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i hope he gets out. i really like his music and i find he can be really funny when he wants to.

if he makes it out, hopefully he just puts the beef/street shit to the side and just focuses on music and being funny.
 

cw_sasuke

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i hope he gets out. i really like his music and i find he can be really funny when he wants to.

if he makes it out, hopefully he just puts the beef/street shit to the side and just focuses on music and being funny.
It's too late for that ...but yeah if he somehow survives this shit, let's hope that reality check will out him on a less reckless path.

The only reason I can't complete denounce him is that I know how fucked up things can be when you are surrounded by real street dudes. You gotta play your role otherwise you'll get eaten alive.

People don't realize how difficult it can be to cut those ties without mayor repercussions for your own safety.

Especially when you are just about to earn some mayor money ...you would have to cut them a check big enough to compensate for all the money they think they could get from you or link up with another group for security.

Seems like he knew what was about to happen so he paid for legit security company services....which resulted in some of the goons he was messing with before feeling some type of way.
 

YeahYeahDawg

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Nah, this guy deserves all the worst that´s coming to him. Just watching one video where this guy opens his mouth and talks and acts the way he does further cements my opinion that he is of no use to anyone alive..

I mean seriously, besides rich and greedy robber-barons he is a poster-child for everything a human being shouldn´t be. How the hell can you have even an ounce of sympathy for someone like him?
 

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Nah, this guy deserves all the worst that´s coming to him. Just watching one video where this guy opens his mouth and talks and acts the way he does further cements my opinion that he is of no use to anyone alive..

I mean seriously, besides rich and greedy robber-barons he is a poster-child for everything a human being shouldn´t be. How the hell can you have even an ounce of sympathy for someone like him?
Compassion? Even in the face of stupidity...

Hes 22 years old and reckless. It takes similar experiences like this to filter that shit out of you. Im not condoning his actions or behaviour but imagine being around the wrong crowd and you just got a major payday. So many edicts coming at you, especially from people you dont know..
 

studyguy

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Honestly the single dumbest thing I find out of all this fallout is just the sheer number of people who warned Tekashi of what was happening.
So. Many. Fucking. People. Told. Him. To. Stop.

Like the list is fucking endless with this guy of credible dudes in and around the game throwing warning signs.
I mean ultimately when even the fucking feds themselves tell you that you're probably fucking gonna die and you still ignore it then idk what to make of it.
Ironically the feds probably saved this dude's fucking life at least in the short run seeing as how they picked him up before others moved in on his ass.
 
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Nah, this guy deserves all the worst that´s coming to him. Just watching one video where this guy opens his mouth and talks and acts the way he does further cements my opinion that he is of no use to anyone alive..

I mean seriously, besides rich and greedy robber-barons he is a poster-child for everything a human being shouldn´t be. How the hell can you have even an ounce of sympathy for someone like him?

i hated him based on first impressions too. then i heard his music and i gotta be honest, it reminded me a lot of early 00s new york rap which i really like, like onyx and dmx. then i heard him being interviewed and he was pretty candid about his situation before rap (ie less than 12 months ago). found his dad murdered. ended up with ptsd. mom was so broke him and his brother turned to dealing drugs to support his family. fell in with the wrong crowd. got his gf pregnant and had a kid on the way when he caught that underage girl case. was so broke he couldnt afford a lawyer so he plead guilty to avoid being locked up from his kid. then i saw heaps of videos of him just giving away stacks of cash. to his family. to random kids. i dunno. beyond the bravado which i thought honestly was an act, like it is with 90% of these rappers, he seemed like a fucked up broken dude. which is something i can relate to.

honestly, the world needs more empathy not less. at the end of the day, these are just poor kids. literally.

i guess we'll find out over the next year or so what was really going on. but it wouldnt surprise me if his management were using him to clean cash and were basically extorting him. its a story as old as time in hiphop. i've lost track of how many rappers got used by their managers. dre, pac, biggie, weezy, etc etc. i think he just got caught up. anyways, just my opinion. and i'm biased cause i think his music is fucking banging.
 

cw_sasuke

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Nah, this guy deserves all the worst that´s coming to him. Just watching one video where this guy opens his mouth and talks and acts the way he does further cements my opinion that he is of no use to anyone alive..

I mean seriously, besides rich and greedy robber-barons he is a poster-child for everything a human being shouldn´t be. How the hell can you have even an ounce of sympathy for someone like him?

He is a father and provides for his mother - i think he just bought her a house not too long ago.

You are free to have you opinion, but labeling someone as " no use to anyone alive" just because of how he talks and his manners seems...extreme. But then again, thats the internet and any kind of basic empathy doesnt seem to be a thing.

