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Adrian Peterson still hits his kids with a belt/switch four years after he was suspended
- Thread starter ElectricBlanketFire
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I do not think people within the black community realize how damaging it is to get beat by a parent who is doing it because they "love" you and want to teach you "respect" through both fear and violence. The best part about this is the people who claim to turn out fine being raised this way (they really aren't "fine").
Peterson is a dumb fuck.
Peterson is a dumb fuck.
1. Americans in general do support corporal punishment for children by a wide margin. Plus NFL fans skew more conservative, so there's zero outcry about Peterson doing this. Also, Peterson has past anti-LGB positions and stands for the anthem.
2. Peterson plays for an NFL team named with a racial slur.
3. The NFL continues to be a trash league. I'm glad I stopped watching the games.
I'm generally ok with spanking but beating a child bloody with a switch or a stick is outside the bounds and should be considered child abuse.
2. Peterson plays for an NFL team named with a racial slur.
3. The NFL continues to be a trash league. I'm glad I stopped watching the games.
I'm generally ok with spanking but beating a child bloody with a switch or a stick is outside the bounds and should be considered child abuse.
I want to say one more time for those who are defending this or talking about nuance the reason we know this is because the first time HE BEAT HIS TODDLER WITH A SWITCH SO BAD IT CUT OPEN HIS SCROTUM AND THE CHILD REQUIRED HOSPITALIZATION. So miss me with this nuance and not judging other people's parenting shit. He is physically abusive, full stop.
Also because if they admitted it then they'd realize that all that suffering was for nothing and it was just plain abuse.
I'm Korean and my dad who grew up over there often recounts stories of getting beaten to within an inch of his life by teachers. Over there it wasn't just parents who hit their kids, but the teachers too, often with huge sticks, for the smallest offenses or sometimes just randomly to keep everyone in line.
My dad is hard conservative and a big authoritarian, who loves strongmen types. Also he's quick to victim-blame. I think all that beating just instills a sense of learned helplessness into children and keeps them afraid or unwilling to confront authority and hold people accountable. So they victim blame instead to make themselves feel empowered.
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Same.
And I am sure his kids love him. I loved my Dad, and at times I fucking hated him. It's such a wrong way to go about teaching your children lessons because as a child that feeling is so goddamned confusing and it hurts.
Just funny to me that people who do this refuse to accept all the evidence that shows this doesn't work. It's like "no I'm going to make it work." No you aren't. You're an idiot.
Same bro. I even made a thread about dropping the NFL. So far so good.
His words read like satire of how that shit doesn't work. And it doesn't, people are gonna come in here and say how they turned out fine like it invalidates the ethical problems and scientific studies beating your kids has.
My parents repeatedly sliced my testicles open and I turned out fine!
I still don't understand why spankings are a big deal. I would act like I was super afraid of getting spanked than getting my stuff taken when I kid. Spanking was never a big punishment to me. Being hurt a little for a few minutes was a trillion times better than being bored for a week.
I definitely wouldn't spank my kids because i dont even think it works. I feel like the people who think it works were actually beating their kids vs hitting them on the butt a few times with a belt. Which is even worse.
I definitely wouldn't spank my kids because i dont even think it works. I feel like the people who think it works were actually beating their kids vs hitting them on the butt a few times with a belt. Which is even worse.
My pops got beat up with a belt constantly growing up, never used it on me. At best a light spanking on my ass and raised his voice.
I do think timeouts don't work imo plus I see a bunch of kids who just frustrate their parents cause their extremely soft with them lol.
I do think timeouts don't work imo plus I see a bunch of kids who just frustrate their parents cause their extremely soft with them lol.
Here in our country it's unfortunately a common form of punishment, I was unfortunately raised like that. I was born dirt poor though so my parents cant punish me with taking/depriving anything since we dont have any or put me to chores since we all worked even as a child. Could be the cause of my social anxiety right now but it did teach or at least force us to be good
That said, I went through with this and would never do these to my kids. Plus im lucky enough that I can 'ground' them now since I can take their TV or game time.
That said, I went through with this and would never do these to my kids. Plus im lucky enough that I can 'ground' them now since I can take their TV or game time.
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White people freak out over black people diciplining their children. Nothing to see here.
It's utterly disgusting seeing you try to turn a story about a guy repeatedly beating his kid (one time bad enough to send him to the hospital) into a racial issue.
Nothing to see here indeed.
Edit: And its doubly awful you try to pass off abuse as "discipline".
Abuse is abuse. It doesn't matter what color your skin is.
