movie. I don't need to see English Batman after you tried and failed to make English Batman last fucking year.

It's not great, but it's certainly better than this abomination of a film. Tbh.
What? Outlaw king looks the way it should
 

AndyVirus

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Oct 27, 2017
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Saw that tweet earlier and thought is might be Star Wars. The first Force Awakens trailer was on Black Friday 2014, I believe. However, the industry rumors make more sense and are still pretty exciting. That'll blow up Twitter.
They're surely going to leave Star Wars alone and let it breathe for a few months since right now it's almost like a dirty word. Put it in front of Captain Marvel or Avengers.
 

Starphanluke

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They're surely going to leave Star Wars alone and let it breathe for a few months since right now it's almost like a dirty word. Put it in front of Captain Marvel or Avengers.

Yeah, I think by the time Celebration in April rolls around some of the air will have cleared and the hype will be building again. I think that's the right time to release it.
 

Jiggy

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Oct 25, 2017
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FB2 already falling behind Grinch

WB execs are currently drawing straws to see who has to tell Rowling it's time to get her a co-screenwriter
 

Dwebble

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Oct 25, 2017
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Co-screenwriter would be good, but the movie is going to do well enough oversees + merch that it will easily be profitable.
With something as messy as The Crimes of Grindelwald, the problem isn't necessarily with this movie- it's how the sequel does, and considering that they were planning for this to be a five-movie series, that might end up being a problem.
 

bigstef71

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Jul 5, 2018
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I watched Grindlewald last night. I definitely could see the criticism for it since it was all over the place plot wise I thought. I understand they were setting things up for future movies but still you should focus on making an interesting story first. Plus it lacked any big action scenes besides the opening of the film and maybe the ending. Hopefully they do get another screenwriter maybe Kloves to help JK out for the next three films. I also wonder if Yates will still direct.
 

Heisenberg726

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Oct 28, 2017
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Maaaan. Just saw Creed 2. I can't believe how much I didn't like that movie. I wanted to leave halfway through it was so bad, and boring. Theater was pretty empty, so curious to see how it does.

Really? I thought it was amazing, and I had a completely full theatre with people cheering and clapping during the fights.

It also is on track to have the highest thanksgiving week box office total of all time for a live action movie. It'll do just fine.
 

Slayven

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Oct 25, 2017
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FB2 already falling behind Grinch

WB execs are currently drawing straws to see who has to tell Rowling it's time to get her a co-screenwriter
I wonder if they will try to shift the HP universe into a more modern frame? the generation that grew up with it are getting to about the age where they have kids.
 

Jiggy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Co-screenwriter would be good, but the movie is going to do well enough oversees + merch that it will easily be profitable.

It's going to be a lot less profitable than the first on a larger budget. As a one-off spinoff it wouldn't be a big deal. But this is the second film in a major tentpole franchise. Huge declines in major markets is a giant red flag for the direction this series is going in. Imagine if FB3 declines as much as this one did, it'd be a Solo tier flop.
 

Hero_of_the_Day

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Oct 27, 2017
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Really? I thought it was amazing, and I had a completely full theatre with people cheering and clapping during the fights.

It also is on track to have the highest thanksgiving week box office total of all time for a live action movie. It'll do just fine.

Yeah. I really liked the first one. I just didn't like this one, at all. Thought they made Adonis totally unlikable. The whole story was just goofy. Man, I just didn't dig it. My biggest letdown of the year. Hope Wreck it Ralph 2 is better.

It was playing on a ton of screen last night, and there was some huge holiday event happening for some other showing. The theater as a whole was packed, but our showing itself was super empty. I mean maybe 20 people total. Was weird cause when we saw Rhapsody last week it was fucking packed. Granted, I think we saw it on the weekend, not 6 on a Wednesday.
 
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shintoki

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Oct 25, 2017
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Creed II gonna do bank. Such a crowd pleaser.

And as Potter falls, I'm expecting to hear how the next one will be the last still.
 

Heshinsi

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Oct 25, 2017
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Robert Downey Jr knows what's up (he just posted this pic on his FB page). Venom getting that deserved respect lol.

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