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Excruciating old movies that did not age well
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Personally I find pretty much every Matthew Broderick is heavily featured in an excruciating experience with few exceptions.
Anyway I guess this is turned into a not holding up despite nostalgia topic so, I used to watch Garbage Pail kids frequently as a kid... Not even the strongest nostalgia goggles can save that piece of shit.
It's been a long time since I saw it but learning about Judith Barsi's murder ruined it and All Dogs Go To Heaven for me as a kid.
Anyway I guess this is turned into a not holding up despite nostalgia topic so, I used to watch Garbage Pail kids frequently as a kid... Not even the strongest nostalgia goggles can save that piece of shit.
It's been a long time since I saw it but learning about Judith Barsi's murder ruined it and All Dogs Go To Heaven for me as a kid.
I think it's been said, but there's a few ways movies age badly. A lot of movies are dated in one respect but are still a great watch, others might be dated on several fronts. Some might be good but so egregious in one area that it really taints the rest of the movie.
- Racism/Sexism/Homophobia
I still like The Breakfast Club although I wince at certain parts. A lot of other 80s comedies don't fare as well, like Sixteen Candles. Ferris Bueller's Day Off is pretty good except for one particularly nasty-but-veiled homophobia sequence. (FB himself is a psychopath, but that was always true.) Non-Hughes teen comedies of the era are often even worse, lacking the "good parts" and just being left with the terrible parts (Revenge of the Nerds being a famous example).
Bond movies are particularly bad in this category. Some have a great plot of villain or stunts and that might carry them over the line, but plenty don't.
- Effects
Effects generally aren't a big draw for me, so when they age out I don't mind. I grew up watching Harryhausen and rubber suit monster movies on Saturday afternoon TV and had no issues with them. So Star Wars is fine because the story's good (and the acting was always terrible, but the story transcended it). Terminator 2 has some effects which are no longer impressive, but the movie is extremely compelling and it doesn't rely on the effects to make it an interesting movie.
- Acting style/shooting style/pace
This is mostly taste. Some old movies I used to like seem slow to me, but I can't think of any clear-cut examples. I think this is why people dislike The Godfather. The pace is slow by modern standards. I love it, but there are a lot of shots of that wedding that I can see people disliking.
I watched the 1974 Murder on the Orient Express after seeing the modern version, and I didn't get the appeal at all. Ingrid Bergman won an Oscar and I don't know how. The modern version has its own issues, but the old one is flat, shot very statically, and is full of mannered and bland performances.
- Novelty which isn't novel anymore
Somebody mentioned Taxi Driver and I could see that. I generally like the way that movie just rolls around in its squalor and bleakness, so I don't think I mind. But I can see how the last act packs the punch it used to (I haven't seen this one in a long time and when I did I loved it).
For me, this would be American Beauty, which blew my mind on first watch but didn't really hold up long at all. Citizen Kane might be another example, except that I personally find the story and character of Kane extremely compelling and I love it.
Another example would be Batman 89. It was so fresh that on first viewing I loved it, but even the first time I watched in on VHS a year later, I thought it was kinda bad. (Returns is so much better.)
I finally saw Sleepless in Seattle recently and didn't like it at all. I'm not sure if it was just the at-the-time fresh story or what that made it a hit. On the other hand, When Harry Met Sally is still awesome and I've seen that recently.
- References which are just old
Shrek? My son this morning told me he thinks Shrek is the worst movie he's seen. He's 10 (and has seen plenty of movies that I think are horrible). But I would suppose that most of the humor just doesn't work at all anymore.
- Racism/Sexism/Homophobia
I still like The Breakfast Club although I wince at certain parts. A lot of other 80s comedies don't fare as well, like Sixteen Candles. Ferris Bueller's Day Off is pretty good except for one particularly nasty-but-veiled homophobia sequence. (FB himself is a psychopath, but that was always true.) Non-Hughes teen comedies of the era are often even worse, lacking the "good parts" and just being left with the terrible parts (Revenge of the Nerds being a famous example).
Bond movies are particularly bad in this category. Some have a great plot of villain or stunts and that might carry them over the line, but plenty don't.