Old practices die hard in the black community. Actually, they don't die at all. Our community has been issuing spankings literally since slavery. I don't think it's going anywhere. Gotta hope that it is used increasingly sparingly and nowhere near the ferocity and apparent anger that Peterson had to go to court over.
Hmmm, my opinion is different than the consensus here but I think at times, children do need to be physically disciplined. Sometimes a committed act may warrant it. I understand that there are other methods to discipline and instruct a child but those aren't always effective - and one can argue that physically disciplining a child isn't effective as well, what works for one won't necessarily work for all. I'm not saying that it's necessarily right but I don't think it's ok to completely dismiss someone as "disgusting", "sadistic" or "sick" just because they've physically disciplined their child. I was physically disciplined and I know that the people who dealt out the punishment to me did it out of genuine concern and would put themselves between me and harm. Did I always deserve the whoopings I got, with both belts and switches? Probably not, but then again my punishments weren't always so extreme and at times I could see my actions being deserving of it. So no, I don't agree with the notion that just because you physically disciplined your child that you don't love them or are somehow some "sick" person.
I think physically disciplining your child can reinforce their behavior or it can eradicate it entirely. When I was in elementary school, if I brought home less than a B, I was punished somehow. So to avoid that, if I did poorly, I'd race home, get the progress report out of the mail and hide it before anyone else got home from work and go around the house later that evening collecting signatures. I'd forge them onto the progress report and return it to class. One teacher caught on and contacted a family member and I got my ass whooped at school. So I just decided from then on to do my work in school and keep my talking to a reasonable level and avoid ass whoopings and the nervousness of report card season altogether. I finished elementary school as Valedictorian. I think my story kinda details how fear is of the whooping - not the adult - is the motivator initially but I quickly understood what was right and wrong to do, and how if I wanted a specific outcome I'd behave in the most sensible way.
I'm not too old but I look at a lot of kids these days and I feel that they don't have any discipline, many don't stop consider the consequences of their actions or how it may affect them or others. Maybe it's just the rise people recording themselves or others doing stupid shit that gives me that impression because there were definitely idiots in high school cursing out and attempting to fight teachers or beating nerdy kids up for their Yugi-oh cards but it just seems so commonplace now. And those kids go on to have kids and raise more badass kids with no sense of direction. Some people you just can't sit in time out.
Feel free to ridicule if you feel differently.
I think physically disciplining your child can reinforce their behavior or it can eradicate it entirely. When I was in elementary school, if I brought home less than a B, I was punished somehow. So to avoid that, if I did poorly, I'd race home, get the progress report out of the mail and hide it before anyone else got home from work and go around the house later that evening collecting signatures. I'd forge them onto the progress report and return it to class. One teacher caught on and contacted a family member and I got my ass whooped at school. So I just decided from then on to do my work in school and keep my talking to a reasonable level and avoid ass whoopings and the nervousness of report card season altogether. I finished elementary school as Valedictorian. I think my story kinda details how fear is of the whooping - not the adult - is the motivator initially but I quickly understood what was right and wrong to do, and how if I wanted a specific outcome I'd behave in the most sensible way.
I'm not too old but I look at a lot of kids these days and I feel that they don't have any discipline, many don't stop consider the consequences of their actions or how it may affect them or others. Maybe it's just the rise people recording themselves or others doing stupid shit that gives me that impression because there were definitely idiots in high school cursing out and attempting to fight teachers or beating nerdy kids up for their Yugi-oh cards but it just seems so commonplace now. And those kids go on to have kids and raise more badass kids with no sense of direction. Some people you just can't sit in time out.
Feel free to ridicule if you feel differently.
Switches are incredibly flexible so they're not sticks in the traditional sense that you're thinking of. I can't think of something to liken them to but I lived and Louisiana and I would be told to go get my own switch, some psychological fucker-y shit right there and if I brought back a tiny one, they'd go get the biggest one but no, I wouldn't call them sticks. That seems like someone being hyperbolic honestly.
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I think you are wrong. So, so, wrong. What about spouses, do they need a bit of physical discipline as well or only people really small?
this post sucks, man. AP not only shoved leaves in his son's mouth to stifle his crying, but also opened wounds on his genitals from excessive beating. that's straight up sadistic and i think most rational, non-abusive parents feel the same way. people trying to normalize abuse by equating it to their own experience are disingenuous as fuck.
And you're entitled to your opinion. I'm not saying to abuse your child or anything of the sort. Not every physical punishment involves a belt or a switch or striking your child with the intention of hurting them. A pop on the hand or butt could be the end of it. I think discipline is there to instruct a child on what's right and wrong so that in adulthood, they aren't acting with no regard for the consequences that may come. I'm not sure if you're attempting to draw comparisons between domestic abuse and disciplining a child or liken discipline to abuse but there's a distinction (in my mind at least) between disciplining a child and abusing a child but you don't have to cross into abusing a child to discipline that child.
