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The Bear

Forest Animal
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
4,194
==== DAY 2 VOTES ====
Day Start

kalor (7 votes)
turmoil7 - #1367
faddy - #1530 #2035
absolutbro - #1961
sophia - #2017
malus - #2089
dcpat - #2090
coolestspot - #2155
melonrabbit - #2178

giant panda (4 votes)
stuart444 - #1108 #1603
coolestspot - #1637 #2155
thechuggernaut - #1672
stuart444 - #1688 #1986
alexem - #1763
nin - #2021
kalor - #2033

sophia (3 votes)
grizzly - #1334
gorlak - #1382 #1403
gorlak - #1422 #1807
gir - #1789
gorlak - #1808

faddy (2 votes)
giant panda - #1450
stuart444 - #1986

stuart444 (2 votes)
ezekelrage - #1127
faddy - #2035

empressdonna (1 votes)
nin - #1105 #1520
b-dubs - #1246

gorlak (1 votes)
z-beat - #1910

thechuggernaut (0 votes)
nin - #1520 #1851

melonrabbit (0 votes)
gorlak - #1403 #1422

coolestspot (0 votes)
melonrabbit - #2044 #2178

malus (0 votes)
gorlak - #1807 #1808

Post Counts:
stuart444: 191 nin: 115 ezekelrage: 99 grizzly: 96 coolestspot: 78 gorlak: 73 sophia: 71 faddy: 49 melonrabbit: 46 thechuggernaut: 43 gir: 34 turmoil7: 30 absolutbro: 26 kalor: 25 dcpat: 23 z-beat: 22 giant panda: 18 b-dubs: 15 alexem: 14 empressdonna: 6 cabot: 6 malus: 4 beefy: 1

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Kalor

Resettlement Advisor
Member
Oct 25, 2017
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Ideally I'd like to hear from the Panda himself before committing to it.
 

CoolestSpot

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,325
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CoolestSpot

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,325
Stuart, you do realize how dumb that "come back to the person that's dying before next day phase" sounded? It honestly made me feel like you're scum, except I think this is some Kalor scum tacit to save Giant Panda or some shit, and I don't know if that means you're trying to help that?

Either way, baby, you hurt me.
 

Kalor

Resettlement Advisor
Member
Oct 25, 2017
19,625

Because I'm going to override them and I'm curious what they'll say. We have plenty of time and some of this will be interesting tomorrow depending on the result. For one, if Panda is town, then naturally scum would push for me to commit to them for the override.
 

CoolestSpot

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,325

They were vote leader before Kalor, and I think most would agree they should be voted off the island since that was the natural progession.

Now getting feedback from someone who will either be cleared or not? I don't know why that matters, either they are are scum or not, when pulling the mask off a scobby doo villain you don't stop halfway through to say "Hey, do you want us to pull this off?"
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068
Stuart, you do realize how dumb that "come back to the person that's dying before next day phase" sounded? It honestly made me feel like you're scum, except I think this is some Kalor scum tacit to save Giant Panda or some shit, and I don't know if that means you're trying to help that?

Either way, baby, you hurt me.

What? I am trusting Kalor on this. It's a power that we'll see no matter what today. why?

He doesn't use it and doesn't get NK'd, he's dead tomorrow

He uses it and it works differently from what he said? He's dead

He uses it and it works the way he wants it to? He's dead by revenge NK or by clearing a townie who is probably going to get NK'd anyway.

Either way. I'm going to trust Kalor as I feel he knows all of the above. Scum would be risking a lot doing this D2 and would end up dead from one of the above scenarios anyway. So I'm in the mind of thinking Kalor is telling the truth.
 

EzekelRAGE

Member
Nov 3, 2017
16,062
Because I'm going to override them and I'm curious what they'll say. We have plenty of time and some of this will be interesting tomorrow depending on the result. For one, if Panda is town, then naturally scum would push for me to commit to them for the override.
actually i just had a thought
yes, lets wait for panda.
I just remembered something.
 