Honestly the single dumbest thing I find out of all this fallout is just the sheer number of people who warned Tekashi of what was happening.
So. Many. Fucking. People. Told. Him. To. Stop.
You also realize...that when he started to cut those people off, he got robbed and people were scheming to "super violate" him ...right ?

Its easy to say...he should do this and that when you arent in his shoes. This guy seems like a moron to me, just judging from its appearance i have a hard time seeing how someone like him could have cut ties with the people that were benefiting from him.

You have to remember these guys had no issues shooting up a bunch of sets of people this dude was beefing with. I can see why someone like him would rather have them as his friends or make them his enemies.

Its obv. still wrong...but yeah...it is what it is.
 
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studyguy

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You also realize...that when he started to cut those people off, he got robbed and people were scheming to "super violate" him ...right ?

Its easy to say...he should do this and that when you arent in his shoes. This guy seems like a moron to me, just judging from its appearance i have a hard time seeing how someone like him could have cut ties with the people that were benefiting from him.

You have to remember these guys had no issues shooting up a bunch of sets of people this dude was beefing with. I can see why someone like him would rather have them as his friends or make them his enemies.

Its obv. still wrong...but yeah...it is what it is.
Lmao fuck that noise, dude got it into his head he was repping bloods for just clout and it was just shits and giggles to him... then somehow everyone is shocked when it goes south. Nah you have to put absolutely 0 value in your own life when this shit started going down. This dude was literally trolling LA gangs at the beginning of the year (Like in fucking February), somehow people forgot he was getting shows shut down as a precaution and he still went all in. There's getting in too deep and there's actively bringing that attention to yourself for no reason other than searching for that clout, dude got fucked up at LAX for that, we have it on fucking video. What does he do next? He starts beefing w/ Redd, Sosa then some dudes in NYC too and we're back to it again. Like dude was a clout chaser from day one, it's just he had no sense of self preservation through it all.
 
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He is a father and provides for his mother - i think he just bought her a house not too long ago.

You are free to have you opinion, but labeling someone as " no use to anyone alive" just because of how he talks and his manners seems...extreme. But then again, thats the internet and any kind of basic empathy doesnt seem to be a thing.

he literally molested a child.
 

YeahYeahDawg

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Compassion? Even in the face of stupidity...

Hes 22 years old and reckless. It takes similar experiences like this to filter that shit out of you. Im not condoning his actions or behaviour but imagine being around the wrong crowd and you just got a major payday. So many edicts coming at you, especially from people you dont know..

Reckless doesn´t even start to describe what he is. The consequences of his actions also put non-affiliated people around him in danger..
Many people (me included) have a time in their life when they´re reckless, i definately hung out with the wrong people in my teenage years. But sooner or later you need to get your act together, probably harder considering the dreg he hangs around with but you get what i mean..

He is a father and provides for his mother - i think he just bought her a house not too long ago.

You are free to have you opinion, but labeling someone as " no use to anyone alive" just because of how he talks and his manners seems...extreme. But then again, thats the internet and any kind of basic empathy doesnt seem to be a thing.


You also realize...that when he started to cut those people off, he got robbed and people were scheming to "super violate" him ...right ?

Its easy to say...he should do this and that when you arent in his shoes. This guy seems like a moron to me, just judging from its appearance i have a hard time seeing how someone like him could have cut ties with the people that were benefiting from him.

You have to remember these guys had no issues shooting up a bunch of sets of people this dude was beefing with. I can see why someone like him would rather have them as his friends or make them his enemies.

Its obv. still wrong...but yeah...it is what it is.

My extremely empatic nature of putting everyone elses well-being over my own has put my mind into trouble more times than I can count. Believe me, lack of empathy is definately not a description that´s fitting for me.
I do however show my empathy for people that deserve it, he is not one of them. If he is a father he should get his act together and act like one, buying his mother a house is nothing else but empty promises, you can´t buy love.. And I would bet that his mother would rather wish that he´d be a proper role-model for his child than whatever house he´s provided her.

Considering the video with the under-age girl and all the other shit he´s been up to.. Nah, i rather feel sorry for his family, but for him I can´t muster any sympathy or empathy whatsoever, he deserves none!
 

cw_sasuke

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Lmao fuck that noise, dude got it into his head he was repping bloods for just clout and it was just shits and giggles to him... then somehow everyone is shocked when it goes south. Nah you have to put absolutely 0 value in your own life when this shit started going down. This dude was literally trolling LA gangs at the beginning of the year, somehow people forgot he was getting shows shut down as a precaution and he still went all in. There's getting in too deep and there's actively bringing that attention to yourself for no reason other than searching for that clout, dude got fucked up at LAX for that, we have it on fucking video. What does he do next? He starts beefing w/ Redd, Sosa then some dudes in NYC too and we're back to it again. Like dude was a clout chaser from day one, it's just he had no sense of self preservation through it all.
That all doesnt have alot to do with the stuff i posted.
We know how reckless he acted.

