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Erza won

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 26.2%
  • Oh hell yes

    Votes: 45 73.8%

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ReiGun

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Venom salt is a bit different because the movie itself is rated poorly. I need Aquaman to both be rated highly and make Bank in order for me to enjoy the salt
I have no interest in the Venom movie at all, but the salt has been extraordinary. People wanted it to fail so much and it's just....not. It keeps making money and folks are beside themselves.
 

MHWilliams

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Oct 25, 2017
10,473
I told y'all to believe in the Chosen Wan.

Shrug, it makes more money clickbait wise to suggest that 'hey this next movie may not be good! click here to see why'

Doesn't have to be DC or Marvel but I am noticing that spin lately
Pretty much this.

I have no interest in the Venom movie at all, but the salt has been extraordinary. People wanted it to fail so much and it's just....not. It keeps making money and folks are beside themselves.

It's just like Suicide Squad for me. Not that great, keeps making money, but whatever. Avatar made a billy and that burned those types of feelings out of me long ago. What makes money, makes money.
 

broncobuster

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Oct 26, 2017
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Tbf DC's track record is pretty shit, so I can understand the worry.

That's kinda the fundamental problem with how some of these movies are treated nowadays and the tendency to disassociate the people involved in favor of studios and brands.

There are five DCEU movies. Two are Snyder's. One is a Frankenstein creation from Snyder and Whedon. One is David Ayer. One is Patty Jenkins. You take a step back and it's four movies from divisive at best directors and one from a well regarded director.

You have/had this attitude towards the Bumblebee movie, too, writing it off as another Transformers movie. But that franchise is five entries from Michael Bay and Bumblebee from Travis Knight, who handled the great Kubo.

There's an argument to be made of some nebulous concern over the studio inferring with talented directors trying to work, but then you start wading into this chicken little territory of anything can go wrong.
 

ReiGun

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Tbf DC's track record is pretty shit, so I can understand the worry.
I understood it more after the first trailer. Even after the second. However, at this point, when basically everyone who has seen it is saying it's good I'm inclined to believe them.

And it's not a DC exclusive thing, mind you. We go through this song and dance with different blockbusters and it never makes sense to me. If you want to be excited for a movie, then dismissing it every time someone tries to give you a reason to be excited seems counterproductive. But then, I find so much about the culture surrounding these movies to be strange. So maybe I'm just never gonna get it.

It's just like Suicide Squad for me. Not that great, keeps making money, but whatever. Avatar made a billy and that burned those types of feelings out of me long ago. What makes money, makes money.
Having not seen the movie, it does feel like a Suicide Squad situation: a regular ass bad movie that's labeled an abomination by the hardcores, but general audiences still dig it for whatever charm it has or whatever it does right. I probably won't see it till it hits Netflix, but I'm not at all shocked to see it doing so well. Sounds like a fun watch.
 

MHWilliams

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Oct 25, 2017
10,473
Having not seen the movie, it does feel like a Suicide Squad situation: a regular ass bad movie that's labeled an abomination by the hardcores, but general audiences still dig it for whatever charm it has or whatever it does right. I probably won't see it till it hits Netflix, but I'm not at all shocked to see it doing so well. Sounds like a fun watch.

Exactly the same situation. Neither film is the worst thing ever made, but not really good either. It's clear why critics don't like it, but the general audience finds enough to enjoy. Venom has dodgy CGI and a bad plot, but it's great watching Hardy ham it up.
 

broncobuster

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Oct 26, 2017
8,139
I understood it more after the first trailer. Even after the second. However, at this point, when basically everyone who has seen it is saying it's good I'm inclined to believe them.

And it's not a DC exclusive thing, mind you. We go through this song and dance with different blockbusters and it never makes sense to me. If you want to be excited for a movie, then dismissing it every time someone tries to give you a reason to be excited seems counterproductive. But then, I find so much about the culture surrounding these movies to be strange. So maybe I'm just never gonna get it.


Having not seen the movie, it does feel like a Suicide Squad situation: a regular ass bad movie that's labeled an abomination by the hardcores, but general audiences still dig it for whatever charm it has or whatever it does right. I probably won't see it till it hits Netflix, but I'm not at all shocked to see it doing so well. Sounds like a fun watch.

