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Wkd Box Office - 11•16-18•18 - Beasts 2 not as Fantastic with $62M Domestic. Venom nearing $800M WW.
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I hope you're right. All of my predictions are wrong anyway, so maybe there's nothing to worry about.
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Wednesday est (China, Yuan)
A Cool Fish 29.2m/142.5m, +17%
Venom 26.6m/1518.6m, -13%
FB2 12.1M/306.4m, -18.6%
That's roughly 3.81M In USD for Venom. (218.69M)
Venom will be at 222.XM heading into its third weekend.
Infinity War did 3.35M on its 13th day.
Jurassic World 2 was at roughly 213.5M on its 13th day. It was at 216.6M on day 14, heading into the weekend. It made 14.8M over the weekend.
Venom will likely have built close to a 10M lead over JW2 after this weekend. Venom is very likely to continue to out perform JW2 a film that grossed 261.2M.
A Cool Fish 29.2m/142.5m, +17%
Venom 26.6m/1518.6m, -13%
FB2 12.1M/306.4m, -18.6%
That's roughly 3.81M In USD for Venom. (218.69M)
Venom will be at 222.XM heading into its third weekend.
Infinity War did 3.35M on its 13th day.
Jurassic World 2 was at roughly 213.5M on its 13th day. It was at 216.6M on day 14, heading into the weekend. It made 14.8M over the weekend.
Venom will likely have built close to a 10M lead over JW2 after this weekend. Venom is very likely to continue to out perform JW2 a film that grossed 261.2M.
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Sony dates two untitled Marvel movies:
- July 10, 2020
- October 02, 2020
Morbius and then Venom 2?
https://screenrant.com/venom-2-release-date-morbius-sony/
That would mean Sony is tripling down in comic book movies that year, with Bloodshot in February.
So Black Cat/Silver Sable in 2021 alongside a Spider-Man entry?
- July 10, 2020
- October 02, 2020
Morbius and then Venom 2?
https://screenrant.com/venom-2-release-date-morbius-sony/
That would mean Sony is tripling down in comic book movies that year, with Bloodshot in February.
So Black Cat/Silver Sable in 2021 alongside a Spider-Man entry?
I'm very curious how many of those will actually happen, or how many will be cancelled for the next reboot.
I hope you're joking, cause if you're not, you're going to be extremely disappointed. xD
I think we'll be lucky if Spider-Verse gets $500m WW.
I would totally watch that movie. How do we make this happen?
I hope Christmas is kind to Spider-Verse because it'll be very lucky to get to Justice League numbers.
JL numbers would be exceptionally good for Spider-verse. Even Solo numbers would be good for it. There needs to be some perspective in why those two movies did poorly. For one, I doubt Spider-verse cost $300M to make.
Of course I'm joking.
$30-40 million seems like a nice opening weekend in America.
RE Venom: 'ROW'* minus China is very likely to crest over 600M.
Current odds for milestones
Homecoming 80/20
Spider-Man 3 40/60
*ROW = Rest of World
Initially I though that Morbius was a shoe in for Halloween during a Venom off year, but if they're both 2020, Sony probably doesn't want to rock the boat on Venom just to give Morbius a themed slot.
Gimme a Black Cat Film tho, please. I assume that the film will be brought back from 'hiatus' now. Apparently they couldn't get the script right when it was shelved prior.
I'm not sure why they don't just adapt the template of Batman Begins, except they trained thieves who are also essentially ninjas. Heck slot Silver Sable in as an paramilitary force trying to protect the things being stolen, or adapt them to be the organization that Felicia gets trained by. That and go with a Felicia and costume that mirrors the Marvels Spider-Man interpretation.
Edit: actually yeah I'm pretty sure I just cracked that movie.
Current odds for milestones
Homecoming 80/20
Spider-Man 3 40/60
*ROW = Rest of World
Initially I though that Morbius was a shoe in for Halloween during a Venom off year, but if they're both 2020, Sony probably doesn't want to rock the boat on Venom just to give Morbius a themed slot.
Gimme a Black Cat Film tho, please. I assume that the film will be brought back from 'hiatus' now. Apparently they couldn't get the script right when it was shelved prior.
