Empressdonna Day 1
Oh day 1!nin, how I laugh at you.
I feel like this is just some weird gambit of some kind so right now, I won't jump in on the vote train.
Initial reaction to Nin's claim. Thinks it's a gambit.
:( Boo, no fun giggle allowed.
Filler
Morning all, I see that I missed more talk on nin with a few fluffy fun times in the middle.
Nin does make a good point here since it would make him stand out among the crowd, despite other votes going out. Only thing is though if we go too far down the rabbit hole of 'scum wouldn't do that', it could lead us into bad situations later on however I'm still willing to believe what I said yesterday that this is probably some sort of gambit of sorts for nin.
I do feel like maybe there could be scum in amongst the fluffy fun time posts, but then again, it is day 1. It's something to keep an eye on for sure.
Pushing again the angle that nin is doing a gambit. It's consistent with her first post, but this stance is pretty NAI. In general I don't think we are going to find many scumtells from how people reacted to nin's vanilla claim in general. Still, I don't remember many pushing the "it's a gambit" idea as much as Donna did.
I agree with you on the not understanding the votes on him. Doesn't make much sense to me right now.
Easy NAI stance.
Sorry for the wait
Fantomas.
I've kind of already covered my feelings on the votes on Faddy and the reasoning for Nin's early claim, so I won't retread old ground on that since nothing has changed for me on those.
Firstly, I'll cover the three that were in the 'fluffy post exchange' as I called it earlier:
- Stu: NAI to me, doesn't seem like his scum or town play. I honestly don't remember the last game he was joking about like this though but he could have changed up his play style again.
- B-Dubs and ET: They both set off alarm bells in my head however for different reasons. For B-dubs it is because I don't believe I've played with them so I don't know if this is something that is common and for ET, it is just because of meta alone rather than separating that play from this.
In regards to yourself, I feel you are town due to the questions and poking of others that you are doing. There are some people I'd like to hear more from as well though I am certainly not one to talk.
To clarify on that post: I don't know if B-dubs messing around with fluffposts like this is common. It's just something I find strange/unusual but like I said, it could just be lack of experience on how they play mafia.
First posts with more substance. Some stuff to point out:
- "Stu's play doesn't seem town nor scum Stuart" is a really wishy-washy stance to make. It's D1, and early D1 at that so it might be excused, but this wording is still odd.
- Here is the "ET sets off alarm bells" thing Gorlak mentioned. There isn't much here... Donna doesn't iterate here on what meta makes ET set off alarms. The stance on Dubs is kinda weak too.
- Town read on Fantomas, Fantomas was widely town-read on D1.
The only game I've played with him was when he was scum in Marvel, so yeah my meta-reading of him right now is 100% based on that alone since I've not seen his town play before.
Grizzly is a difficult one for me. I don't think he is acting like his scum self from either of the games I've played with him in, though then again, he has been the most town read scum before in one of those games. Right now, I lean towards town on him but that is just based on my feelings at the moment.
On Gorlak, I am leaning towards maybe scum? Mostly because I agree with you on that it felt a little early to ask others to jump onto a vote that they may not be sure on. I don't know, something doesn't seem right there.
First paragraph is where she talks about ET. Justifies meta read here with "well I saw them play scum there". The implication seems to be that ET played similarly in Marvel and in here, and that's why they set off alarm bells?
Morning all! Feeling a little under the weather :( hoping I feel better later.
I don't really know, it is something I've noticed but he's done this before so I don't really think it means anything?
Here she mentions about not feeling 100%. IRL reasons are ok. Comment on Zeke's shrugging is nothing.
Appreciate the get better soon, but I know you are right.
In regards to what you pointed out above about slightly going back, I only wanted to put some input into why I thought he was shrugging, if that makes sense? It's just something I picked up on but as I said, he has done it before.
On another note though, I feel like we need to hear more from
CoolestSpot. I feel like he has only commented on how he feels about you nin and not much else though right now I can't seem to search the thread to check >.<
Her inactivity was called out, she responds with apologetic "yes I know" and then tries to change the subject to CoolestSpot instead. I find this post somewhat suspicious, not that calling out CS is a bad thing, but tonally it comes off us "please don't pay attention to me, look at CS instead please."
