Yeah agree with that, it would be nice if they based the game on gen 1 but not pretend other Pokemons don't exist.Honestly, I have turned around with many of Let's Go changes, but the retconning of future evolutions will always bother me, especially when they went out of their way to keep Mega Evolutions.
As a fan from The normal games, I probably wouldnt complain about them being "tóxic" if that was the case.Imagine fans of Let's Go review bombing gen 8 for reverting changes.
Like I'm speakin' with my wallet as much as the next person, but let's just say if even half this kinda pent up energy was put into banging on Nintendo's door for an Uprising sequel instead of acting like a bunch of embarrassments on the internet maybe I'd actually stand a chance of getting one and when you put it that way really I'm even more disappointed in everyone involved than I would be in a vacuum.
All the defense people have been rising up to give genwunners as of late makes knots in my stomach though, I've seen multiple fandoms worth of that entity of raw hate and they've earned all the pushback they get and then some. And if we're going to resort to metaphors that make anyone who disagrees look bad, attempting to provide anything resembling defense to that subculture is like both sidesing the Alt-Right and that's way more on the nose than it should be.
If just seeing a non-gen one Pokémon in online multiplayer (which Let's Go doesn't even have besides friends) is enough to ruin your experience, that sounds like a personal problem.
If you want to put these people that are stuck in 1999 on a pedestal, go ahead I guess, but I don't see anything particularly admirable about wanting to throw away all the progress the series has made because "muh nostalgia".
The Let's Go hate is less of a symptom of a lack of faith in Gen 8 and more of a cause.
The Let's Go announcement changed things because it took what were generally viewed as two of the larger problems with recent mainline Pokémon, the increasingly easy difficulty and incessant Gen 1 pandering to the point it's been overshadowing the new content, and doubled down on them so hard that a sizable contingent of people just sort of lost all faith that Game Freak might actually course correct. Before that there were actually some positive steps being taken, as Sun and Moon, despite their flaws, were somewhat of a step in the right direction. Like I said around when Let's Go was announced, it was like it was engineered to be the most disappointing possible announcement for the core Pokémon fanbase.
Ive seen NO ONE complain about the game being accesible , in fact Pokémon games have always been accesible and have 0 difficulty until after you beat the game.Well, at least his thread has been very insightful. I see something like a game being review-bombed for being too accessible to new players, and I think "what kind of fucking loser would do something like that? What's their mindset?" And then I can just read here and have my questions answered. So thanks to all the suspiciously overly defensive people in this thread for teaching me something today.
Eh, it is still telling them there are people really unhappy with this game in a way that hasn't been expressed before (and there have been a handful released now since "review bombing" has been a thing for valid comparison). The points you have listed are much more important and likely all that will matter in the end, but there is a chance they will pay a little more attention to the criticisms this time. (Shrug)All it tells GF, is there is a small vocal minority when this ships millions upon millions of units and that they made a good decision.
No REMAKE has ever been missing the ability to have all prior Pokemon in it. If you are counting Sapphire and Ruby, they were missing 45% of all Pokemon at the time of its release, Let's Go is missing 81%, it's not even comparable.
The Point was that there was a game where you couldn't get every Pokemon released at the time.No
The Pokemon were in the game in Gen 3
They just werent as easy to obtain.
You coul trade Pokrmon from Emeral or from FRLG back to RS.
And from then on you transfer them to every following generation
So this isnt the same.
Even If they said they won't, they still can. The couldn't with RS.Yes, but in both cases you had the option to trade in all your favorites in the postgame. In FRLF I could've evolved my Globat to a Crobat, or a Scyther to a Scizor. In Let's Go I can't do that, and Masuda has openly stated they won't add that feature in a future update.
Yes, but in both cases you had the option to trade in all your favorites in the postgame
User reviews can only be 0 or 10, it is lawBut why?
I mean harsh criticism (not trolling) on ERA is that person opinion and I harshly criticized the game but people review the game and giving it 0? Aside from quality it's a functional game so 0 score doesn't make any sense.