The difference is you assuming that he is the Gangster that wanted all the smoke...my point is that its more likely that people who were around him pushed him to keep things escalating because it made them money and essential for his well being.

Thats how the street works - they pretty much made sure that he couldnt go anywhere without bringing them around as protection. The 20yo moron isnt saying no surrounded gangbangers.

It probably started off harmless...but when the attention and money came in, they probably made sure that he understood what part he has to play
he literally molested a child.
Did i say otherwise ?
Nah, i rather feel sorry for his family, but for him I can´t muster any sympathy or empathy whatsoever, he deserves none!
You point was he is no use for anyone being alive - yet you feel sry for his family because of this ?
I can agree with most of what you said and still say that he provided for his family.

From what i could gather, desperation to make money and feed his daughter got him involved with those people in the first place. People act different if they feel like they have nothing to loose..and once you are in....well you are in. This only could end like this.
 

cw_sasuke

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You also mentioned something about empathy but like

don't try to make other people feel empathy for this dude.
This was based on this comment..
Just watching one video where this guy opens his mouth and talks and acts the way he does further cements my opinion that he is of no use to anyone alive..
Dude said the way he talks and his manners were okay to justify a dead sentence on him.

If he feels about him that way because of the real crimes he committed - thats justified and i feel the same way.
But people wishing death and whatever else on someone because they dont like how he act or his music is messed up.
 

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This was based on this comment..

Dude said the way he talks and his manners were okay to justify a dead sentence on him.

If he feels about him that way because of the real crimes he committed - thats justified and i feel the same way.
But people wishing death and whatever else on someone because they dont like how he act or his music is messed up.

Oh sure, in that case yeah it's understandable.
 
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User Banned (Permanent): Excusing pedophilia and sexual assault; long and consistent history of serious infractions.
I think most rational people would see the under age girl thing and recognise it just as an unfortunate situation for everyone involved. He was a teenager. She was a teenager. It was consensual. She lied about her age (among other things). Any decent lawyer would've gotten that shit chucked out of court. Instead he got stuck in a system that's all too willing to lock lower class minorities up in jail. It's dumb as fuck.

And mods, I know you're sensitive about this shit. But as adults we should be able to discuss shit like this rationally without being accused of condoning paedophilia.
 

TheKidObi

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he literally molested a child.
Heard from DJ Ak video the girl lied about her age to get in his music video that was what the case was. If he did moleste a child damn, then idk wtf the judge was smoking only giving him probation and not even to register as a sex offender guess they didn't have hard evidence or are total idiots
 

TheKidObi

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I think most rational people would see the under age girl thing and recognise it just as an unfortunate situation for everyone involved. He was a teenager. She was a teenager. It was consensual. She lied about her age (among other things). Any decent lawyer would've gotten that shit chucked out of court. Instead he got stuck in a system that's all too willing to lock lower class minorities up in jail. It's dumb as fuck.

And mods, I know you're sensitive about this shit. But as adults we should be able to discuss shit like this rationally without being accused of condoning paedophilia.
I mean that's what other outlet reported and people talked about it. The fact that you be labeled a paedophilla here cause u stated something that was revealed in the case, is crazy
 
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I think most rational people would see the under age girl thing and recognise it just as an unfortunate situation for everyone involved. He was a teenager. She was a teenager. It was consensual. She lied about her age (among other things). Any decent lawyer would've gotten that shit chucked out of court. Instead he got stuck in a system that's all too willing to lock lower class minorities up in jail. It's dumb as fuck.

And mods, I know you're sensitive about this shit. But as adults we should be able to discuss shit like this rationally without being accused of condoning paedophilia.
Yeah,
it might not be comfortable to adress these things but its important to stay with the facts.
People dont like to get corrected when they already despise a person and often difficulties to separate different issues.

Me, personally i can label him as a shitty being....but some facts just put a different picture on specific things people bring up about him. Any discussions about him would be more civil if people just refered to the facts.

So like... do yall defend all violent child molesters or just the ones whose music you like?
Just for context - can you quote posts on this page that defend him molesting a child ?
You guys are literally grabbing pitchforks for everyone that states facts and posts what happened.....thats not caping for a pedo.

If 69 did what many people seem to think he did...he would have never saw the light of day again.
 

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Rationalizing or excusing sexual conduct with minors is not tolerated here, and discussions like this one invariably end poorly and please no one. We do not believe this thread will be different, and so it has been locked.
 
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