The Bear

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Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
4,194
Giant Panda Day 1

Vote: Faddy

Only Yanks have the right to betray the UK.

Prod vote, I suppose.

Scum nin would do that because it doesn't make you that much more likely to be lynched, while still letting you make posts like yours.

I didn't consider your claim alignment indicative, but now I have doubts.

Fair comment about Nin's claim, although it doesn't mean much. OK observation.

Nin's "why would scum even do what I did" post was also very defensive sounding.

Not much to say here.

That seems like some overly cautious thinking that seems more likely to come from scum than town.

Vote: Stuart444

I still think Nin's a good option, and ET isn't bad either.

Bit weak vote, but it's early D1 still. First mention of ET, doesn't clarify why he thinks ET isn't bad.

The B-Dubs slip is interesting and something to keep and mind, but I didn't get any scummy vibes from his reaction to it. I could buy that he was frustrated that he might get lynched so soon.

Maybe I should re-read Grizzly's posts, but I didn't get anything scummy from him either at the time. He played down the importance of some the reads people were discussing, but they were day 1 reads so I can understand that too.

Post with some stances, but nothing that really tries to solve the game - pretty sure he never went back to reading my D1 posts, or at least didn't comment on them later.

It almost feels like Zeke is trying to slide into a Blargonaut role where people give him a pass for everything because they've been silly all game. Though, often people eventually snap and suddenly decide to lynch Blarg from what I remember. So that wouldn't be a good long-term game plan for a scum Zeke.

I don't get that from Zeke, he is not Blarg-like at all. Coolest fits that spot much better. This is basically a filler post - nothing that really tries to solve the game, just some busywork.

I'm feeling better about Zeke now, I think his explanations and reads were satisfying.

Still trying to catch up, just woke up a few minutes ago.

This is kind of weird, since Panda didn't comment much about Zeke earlier except for that "he is kinda like Blarg" type of comment.

Yur lazy

Some days are busy for me IRL, and it's been a talkative D1, which is why I'm having to spend a lot of time catching up on reading.

Not much to comment - just explanation for being inactive.

I've never played with Coolest before, so I don't know his style, but the nonchalant role claim is straight weird, maybe it'sa gambit. If I take it at face value though, it's a role that discourages voting, which seems scummy to me. And to be town with that role I feel that you'd want to keep it a surprise.

New top scum for me:
Stuart
Coolest
nin

His Stuart read earlier was pretty lazy (it was early D1, but this post is late D1), so having him on top of scum reads is eh.

Bad gambit is bad. Let's just vote him off the island and make this easier on ourselves.

Vote: CoolestSpot

Lazy lazy vote. Possible vote to try to save ET.

I've made it clear that CS is only one option I'm looking at. I've been pushing Stuart and nin too, but most people haven't been too interested.

His push for Stuart are nin have been weak to say the least, yet he posts here like they are very likely to be scum.

This right here people is what we call an OMGUS vote.

It's not OMGUS.

I did not like his post where he pulled out "Why would scum me do what I just did" line. First, that line always seems a bit scummy to me, and second, his move wasn't even endangering him, so he was giving himself way too much townie cred.

Nothing nin has done since has stood out in a good way to reverse these feelings either.

Again, this push on nin is weak.

As for ET, he's not a bad lynch per se, but the case against him is just the usual Day1 bad vibes and/or busywork case instead of specific scummy post cases on Nin, Stuart, and Coolest.

Wishy-washy stance on ET. Again with the weak-sauce chases on nin and Stuart

Yeah, I can see the comparison to GoT ET. But that's why I agree he's not a bad lynch. It's still day 1 though, so it's not surprising that a number of players kind of look bad/are under the radar. If he's the same on day 2 or 3, then ET will rapidly move up my scum list.

Trying to defend ET with weak arguments. "Well I guess he could become more towny later."

