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Wkd Box Office - 11•16-18•18 - Beasts 2 not as Fantastic with $62M Domestic. Venom nearing $800M WW.
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He's lucky he signed on to play Xehanort in these Harry Potter prequels before everyone caught on that he was a melted wax disaster. Even Disney is about to dump his ass for a new PoTC. Tim Burton can throw him a bone.
Unless everyone stops seeing it right now, it's still going to make profit and plenty of money, even if it's lower than the last one. Profit pretty much gaurentees they will make more of them. So you might be disappointed if you hope this is the end for the series.
The franchise still has massive money making potential and is too big to drop just like that.
I know that. As I said, I'm just glad it's not doing great.
With a $200m budget and poor legs, that's not guaranteed. It won't be a Solo, but it could be a Justice League.
What's the tracking on Ralph by the way? I imagine being a sequel to a beloved film, good reviews and the presence of all the Disney Princesses, it's going to be fairly big (Also one can only imagine how much they are going to make on the Disney Princess sleepover outfits this film has).
Last number I could find was $65 million for Wednesday night to Sunday.
It already made $253m+ worldwide in 3 days, so it's unlikely to lose money at this point. It will definitely be the lowest earner in the HP franchise but I'm sure in the next few weeks it will still rack up a decent amount.
I don't know; reviews suggest that it's not as good as the first, but that might not matter.
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Well now not only do I not care for the movie, but now I regret paying money.
Have you already mentioned the "Venom is a great boyfriend" stuff?
The marketing in China is the best. Lucasfilm and WB, take notes.
That's actually sweet of Venom, lol.
If WB only gets half of the domestic take, 30%-40% of the foreign take and 25% of the China take, then for the first weekend they took in $107m. If (and that's a big if) the sequel hits the same 3x multiplier domestically that takes the dom total to $186m, and if (again, a big if) it gets the same $580m foreign total ($86.9m from China) for a $766m worldwide total, WB gets $312m of that worldwide total. They spent $200m on the production plus whatever they spent on marketing and may only make $312m from it. The profit margin will be slim, if it makes a profit at all.
Venom will only be down about 13% on Tuesday in China. Mirroring its weekday drops from W1 very closely.
It's looking very likely that Venom has pulled ahead of Infinity War in daily tracking in China. Venom should do about 4.5M USD versus the 3.98M that Infinity War did at the same point.
FB2 is looking like it will be down 22% over the Monday in China. Kiss those screens goodbye imo. Next weekend will be down by 75%+.
Keeping in mind that these are still just early estimates.
Approx: 31M yuan / 4.5M USD. It will be very close to 10M USD over the 2 day(9.6-9.7) We will have to see if screen slashing for FB2 kicks during the weekdays as that could push Venom over 20M for the mom-thu stretch. Otherwise it should settle relatively closely to 20M. Closer than 16.5 at any rate.
It should break even with BR etc but studios aren't in the buisiness of meager profits with tentpole films.
It's looking very likely that Venom has pulled ahead of Infinity War in daily tracking in China. Venom should do about 4.5M USD versus the 3.98M that Infinity War did at the same point.
FB2 is looking like it will be down 22% over the Monday in China. Kiss those screens goodbye imo. Next weekend will be down by 75%+.
Keeping in mind that these are still just early estimates.
Approx: 31M yuan / 4.5M USD. It will be very close to 10M USD over the 2 day(9.6-9.7) We will have to see if screen slashing for FB2 kicks during the weekdays as that could push Venom over 20M for the mom-thu stretch. Otherwise it should settle relatively closely to 20M. Closer than 16.5 at any rate.
It should break even with BR etc but studios aren't in the buisiness of meager profits with tentpole films.
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I just wanted to remind people that just because the gross is higher than the budget, that doesn't mean the movie is profitable.
Not necessarily. It's a Christmas release so opening weekend isn't as important of a metric to gauge success. It'll have good legs for at least the first 2-3 weeks.
For sure for sure. Listing the rule of thumb % is very useful for that. Sometime I feel like those % should be included in the OP XD
The first movie cost $180m and did $814m and they were happy to plan multiple movies with the result and this is tracking only a little under the first film so far, so if this one does get to something like $766m and only cost 20m more to make, it should still be a decent enough result. Profit is still profit, even if it's not as much. It will mean they will have to step up their game for the next one though to make a better film if they want to make more money.
Guess we will see in the next few weeks if the drop gets bigger or stays just a little under the first movie but I still don't think this will be a massive flop, even if it's not as high as they had originally hoped.
Reading the whole thread, it sounds like it's a problem with extras casting rather than the main crew.
I don't think it will be a massive flop either, but I think it will make them seriously rethink their strategy for this franchise. Again, more of a Justice League than a Solo, especially if its worldwide gross starts to get closer to Justice League's than the first movie's.
Even with the first movies 3x domestic multiplier (which is looking unlikely) it would still gross less than Justice League in the US and if there's a drop in the foreign gross, we could be looking at Star Trek Beyond numbers domestically and Justice League numbers worldwide.
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Ehhh. Unlikely.
Harry Potter as a whole is still huge worldwide with the first Fantastic Beasts film making more money internationally than Rogue One and the theme park attractions still bringing in a ton of tourism dollars every year.
Worst case scenario WB might delay the filming of the third film and do some 'retooling' but it's far from being in the same scenario as Divergent with everything coming to a grinding halt.
One would think Warner Bros will give it another go. Maybe finally remove David Yates and give it to someone else.
Maybe a new director, a fresh set of eyes to put it back on track for the next one. This one clearly suffers from setting up too much for future movies than being it's own film, they need to balance that better in future movies.
Yeah I finally saw it this weekend and was shocked at how bad it was.
I thought Depp was pretty good in FB2, honestly.
The franchise definitely doesn't need 5 movies though, just wrap it up as a trilogy.
Venom doing so well blows my mind though, it was really bad.
The franchise definitely doesn't need 5 movies though, just wrap it up as a trilogy.
Venom doing so well blows my mind though, it was really bad.
Please remove David Yates, his cinematography and design choices with what he has to work with is just gag inducing
David Yates is making Wizarding World movies until he dies.
What are the Monday numbers for venom in China? Sorry I didn't see them
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