- Effects
Effects generally aren't a big draw for me, so when they age out I don't mind. I grew up watching Harryhausen and rubber suit monster movies on Saturday afternoon TV and had no issues with them. So Star Wars is fine because the story's good (and the acting was always terrible, but the story transcended it). Terminator 2 has some effects which are no longer impressive, but the movie is extremely compelling and it doesn't rely on the effects to make it an interesting movie.
- Acting style/shooting style/pace
This is mostly taste. Some old movies I used to like seem slow to me, but I can't think of any clear-cut examples. I think this is why people dislike The Godfather. The pace is slow by modern standards. I love it, but there are a lot of shots of that wedding that I can see people disliking.
I watched the 1974 Murder on the Orient Express after seeing the modern version, and I didn't get the appeal at all. Ingrid Bergman won an Oscar and I don't know how. The modern version has its own issues, but the old one is flat, shot very statically, and is full of mannered and bland performances.
- Novelty which isn't novel anymore
Somebody mentioned Taxi Driver and I could see that. I generally like the way that movie just rolls around in its squalor and bleakness, so I don't think I mind. But I can see how the last act packs the punch it used to (I haven't seen this one in a long time and when I did I loved it).
For me, this would be American Beauty, which blew my mind on first watch but didn't really hold up long at all. Citizen Kane might be another example, except that I personally find the story and character of Kane extremely compelling and I love it.
Another example would be Batman 89. It was so fresh that on first viewing I loved it, but even the first time I watched in on VHS a year later, I thought it was kinda bad. (Returns is so much better.)
I finally saw Sleepless in Seattle recently and didn't like it at all. I'm not sure if it was just the at-the-time fresh story or what that made it a hit. On the other hand, When Harry Met Sally is still awesome and I've seen that recently.
- References which are just old
Shrek? My son this morning told me he thinks Shrek is the worst movie he's seen. He's 10 (and has seen plenty of movies that I think are horrible). But I would suppose that most of the humor just doesn't work at all anymore.
...as if millions of memes suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced
Now it's getting personal!
Assuming you are talking about the 1968 version, why you think it has aged badly?
Old movies that aged well: Good, bad and the ugly.
Million Dollar Baby.
Compare it to Once Upon a Time in America which felt really slow. Also, I remember thinking that Big Lebowski was like the funniest thing ever at the time, after a recent rewatch it felt... stale. I'd recommend A Serious Man instead.
Million Dollar Baby.
Compare it to Once Upon a Time in America which felt really slow. Also, I remember thinking that Big Lebowski was like the funniest thing ever at the time, after a recent rewatch it felt... stale. I'd recommend A Serious Man instead.
yea I'm talking about the original
I guess it's the idea if what sci fi is like today vs back then. It just feels really campy and rationalizing how the apes evolved to be like humans just doesn't make sense.
It's a great movie. It just feels really old now and aged poorly.
Me and my girlfriend rewatched the Rocky series recently, and those first two films have aged miserably. Rocky and Adrian's relationship is built on nothing, and his first kiss with her is one of the most uncomfortable scenes I've watched this year.
Combine that with the lack of actual boxing in those two first movies, and it makes for a rough watch. The final fights of both movies are still completely stunning, but you can very much tell these two were the foundation of the modern sports film - a foundation that other people made strong alterations to in order to survive.
3 & 4 are still some enjoyable cheese, though. 5 is kinda shit, but it does subvert the premise in a few interesting ways.
Combine that with the lack of actual boxing in those two first movies, and it makes for a rough watch. The final fights of both movies are still completely stunning, but you can very much tell these two were the foundation of the modern sports film - a foundation that other people made strong alterations to in order to survive.
3 & 4 are still some enjoyable cheese, though. 5 is kinda shit, but it does subvert the premise in a few interesting ways.
Comedies in general almost never age well. They kind of need to be enjoyed in the moment for maximum impact.
There are exceptions, but they are GOAT comedies like Coming to America or Spinal Tap.
For me most movies age just fine. The things that never age well are scenes where a girl is tricked or forced into sex (its ok because they show her liking it 5 minutes later, ugh that shit is creepy) and of course some racism. Its pretty subjecting though. Somehow I don't mind the racism in something like 48 hours. But when it is just thrown around or casual then it seems to be bother me more than when it is overt.
There are exceptions, but they are GOAT comedies like Coming to America or Spinal Tap.