Jesus man it's day 1. Nothing you've posted today will end up mattering in all likelihood either.

This post is dumb.
 

CoolestSpot

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,325
What? I am trusting Kalor on this. It's a power that we'll see no matter what today. why?

He doesn't use it and doesn't get NK'd, he's dead tomorrow

He uses it and it works differently from what he said? He's dead

He uses it and it works the way he wants it to? He's dead by revenge NK or by clearing a townie who is probably going to get NK'd anyway.

Either way. I'm going to trust Kalor as I feel he knows all of the above. Scum would be risking a lot doing this D2 and would end up dead from one of the above scenarios anyway. So I'm in the mind of thinking Kalor is telling the truth.

Yeah, my only tipping off is using it as an excuse for "oh man, I haven't been playing cause...". It came off as some weird cover up bullshit and I didn't want any more whiffs of it. I worry scum want Kalor dead instead of Giant Panda at the moment cause power bullshit.

But that is admitally some hyper parnoia, and with the reasoning you listed, Kalor is likely gonna end up dead either way or I should just sit back and watch what happens.
 

CoolestSpot

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,325
So why did you vote Kalor to turbo territory when it's pretty clear that he is going to use his power? If the power is real, and he was about to target scum, scum's best bet would be to turbo him out before he could use it.
I mean..that is true. It has rubbed me the wrong way how NO ONE has tried to save Giant Panda.
 

EzekelRAGE

Member
Nov 3, 2017
16,062
Yeah, my only tipping off is using it as an excuse for "oh man, I haven't been playing cause...". It came off as some weird cover up bullshit and I didn't want any more whiffs of it. I worry scum want Kalor dead instead of Giant Panda at the moment cause power bullshit.

But that is admitally some hyper parnoia, and with the reasoning you listed, Kalor is likely gonna end up dead either way or I should just sit back and watch what happens.
tbf he did clarify that he was busy as well. The "power" was just a partial reason it seems.
 
Oct 25, 2017
23,202
There's a few ways for this to play out

Kalor is lying and he gets lynched.

Kalor is telling the truth, but he targets town and dies.

Kalor is telling the truth and he targets scum. Scum then most likely kills him at night.

For some dumb ass reason we decide to not lynch Kalor so scum either kills him tonight or we go to the next day phase and try this again.

Either way, Kalor is dying. Which makes me think he's telling the truth. This would be a dumb lie.
 

Stuart444

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,068
There's a few ways for this to play out

Kalor is lying and he gets lynched.

Kalor is telling the truth, but he targets town and dies.

Kalor is telling the truth and he targets scum. Scum then most likely kills him at night.

For some dumb ass reason we decide to not lynch Kalor so scum either kills him tonight or we go to the next day phase and try this again.

Either way, Kalor is dying. Which makes me think he's telling the truth. This would be a dumb lie.

Pretty much echoing my point above.

This is Kalor's last stand!
 

The Bear

Forest Animal
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
4,194
I mean..that is true. It has rubbed me the wrong way how NO ONE has tried to save Giant Panda.

In terms of lynch, there is still 2.5 hours left - there would have been pleanty of time to save Panda. In terms of Kalor's power - well it's possible Melon was launching a saving attempt just there. Because in that case only way to save him is by either changing Kalor's mind, or turboing him.
 

CoolestSpot

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,325
Maybe instead of Giant Panda we should have fun and do it like this
wheeldecide.com

Add faddy, Gorlak, and Giant Panda Kalor. Whoever you spin you go for, please post recorded video of spin, and let us watch the results.
 

melonrabbit

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
3,103
Nowhere
Who would you say he should pick then?

Nin or Zeke. Both are exciting.

So why did you vote Kalor to turbo territory when it's pretty clear that he is going to use his power? If the power is real, and he was about to target scum, scum's best bet would be to turbo him out before he could use it.

I don't really believe him though.


Already answered.


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