Vote: CoolestSpot
I completely understand you are busy with exams (good luck btw) but you being quiet could potentially be very dangerous for us especially if you are scum. So for now, I'm going to put my vote on you and hope to see more from you later on in the day ^-^.
More push to CS with a vote. First vote to CS, but I don't think Donna was trying to create a lynch wagon here. It is connected to that previous post of "please pay attention to CS instead".
In regards to yourself, despite you being quiet I feel like you are contributing more than CS is right now. His posts are mostly just fluff :(.
It just makes me wary of him, that's all.
Justification to CS vote after already making said vote. Why didn't she say this earlier?
I am 100% fully aware of how ironic this vote is as others have pointed out. My current activity pales in comparison to previous games and I certainly aim to improve that.
And no, my vote was based on his lack of response to my poke and your post. I feel better about doing it though after the recent multi quote posts to be fair.
I'm currently town reading Faddy and Fantomas, scum reading Zeke and B-Dubs. I'll do a more in-depth full read list later since right now I keep getting errors with posting/searching in this thread.
Pretty sure this is first time Donna mentions Zeke, yet now she is scum reading him. Also more apologetic responses to people calling out her inactivity. Also more weak justification to her vote.
It is because of both his and your posts like I said lol.
I am having legit problems trying to search the thread so I can't really go back and look over posts without doing it manually (which would take a while and would be really annoying trying to ISO people like that), if the forum behaves itself later, I'll read back over some peoples posts and try to give an in-depth read list. But if not, all I can really give is a list of my town/scum/null which I won't lie about would be mostly based on gut feeling without being able to look back and ISO people.
Sorry if it seems lazy that I don't want to search the thread manually and would rather use the search tool but there is already a lot of posts in the game so I'd be spending a few hours looking through manually (my laptop is also slow which doesn't help things :/)
TL;DR I'll try give a read list later after I hopefully am able to search the thread properly.
This post is fine - the forum seemed to be glitchy at that time. Not sure if it's really alignment indicative though - either town or scum could have posted it.
this feels a bit weird to me considering the other posts about me being low active/not saying much etc.
What specifically about my posts do you like? Just because I do find it weird that you bring that up at the end of your post without saying why.
Slightly interesting post - asking for someone to justify their townread on her. Not sure what to make of that.
Been playing a game and I've not tried the forum search function again yet. I'll try again after dinner though so be patient please :(
NAI
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(Skipping the CS-Donna misunderstanding, even though it's amusing it's not relevant)
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I don't even know what to think of Coolest now. He's pretty weird as both town and scum.
Urgh...
Kind of wishy-washy stance post on CS.
Huh, when I tried searching for my previous posts via my profile, there is nothing in between my first post of today and a post from 27 minutes ago. Anyone else have issues with not seeing people's posts in their profiles?
Just based on your weird posts near the start of the day. Plus right now, I don't like how reactionary you are, it is less scum hunting and more reacting to people who scum read you. Not helpful to town.
Finally gives some justification to why she scumreads Zeke. I do agree that Zeke has been widely reactionary in this game, even after this post, and it gives me some pause.
Well for example, posts #505 and #508 shows a few examples of you specifically trying to discredit votes against you with weak reasoning imo and I've seen you do this in past games though admittedly you were town then but it's not helpful and rubs me the wrong way when you spend more time defending yourself than hunting scum.
Also shrugging all the time is annoying.
And, like I said before the forums have been messing up today including other people's posts not being in their post history. It's not exactly easy to go back and read everything now :/
Some more justification to the Zeke read. This post is kind of weak to me – using shrugging by itself as scumread is kind of dumb, heh.
I'm not feeling well (think the food I had at dinner didn't agree with me) which is why I've not said much the last few hours.
I've seen CS act weird as town before but right now he feels over the top even more than usual.
Basically I think CS is as scummy as fuck.
This is a weird post. The last sentence does not seem to fit with the first one at all, and is not really that consistent with her previous posts about CS. This was posted close to end of day, when ET vs CS was burning hot. She makes no comment about ET, in fact she hasn't mentioned him at all for a good while.
Onwards to Day 2…