For me most movies age just fine. The things that never age well are scenes where a girl is tricked or forced into sex (its ok because they show her liking it 5 minutes later, ugh that shit is creepy) and of course some racism. Its pretty subjecting though. Somehow I don't mind the racism in something like 48 hours. But when it is just thrown around or casual then it seems to be bother me more than when it is overt.
I definitely agree with you about comedies having a short shelf life. Either the "comedy" is too broad or what was once considered funny isn't by today's standards. I heard that Duck Soup is pretty good and it's one of a few comedies that made it on the AFI list of 100 best American movies of all time.
Saying something has aged poorly doesn't imply that it wa snever good.
The length isn't the reason it aged badlyShould have been edited down by half at least.
watch it as a netflix series of 6 40 min chapters. netflix already does those fake 1 season series = camouflaged long movie.Should have been edited down by half at least.
I'm burning this post. My wife loves this movie and forced me to watch it before we had kids (massive raining day). Never again, even in 40mins blocks. I must hide this information.
I saw this for the first time... about 7 years ago? I already knew the twist and a lot of other references from The Simpsons.
Anyway, I loved it and don't think it aged that badly at all. Now, if you want to talk about the sequels well they really show their age. But the original still holds up, in my opinion.
It does retain a 60s feel, but due to the setting and circumstances of the story I don't think it's inappropriate.
Edit: the 2001 version is a crime against humanity though
I know it's not good to post in a thread about how you didn't read the thread, but I only made it to page three -- I had to stop because I was afraid this one vein in my temple was going to pop.
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
I blame all of you for giving AT&T a reason to kill FilmStruck.
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
I blame all of you for giving AT&T a reason to kill FilmStruck.
Came here to say this. Went back to Rocky after LOVING Creed, and it is a movie without a single sympathetic character.
No, this is a you problem.
What in the hell is this goddamn fucking nonsense? Rocky is one of the all-time greats, and the only poorly aged thing in it is the awkward "don't leave my apartment, shy woman who is clearly uncomfortable" scene.
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Problem is the conclusion you pose lines up neatly with TERFs that refer to gender reassignment as 'a midlife crisis' or 'mental sickness leading to self mutilation'. Ace Ventura's punchline was a crowd of men vomiting at the thought of a transwoman.
I seriously cannot make it through Léon: The Professional. The creep factor is so unbelievably high that it makes my stomach churn. Luc Besson being a total fucking cretan doesn't help either.
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Gone with the Wind is the film I thought of when I read the title.
I remember watching it and while it still holds up in places the whole neo-confederate premise is gross. It belongs in the same bin as Birth of a Nation.
I remember watching it and while it still holds up in places the whole neo-confederate premise is gross. It belongs in the same bin as Birth of a Nation.
Gone With the Wind is a rare film that could really benefit from a remake, one that doesn't shy away from the horrors of slavery. The core root of the film is fine, it's just that period perspectives on race and slavery dilute and corrupt the experience.
I still think Rosemary's Baby is pretty damn good, although the last couple of minutes are pretty wacky
I even forgot the name until you mentioned it here, like for the last 23 years, and the minute I read your post I immediately remembered that's the movie
Holy shit I have not thought about that movie since I was a 7 year old and it was on television and it horrified me
I even forgot the name until you mentioned it here, like for the last 23 years, and the minute I read your post I immediately remembered that's the movie
This and KIDS. I never understood the aclaim, but was always bothered by unecessarily graphic shots of underage actors.
Hmm I wonder how much that's to do with all the crazy amount of cutting the movie underwent to make it more "palatable"
ah yes, because special effects quality are the only metric by which we deem a movie's quality
Luke's a whiny bitch. All the "wise and awesome master Obi Wan" offers Luke like five minutes of training and wisdom to Luke. Read the article I linked to.
But also yes, of the special effects are so bad it distracts from the movie it does tend to effec the overall quality of the movie. You see all the time from posters here, with new movies saying the CGI was so bad it was distracting.
Watched M*A*S*H for the first time last year and was really put off by the way the film treated Houlihan getting sexually harassed as a joke.
The only thing that didn't age well about this movie is the fact that the revolutionary things about it are just normal now-a-days. The movie is still 100% watchable and doesn't feel dated at all but it's also just a pretty decent movie now.
I know right? Rocky is one of the most likable protagonists in cinema.