I'm not sure why they don't just adapt the template of Batman Begins, except they trained thieves who are also essentially ninjas. Heck slot Silver Sable in as an paramilitary force trying to protect the things being stolen, or adapt them to be the organization that Felicia gets trained by. That and go with a Felicia and costume that mirrors the Marvels Spider-Man interpretation.
Edit: actually yeah I'm pretty sure I just cracked that movie.
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Watching the Robin Hood trailers, its very clear they assumed the Guy Ritchie's King Arthur movie would be a smash hit so they tried to ape it as much as possible.
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<insert gif from the future of red wig Woody Harrelson looking up and smiling here>
Hot take: Saying "imagine if x had been good" because you can't admit that you were wrong about something being popular is lame and it makes you look childish.
WOW, Arthur was a hot mess. Robin Hood sounds like a dollar theater classic.
No need.
Venom was really good. Infact it is one of the best hero movies along with Blade and Logan.
I say this as someone who liked Venom but can see it's flaws, why does China love it so much? What about it appeals to them.
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I'm not seeing it.
Last weekend was 3.5M internationally outside of China. The weekend before was almost 12M.
Domestic fell over 60% last weekend to $1.9M and Venom loses another 55% of its venues starting today. Thanksgiving will offset that some, but where are you getting another 26M past Sunday based on those numbers?
Almost as lame and childish as discounting quality as a factor in popularity.
A lot of it is because Tencent entered into a cofinancing deal with Sony way back when. Tenvent has unequaled vertical integration in China.
- Tencent owns 3/5 of the worlds largest social networking platforms
- On top of Tencent pushing Venom hard on their apps, The marketing has been on point.
- China is a very reactive market, when a film hits critical mass, everyone and their mom goes to see it
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We got an early update on the boxoffice.com long range tracking thanks to thanksgiving:
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That's one hell of a bump on Spider-Verse and I still think they are low on it, especially it's legs considering the holiday season.
One new entry, and whew. They went there:
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The Possession of Hannah Grace $3,000,000 +20% $6,000,000 +20%
Mortal Engines $14,000,000 -13% $50,000,000 -10%
The Mule $15,000,000 +7% $80,000,000 n/a
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse $29,000,000 +32% $130,000,000 +44%One new entry, and whew. They went there:
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Glass $67,000,000 $180,000,000
There was a thread about this not too long ago. Women in China equate big tongues, with big dicks. I think that's what that thread was about? Whatever I'm not going to check if that's right.
Both of these are masterpieces and are much better than Venom but I enjoyed all equally.
It's nice to see Glass tracking well, but the trailers have only gotten worse. Hopefully they're just terrible at selling the movie.
Yeah sure, I agree. And clearly most people agree that Venom is a quality movie given how popular it is.
Always gonna be this nebulous argument about finding the objective opinion about a movie's quality via critic aggregate or box office earnings. Doesn't really work like that, though.
Before I respond we need to clarify something. When you say, 'another 26M past Sunday', are you referring to the 18th or 25th? I just want to be sure.
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Venom making $800million? That's insane, I never would've expected that. The Transformers movies make a lot of money too, but they cost a lot more too. Venom must be profitable as hell in comparison. Just what sorcery did Sony (pictures) use to bungle into such luck twice in a row, lol.
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Good god.
How fucking hard is it to make one of these movies?
Captain Kirk put on a fake fucking Scottish Accent (and does a pretty good job of it) and made a better Robin Hood movie for 1/3rd the budget and it went straight to Netflix.
IT SHOULD NOT BE HARD TO MAKE THESE MOVIES GOOD.
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Wasn't that the same premise of the Ridley Scott Robin Hood movie?
At least this one is actually about Robin of Locksley instead of fighting the French.
Cause I don't think they really want to make them
When did NorthFace open up a Sherwood forest branch?
THEY GAVE THEM MACHINE GUN CROSSBOWSCause I don't think they really want to make them
When did NorthFace open up a Sherwood forest branch?
You act like Guy Ritchie didn't put in an asian character into King Arthur just to teach the main character Kung fu
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