Lmao Let's Go is none of the things listedI've said it before, I'll always condone review bombing and mass disliking/downvoting as a form of consumer protest, whether it's for restrictive DRM, shoddy performance and bugs, poor workforce practices, bad behaviour by the developers, the inclusion of pay-to-win microtransactions, or anything else. Some people are disappointed in the direction of the franchise and this gives them an outlet to express that. Is it misusing the platform of user reviews for an unintended purpose? Yes, and that's the whole point.
The Point was that there was a game where you couldn't get every Pokemon released at the time.
And say " Well you just need to buy FRLG and Colosseum to get Pokemon like the Pokemon you grew up with" is really weak. Waiting two year to get every Pokemon also is weak.
Even If they said they won't, they still can. The couldn't with RS.
I not even saying that people can't be upset about there being only 151(tech. 153) Pokemon shouldn't be upset. I was upset too. But don't pretend something like this didn't happen before. Like I could say it always happens every Gen since Third Gen, especially after Fifth. The Bank always doesn't work for a year. So really this has been a thing for years.
My point and argument is that, it has happen before so you can really say it didn't. That the thing I called out. When RS released there was no way to get a lot of Pokemon. And most people didn't know about FRLG's existence.The big difference however since Gen 3 is they released Pokemon Bank. An annual subscription service that can store all your pokemon in and comes with pokemon transfer let you transfer your pokemon between games and generations. Let's Go does not have Bank Support at the moment. When or If it does get Bank Support, it will not allow transferring pokemon from other generations. So if you did pay for Bank earlier this year expected to transfer your pokemon into this game, they would be frustrated that they can't.
It's the same with Go itself. Go is up going through the Sinnoh Dex at the moment, yet despite being advertised as a game for Go players, you can't transfer over any Johto, Hoenn or Sinnoh Pokemon you have caught to this game because of simplifying things. Yeah Shedinja isn't going to work without abilities, but one questions why abilities were cut in the first place when more complex mechanics like Mega Evolutions were kept in.
I've said it before, I'll always condone review bombing and mass disliking/downvoting as a form of consumer protest, whether it's for restrictive DRM, shoddy performance and bugs, poor workforce practices, bad behaviour by the developers, the inclusion of pay-to-win microtransactions, or anything else. Some people are disappointed in the direction of the franchise and this gives them an outlet to express that. Is it misusing the platform of user reviews for an unintended purpose? Yes, and that's the whole point.
Well, arguably the term "gamers" these days is a label for the subset of people who take video games far too seriously, especially anyone who ascribes that label to themselves.This is the type of things that kind seriously pull me away from gamers. That's why we gamers can NEVER be taken seriously. This is so shameful !!!
My point and argument is that, it has happen before so you can really say it didn't. That the thing I called out. When RS released there was no way to get a lot of Pokemon. And most people didn't know about FRLG's existence.
Being upset that they're not let people transfer Pokemon from Go or the Bank is valid. But keep Pokemon locked away is a old tradition of Game Freak.
I can just point to my avatar. Not in XY(even though its opposite was), and the Bank wasn't available for months.
I haven't been following this game at all....why are people review bombing it??
Right now the system is too unbalanced in which negative trolling can have a much higher weight than over hyping. You can give 1s if you're strolling which will bring down the average by 6-7-8 points, but you can only hype it to 10 which will only only bring it up 1-2-3 points. What I'm suggesting is already applied in statistical science in the form of outlier removal.
Well, arguably the term "gamers" these days is a label for the subset of people who take video games far too seriously, especially anyone who ascribes that label to themselves.
Video games are enjoyed by pretty much everyone these days and the industry rivals Hollywood. Almost as common as watching a movie and we don't call people who like movies "filmers."
The person I first replied to said it never happened before. I called that a lie because it did happen before. No matter how easy or hard its been to transfer since. You couldn't trade between GS and RS.They did it once, every generation from Gen 4 onwards has let you transfer pokemon from previous versions of the game, and also had GTS to help those who skipped out on the previous games get pokemon from them.
I would not call it an "Old Tradition". If there's old pokemon you wanted, you could reasonably get it through either Transfers/Banks or GTS.
Bank was 2 months after X/Y Release initially before it got delayed another 2 months. But we knew long in advance before the game launched that was how it was going to be handled. We haven't had any confirmation for Bank support for LGPE at all.
