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Dota 2 Patch 7.20 live - Major patch with many hero and item reworks

Skittles

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Ogre got nerfed decently hard. Lot harder to put out damage without scepter and his team buffing went wayyyyyy down. That talent AS talent isn't nearly as good now
 
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HylianSeven

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Skittles said:
Ogre got nerfed decently hard. Lot harder to put out damage without scepter and his team buffing went wayyyyyy down. That talent AS talent isn't nearly as good now
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Nah Ogre got buffed.

I was confused what it meant by "no longer has passive improvements". What it actually means is it can still multicast his spells, but they don't have stuff like the range, cooldown, etc.
 
Mobyduck

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Bounty Hunter now literally steals your gold. Treads no longer gives AS. Aquila is gone. What has happened to this game.
 
Skittles

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HylianSeven said:
Nah Ogre got buffed.

I was confused what it meant by "no longer has passive improvements". What it actually means is it can still multicast his spells, but they don't have stuff like the range, cooldown, etc.
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Nopee, ignite is straight up worse now along with bloodlust and fireblast.

Nerfs w.r.t level 3 multicast
Ignite:
no longer has an AOE effect so can only hit 2 units at max unless a multicast occurs
Has a worst cast range

Bloodlust:
Cooldown got increased by 9 seconds
Movement speed nerfed

Fireblast:
Cooldown increased by 3 seconds

Multicast working with items is nice, but how many offensive items does ogre even get to make that truly good?
 
Durante

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It's amusing to see people lose their minds over specific parts of these long-ass patch notes (as someone who has no idea about DOTA2). The closest I ever got to that was being really into some MMOs and dreading/anticipating their balance changes.
 
Mobyduck

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  • Finger of Death now gets stronger with each kill. Gains +50 Damage per hero kill. If the enemy dies within 3 seconds of being hit by the ability, the bonus is still granted
Each day we stray further from the light of God and closer to HotS
 
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HylianSeven

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Durante said:
It's amusing to see people lose their minds over specific parts of these long-ass patch notes (as someone who has no idea about DOTA2). The closest I ever got to that was being really into some MMOs and dreading/anticipating their balance changes.
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The biggest ones are the ones that have "Ability Rework" or "Item Rework" on them. Some of these are very old abilities brought back from Dota 1 years ago in some form. Two examples of this are Keeper of the Light's new ultimate, Ignis Faatus, and Drow's new ultimate. They're not 100% the same as they were then, but have a lot in common.
 
Mobyduck

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HylianSeven said:
The biggest ones are the ones that have "Ability Rework" or "Item Rework" on them. Some of these are very old abilities brought back from Dota 1 years ago in some form. Two examples of this are Keeper of the Light's new ultimate, Ignis Faatus, and Drow's new ultimate. They're not 100% the same as they were then, but have a lot in common.
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Honestly, for me, the biggest changes are in the first section. I haven't played the game in almost a year, but some of those changes are crazy! A lot of spells now no longer pierce BKB, some roots no longer cancel channeling, you can now scan the rosh pit, you no longer get XP for denying, instead of get gold! I'm very curious to see what pro players are talking about this, because this should mean huges changes to the meta.
 
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HylianSeven

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ned_ballad said:
If they removed Tusk's Sigil, what does that mean for cosmetic Sigils people may have?
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I didn't even think of this, that sucks. This is actually the first time they have removed a skill that had cosmetics for it. There was even a cosmetic of the Vici Gaming logo for it.
 
Fezan

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The best thing about new patch sperate space in entry for TP. No need to worry about cooldown when someone is rating
 

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Durante said:
It's amusing to see people lose their minds over specific parts of these long-ass patch notes (as someone who has no idea about DOTA2). The closest I ever got to that was being really into some MMOs and dreading/anticipating their balance changes.
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After a while, a patch/the meta gets stale because people find out what works and what doesn't. So when a new big patch like this one hits, it freshens up the game.
 
B00T

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I haven't played Dota 2 in close to a year and half. Maybe it's time to jump back in, even if it's just for co-op.
 

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Dagon Ogre is the meme dream

Also kinda funny that they brought back a reworked version of KOTL's super old ultimate. I wonder how many people here even remember that thing?
 
Adnor

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MULTICAST DAGON LET'S GO

I haven't put any real time into Dota since before they moved Roshan, the first time. And I never was good at it. I wonder how difficult it would be to go back.
 
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HylianSeven

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Skab said:
Dagon Ogre is the meme dream

Also kinda funny that they brought back a reworked version of KOTL's super old ultimate. I wonder how many people here even remember that thing?
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Honestly the current iteration is more interesting now. I saw that previous one watching videos of historical stuff in Dota, and it was weird...not necessarily interesting. It didn't have the flashing mechanic and had a global blink on a 1 second cooldown, and then could summon a ton of priests that would pummel towers.
 
justiceiro

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map changes
The maps has been changed
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No shit

Exclusive tp slot: oh no, lol got us, but it's stupid that you can't put travel boots there. I'm running out of shortcuts at this point.

And this "fire based spell" sounds dumb. We Pokemon now?

Vector targeting in other spells sounds great.

Bye Aquila, you were a dead end anyway.

Phoenix got yet another nerf, to hell with you icefrog. But i wonder if Phoenix ult during balanar ult, if he will lose his powers.

The random changes are a godsend.

What that kill change means for the comeback mechanic? You get gold, but not XP anymore...

Edit: lion ks is now justified, great.
 
Tagyhag

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I usually reinstall dota to play for a bit when we get these kinds of patches.

Aquila tho :(
 
jediyoshi

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Didn't even mention the map

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We've all got high ground now bois
 
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HylianSeven

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McBradders said:
Bloody hell. How is anyone supposed to absorb this?
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It's something that comes with time playing the game, and understanding the heroes skills, items, etc.. To someone without Dota experience it can understandably be hard.

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It's not hard
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Or you know, maybe people that have little to know Dota experience might not be able to grasp everything in here because they don't have the skills of all heroes and items memorized yet. No need to act like a dick and talk down to people.
 

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Lol I've got like 3k hours but haven't played in a good 18 months or so other than some turbo matches over the last few weeks.
 
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HylianSeven

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McBradders said:
Lol I've got like 3k hours but haven't played in a good 18 months or so other than some turbo matches over the last few weeks.
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Ah yeah you've still missed a decent amount then. The last megapatch was about a year ago if I'm not mistaken, and then there were small patches all the way through TI8, a small patch after TI, and then here we are at 7.20.
 

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Surprised and disappointed Riki wasn't hit hard by the nerf stick. Been playing turbo only since 20-30 min bite size matches are my thing.
 
pochi

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They remove Anti Mage 4000k aghs and turn it into his 3rd skill but better. Block and reflect ALL SPELLS. Has 3 sec cd at max and 40 mana cost.

I might be overeacting but still it's too good.
 
rsfour

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Out of town, can't wait to get some games in when I get back.

Where's my tinker bulldozer aghs.
 
vestan

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Was wondering when we'd see these

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Also that Clinkz ult change, don't know how to feel about it. It's solid sure but Death Pact is so fucking good. You can completely take over a game if you get a quick deso and lvl 2 death pact. The new map looks so dope holy shit.

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this camp near mid

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mhm, idk how to feel about this. brew is my most played mid and the drunken haze spam lets you establish so much dominance in lane but cinder brew just feels weak.

that AM spell shield rework though, i agree his scepter was too strong but this seems nuts. 3 second CD lmao.
 
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