The situation you're describing is abuse and I'm not saying that it wasn't but I don't believe that physically disciplining a child = abuse, I wholeheartedly think it can become abuse but if a child is unresponsive to all other forms of punishment/discipline what can a parent do? Talking to, depriving a child of various things, etc. will not work for every child and some actions are deserving of being physically disciplined.
This is neither here nor there but I'd bet my life that a lot of people who are in this very thread vehemently screaming that physical discipline is abhorrent have in their lives remarked or though that a bad ass kid they've seen, heard or interacted with need an ass whooping.
I can't agree with any of this. Hitting your child as a means of discipline simply proves you've failed to come up with a better response to their behaviour. It's a shortcut because a more nuanced response is beyond you. All you teach them is problems can be resolved with violence. And, frankly if you have to do it more than once, clearly it's not working as a means of discipline anyway.
And aside from that, it has a shelf life too. Kids grow up, it's all very well dominating them when they're small but if you are unable to resort to anything other than hitting when things get tough, what are you going to do when they're teenagers and won't comply with your requirements? You can't hit teenagers. Your primary method of discipline is no longer applicable and you've never spent the time to cultivate a decent relationship where issues can be resolved by other means than physical.
And everytime, this nonsense "I was hit and I turned out fine". No one would use this level of anecdotal experience to try to rationalise anything else.
Personal story time
My dad I loved but was one of the most stubborn, useless, rage inducing human beings on earth
This dude whipped me with literally a horse Whip, yes that long ass leather that makes that snapping sound when it's swung in the air
I think I misbehaved in class, so he got a call form the teacher
That day I came home, silence, my mom and baby bro locked away into the bedroom and he went to work on me
Let me tell you this, this dude literally whipped me to such soreness, I kept passing out. Then he sent me to school next day, baggy clothes, but those marks still fresh I couldn't sit or let anyone touch me.
The lovely lunch ladies who scored me came by to see what's wrong. Dude I've never seen so many women shocked and close to tears hugging me and saying it will get better. CPS was called, my father reviewed can a way to Buffalo on some religious pilgrimage (Islam)
They were ready to remove me, but my Uncle went out of his fucking way and understood foster care would do to me and especially my mom who I was attached to the hip (still to this day)
Every time I hear of kids getting best, that PTSD triggers of beatings at the hand of my father
Some deserved but most were his frustration of not being successful in certain endeavours and taking it out on me
Best me cause I was a bedwetter, find out from my years later, my grandpa his dad whipped his ass for the same reason
Thank fuck I'm not having kids to carry his fucking name of pass on these genes
My dad I loved but was one of the most stubborn, useless, rage inducing human beings on earth
This dude whipped me with literally a horse Whip, yes that long ass leather that makes that snapping sound when it's swung in the air
I think I misbehaved in class, so he got a call form the teacher
That day I came home, silence, my mom and baby bro locked away into the bedroom and he went to work on me
Let me tell you this, this dude literally whipped me to such soreness, I kept passing out. Then he sent me to school next day, baggy clothes, but those marks still fresh I couldn't sit or let anyone touch me.
The lovely lunch ladies who scored me came by to see what's wrong. Dude I've never seen so many women shocked and close to tears hugging me and saying it will get better. CPS was called, my father reviewed can a way to Buffalo on some religious pilgrimage (Islam)
They were ready to remove me, but my Uncle went out of his fucking way and understood foster care would do to me and especially my mom who I was attached to the hip (still to this day)
Every time I hear of kids getting best, that PTSD triggers of beatings at the hand of my father
Some deserved but most were his frustration of not being successful in certain endeavours and taking it out on me
Best me cause I was a bedwetter, find out from my years later, my grandpa his dad whipped his ass for the same reason
Thank fuck I'm not having kids to carry his fucking name of pass on these genes
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I've made other threads about spanking/child abuse and thought this was worth highlighting as it was a high profile case of a famous athlete beating their kid having learned absolutely nothing.
I think a grown man hitting a child with a belt is worth "freaking out" over.
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May want to read up on what AP's disciplinary measures actually are, friend.
Parents like this then turn around and wonder why their children have anxiety, depression, and anger issues.
Don't worry the usual defenders of child abuse will be in her shortly to defend this guy. Or they're already here.
Looking forward to it?
I'm sorry. Thanks for sharing.