The person I first replied to said it never happened before. I called that a lie because it did happen before. No matter how easy or hard its been to transfer since. You couldn't trade between GS and RS.
My point with the Bank is that, for both of the most recent Gens they've arbitrarily made it impossible to get Pokemon for months. That not even getting to having to pay for them.
Movie buffs are just pepple who knoe a lot about the trivia and BTS knowledge of films and tend to be enthusiastic about technical filmmaking.
Fallout 76 is getting shredded by critics as well.This whole thing has been silly for me, I'm sitting here enjoying Fallout 76 and Pokemon Lets Go, and they're getting review bombed by people upset that it's not exactly what they want.
It's honestly pretty fun to play with a group of friends, I haven't encountered any game breaking issues during my 30-ish hours of play.Fallout 76 is getting shredded by critics as well.
It's not because it isn't what people wanted, it's because the game is a total piece of shit. Comparing the reception of 76 to LetsGo is ridiculous.
You can make a lot of shit "fun with friends."It's honestly pretty fun to play with a group of friends, I haven't encountered any game breaking issues during my 30-ish hours of play.
There was some technical difficulties. But it was entirely possible to have the data from GS read by RS. Or have a On-site transfer stations at Gamestop or Toys-R-Us. It just wasn't worth trying so they didn't. Even if it wasn't possible, you still couldn't get all released Pokemon in RS for two years. Even post-game.you couldn't transfer from gen 2 to 3 because of technical limitations, not because GF decided to just remove content
the bank stuff is really dumb too, but at least you can get your Pokemon over eventually
While I'm somewhat giving my own perspective here, I do still stand by that things were considerably less bleak before the Let's Go announcement. The outlook wasn't exactly positive, but it certainly wasn't as bad as it is now.I'm not too sure that many of the people with low expectations for Gen 8 agree with this.
That a lie. It happen twice. And the first time it happen it was a hard cut that people had to wait years to fix.
And this is just another reason why i hope Game Freak completely ignores the hardcore fanbase an just do their own thing.
Not only the review bombing is ridiculous, the whole Pokemon fanbase has been for a great while. Every new Pokemon game announcement becomes a big "How dare they" with Gen 8 being the epítome of it because it hasn't even been shown and there's already a preemptive "How dare they" coming out of every single hardcore "fan"'s mouth.
Edit: Pokemaniac didn't play gen 3 it seems...
No, apparently every game has to cater to them.Truly those guys need to get a life.
Being so salty over a game can't be healthy. Specially when the dev announced that a game catering to their tastes is coming next year.
It's extremely accessible in terms of setting your own difficulty and learning the systems of the game, but there are some valid complaints about physical accessibility for people with limited range of movement or an inability to hold a console perfectly steady, which would be remedied with toggles for gyro and enabling handheld type controls on docked mode.Ive seen NO ONE complain about the game being accesible , in fact Pokémon games have always been accesible and have 0 difficulty until after you beat the game.
Then you have optional "Challenges" (battle Frontier) and Mulliplayer.
People complain about this game removing content and options and cathering exclusively to one group of players instead of everyone.
I learned to play videogames with Pokémon without understanding english, my sister did too.
And suddenly the games can't have ítems or ranked battles because that might confuse some people
There were no Pokémon missing in Gen 3. It took longer than normal for them all to become legitimately available
Or maybe nintendo announcing a "Core Pokémon game for 2018 or later"nintendo fans can get really ugly when they don't get exactly what they were hyping based on nothing but fantasy and fake rumors
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Problem is they can't with this game as GF purposely only added models for 153 pokemon in this game + extra forms, and nothing more. It is explicitly clear that they won't add the rest as an update. This is even worst than back than as I could at least trade in my favorites from my brothers game, or get desperate and use my friends cheating device.I not even saying that people can't be upset about there being only 151(tech. 153) Pokemon shouldn't be upset. I was upset too. But don't pretend something like this didn't happen before. Like I could say it always happens every Gen since Third Gen, especially after Fifth. The Bank always doesn't work for a year. So really this has been a thing for years.