If I still had movie pass, I would've seen Venom in theaters, but yeah, it's a wait to watch it on streaming thing for me. Didn't mess with Solo, Jurassic World 2, or Ant-Man 2 in theaters either.
 

Penguin

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Oct 25, 2017
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That's kinda the fundamental problem with how some of these movies are treated nowadays and the tendency to disassociate the people involved in favor of studios and brands.

There are five DCEU movies. Two are Snyder's. One is a Frankenstein creation from Snyder and Whedon. One is David Ayer. One is Patty Jenkins. You take a step back and it's four movies from divisive at best directors and one from a well regarded director.

You have/had this attitude towards the Bumblebee movie, too, writing it off as another Transformers movie. But that franchise is five entries from Michael Bay and Bumblebee from Travis Knight, who handled the great Kubo.

There's an argument to be made of some nebulous concern over the studio inferring with talented directors trying to work, but then you start wading into this chicken little territory of anything can go wrong.

This is actually a good point that I've never thought of.

I guess it's a fallout from the MCU and Harry Potter models, where the brands are bigger than the creatives so you just kind of lump everything together.
 

Ashhong

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Oct 26, 2017
16,591
Damn, have a concert on that day. Guess I'll just preorder my Thursday night screening instead.
 

Vinimaw

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Oct 28, 2017
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Doesn't work in France, but the release is the 19th.
There will certainly be some showings the 18th evening also.
 

broncobuster

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Oct 26, 2017
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broncobuster

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Oct 26, 2017
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I get the sense that Arthur doesn't learn to communicate with aquatic life until late in this movie. And why it's not something in JL or earlier scenes here.
 

Rvaan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Was it just me Orm sound off? To me it sounds like he is talking underwater which would be ok if everyone else didn't sound fine when it looked like they are talking underwater.
 

Wingfan19

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Oct 25, 2017
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Now THAT'S a trailer that gets the hype juices flowing. God damn that's what I always imagined an Aquaman movie to look like.
 

Lashley

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Oct 25, 2017
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Avoiding the trailer, saw one today before Fantastic Beasts. I'll be going to see it. Don't need 7 trailers.
 

Ashhong

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Oct 26, 2017
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Was it just me Orm sound off? To me it sounds like he is talking underwater which would be ok if everyone else didn't sound fine when it looked like they are talking underwater.

I noticed that too. I'm hoping it's just because maybe he's in some kind of tunnel or room underwater lol

Anybody know what the song is? I hope it's his theme song or something, sounds epic. I take it back. It NEEDS to be his theme. The way it crescendos with the logo is so good
 

luca

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Oct 25, 2017
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Winstead just confirmed the January start date for the production of Birds of Prey.
 

broncobuster

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Oct 26, 2017
8,139
I thought WB didn't give a shit about continuity anymore. See: Wonder Woman

Maybe. But we know Mr. Wan asked Mr. Snyder not to show specific aspects of Aquaman to save for the solo movie. Like, he didn't want Arthur to see Atlantis proper until the events of Aquaman.

Could've been that he didn't want Arthur commanding aquatic life, as it'd be a big moment in the solo movie. And the line in JL where Bruce tells Arthur to ask fish where Steppenwolf is (...) was part of the reshoots. Whereas the original joke was just a jab from Bruce.
 

broncobuster

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Oct 26, 2017
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Finally able to watch the trailer. Man, everything since that lame SDCC trailer has been dope. Didn't make the best first impression but I'm all in now.

If I had to nitpick, the trailers don't show off Orm all that much. Really like Patrick Wilson in everything and hoping for something great. I think he's good enough to turn a one dimensional villain into something more, kinda like Shannon did with Zod. We'll see.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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After watching all these trailers, I think the only thing that could disappoint me is If they kill off Orm in this one. Patrick Wilson has the potential to knock this out of the park, depending on how they wrote him I suppose. Want him to be DCEU's Loki in a way.

Finger's crossed.


Also, Inst is a dope
 
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