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DF: Fallout 76 Patch 1.02: Does The 47GB Patch Really Improve Performance?
- Thread starter chandoog
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Amazing. I saw that shit before - in DayZ mod, or maybe it was one of the other mods that branched from that one. Possibly Origins. It happened when certain objects spawned somewhere. Probably some issues with the meshes or something like that. Never knew I'd be able to see it one day in a triple A game that just got patched haha.
In Fallout 4, that bug happened whenever a mod broke the precombined meshes.
No idea what could cause something like this on F76.
This is a mess :/
I feel DF missed an opportunity to create a video that literally had him say "No.", cut to black. Then release the full video 24 hours later.
I was tempted! I'm sure we made this exact joke in another video though ;)
It looks like the textures got stretched out. Had a similar bug with a experimental build of No Man's Sky.
You seriously complaining about being able to download 46GB in 39 minutes? lmao
For the uninitiated, that bug is called a "vertices explosion". It when the vertices (triangles) that make up the model are not properly contained within the mesh and literally explode outwards, creating the bug that we see in this video.
Yep that's what happened to me in NMS. (It also halved my fps when it appeared on screen)
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Tom is that you ? What a pleasant surprise to see you here, I didn't know you had an account.
Btw game has just discounted on MS Store by %33. That's just sad at this point.
It reads more like ONLY the remaining 436 MB are going to take him 36 minutes alone...
Poor him T_T
EDIT: basically he spent around 20+ hours downloading that patch... nnnnnnnnnn
Bethesda deserves all the bad press for this one. Hopefully it will be what drives them to improve upon their shipped products, because they do make lovely games. It just so happens that this game is an even bigger mess than usual, and there's no lovely game behind it that makes this so ridiculous.
I think a lot of the patch just replaces large dependencies in the files that are virtually the same but the patch is, as with some games maybe made so that it is put into a folder that overrides the original game data but in truth you have basically duplicate files that fill up the space... OR it's just a huge download that essentially replaces a ton of files with only a fraction of them having any real changes.
More than 10 actually.
I can't even explain this. How does this even happen, ypu're constantly shooting things. Nobody at one point raised their hand in protest to say this is fundamentally fucked? They probably did, but management was like nope release it. Terrible.
No. I am seriously impressed and jealous. It would take me two days.
They said future patches would be much smaller, so maybe they needed to change the package format (again?).
It's not that easy. There is nothing that provides evidence that Unreal...much less IDTech is suited for this sort of game with persistent world. In fact I don't think there is any current engine out there that is designed for this. We haven't even seen IDTech outside of FPS game with small environment.
Admittedly for FO76, they don't have any NPCs with routines and quest branching (which is another whole damn problem in itself). Not to mention they'll have to develop tools for these types of games from scratch if they were to change the engine and then have other developers learn these new tools....so I'm not sure an engine change is the answer. There are 2 options: a) modernise their current engine's infrastructure that already supports the kind of games they make, has the tools they need and are used to...OR b) move to a brand new engine that may or may not support the kind of games they make and develop/learn brand new tools. Considering this I wouldn't be too sure of whether an engine change will fix everything for them. It might even make things worse. Remember how the developers of Andromeda mentioned how difficult it got for them to make an RPG game with branching on a ln engine that was designed for shooters? And this was despite the fact that EA's internal engine tech team is handled by DICE.
It's possible to keep modernising old tech without it hindering you in the present. I mean all the engines that we see from the developers these days can be traced back to 2 generations ago. The problem is unlike those developers Bethesda seemed to not have taken care of old issues that still exist to this day. And while maybe there are some issuesithat can never be fixed due to the tyoe of games they make but I'd still put it more down on Bethesda than the engine itself. In fact imo two of the biggest complaints that people have (aside from performance and bugs) i.e. graphics and animations are things that modders can end up fixing without even having access to the source code. So I fully believe that Bethesda can actually implement proper PBR materials for their assets (so that interiors don't look like shit) and improve animations using this exact same engine since they are more of a content creation issue than engine issue. As no amount of engine change will do anything about an improperly created asset/animation that doesn't look good.
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How small was Rage? Keeping in mind it was designed with machines with 512MB of memory in mind.
Saw this earlier. It's a pretty damning video by Tom. Haven't really see him go in like this with a game.
Whoa, all that data for a small difference in size. What is going on? Did they have to reinstall all the textures to patch something small? Will they have to keep patching this way? Reminds me of Paragon patches, no where near as large but huge 4-6gig updates each week.
Remember, the engine is not to blame for the individual bugs that are generated as a result of all the engine is made to handle.
This engine allows Bethesda to ensure players have unprecedented levels of interactivity. Which other game allows you to put buckets on the heads of NPCs, collect thousands cheese wheels, blow up hundreds of chickens, carry almost any object via invisible force of will at a distance of 12 inches?
It seems like it's a mod causing it or the GPU is overheating. /s
Or it's a feature, not a bug.
I expect this shit on PC, a platform where I could potentially diagnose and fix the issue. Can't do that on console, and this game is rightfully getting torn apart for it.
47GB to do almost nothing is just irresponsible! For many people that is a huge chunk of their monthly download cap.
Edit: I'm really fucking mad. Since this is an online game, there's no CHOICE but to get this patch, which the consumer has to cough up the cash for the huge download. All of which DOES NOTHING.
How fucking dare they.
Edit: I'm really fucking mad. Since this is an online game, there's no CHOICE but to get this patch, which the consumer has to cough up the cash for the huge download. All of which DOES NOTHING.
How fucking dare they.
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People are gonna end up paying an extra 30-40 bucks for this game in data cap fees.
Holiday season. They probably calculated that the costs of a delay would be greater than the costs of releasing a subpar product during the holiday season (oops!), and pulled the trigger.
Considering the patch slightly improved the game's performance, they could have waited until today to release this game to somehow reduce the backlash.
They HAVE to for next gen otherwise I won't be buying another game from them and I love elder scrolls !
they aren't, they are building on the existing engine for the new games so expect all the same bugs but prettier
Was afraid of this, well looks like my open world aligence is well and truly with Ubisoft. They have a solid grasp on the tech required to pull them off. By Bethesda but I'll be back for soon and rage 2 as it's got nothing to do with this archaic engine
It wouldn't have been reduced by much at all. It's still a huge mess and a massive technical disaster.
It's still shitty, yeah. FPS dips when shooting is abhorrent.
Bethesda the publisher own 2 studios
one Id studios with the best engine in the business (60fps on all home consoles, 30fps running on switch)
The other studio Bethesda can't even get their game to run smoothly on consoles since the dawn of time and their PC version rely on the community to fix them. I still remember when i first place oblivion on PC, i literally have to tweak the .cfg and .ini files just to get the 'right' settings on my PC config so that it can run properly and not looks like shit.
one Id studios with the best engine in the business (60fps on all home consoles, 30fps running on switch)
The other studio Bethesda can't even get their game to run smoothly on consoles since the dawn of time and their PC version rely on the community to fix them. I still remember when i first place oblivion on PC, i literally have to tweak the .cfg and .ini files just to get the 'right' settings on my PC config so that it can run properly and not looks like shit.
The fact that they warned people before launch there'd be bugs/performance issues shows their familiarity with it
But you can't do any of that in this game.. you can't even throw a sweet roll on the floor, it's a bag that vanishes after 15 minutes.
The rage engine would of been better..
All Bethesda games launch all kinds of broken and riddled with performance issues. Not sure how FO76 is somehow first time for such shitshow from them.