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This is ResetEra's weekend box office thread. While the OP focuses on the popular weekend tallies, we typically discuss box office throughout the week as well when notable films are playing. New threads are are posted each Sunday morning, between 8-10am PST.



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'Crimes Of Grindelwald' Falls Short Stateside With $62M Debut, Celebrates Overseas Win As 'Fantastic Beasts' Series Hits $1 Billion-Plus

Warner Bros. is celebrating the overseas win for J.K. Rowling's Fantastic Beasts and the Crimes of Grindelwald after the movie came in lower than expected in U.S./Canada with a studio-reported $62.2M after a $21.5M Saturday that was down -16% from Friday's (+previews) $25.7M. Overseas took in $191M for a $253M global debut. This easily gets Fantastic Beasts franchise past the $1 billion mark (the first chapter repping over 80% of that number to date). Given the global win for Grindelwald, for Warners it's about the further extension of their Potter/Rowling universe which trickles down into the veins of consumer products and other ancillaries; what princesses are for Disney, Rowling characters are for Warner Bros. The global start for this pic is higher than FB1 which was close to $220M, with foreign repping 71% of its final $814M WW tally.

We dissected what went amiss here with the sequel in the previous update. Critics think that Rowling and David Yates threw everything and the kitchen sink in this Part 2 which runs two hours and 14 minutes, the same length as the first installment. Obviously there's not a lot of fervor from Potter fans to show up to these Beasts spinoffs in U.S./Canada and this time they took their CinemaScore down from an A to a B+, though in Screen Engine/ComScore audience exits they're not that far off going from 4 1/2 stars on Part 1 to 4 stars on Grindelwald. Demo range on the film was comprised of 54% Caucasian, 18% Hispanic, 19% Asian, & 9% African American. Kids enjoyed it more than parents 89% to 83%. Updated exits show that the crowd was 52% female with 52% over 25. Imax hubs in U.S./Canada grossed $7.5M, repping 12% of the pic's opening weekend. All together through two days, PLF, Imax and 3D accounted for 42% of Grindelwald's business. There were a number of pre-sales we hear on Thursday and Friday, but much more walk-up business on Saturday. The anticipation is that continues into today.

Paramount's Instant Family's grosses grew from Friday to what we're seeing this morning which is a $14.7M opening. Saturday spiked 29% with $5.8M over Friday which means all these glowing audience scores (A CinemaScore, 83% overall PosTrak postivie score) are in effect, impacting word of mouth. The opening versus its $48M production cost isn't spectacular, but there's hope that this film could leg out and be the fourth choice in a crowded family-product marquee over Thanksgiving. The pic played best in West where 9 of the top 10 runs came from with the Midwest & Southwest over-indexing. Based on ComScore PostTrack polling throughout the weekend, the pic's composition of General, Parents and Kids was three quarters general audiences (77%) and the rest split equally between parents and kids (12%, 11%), a balance per Paramount that's nearly identical to Daddy's Home and its sequel. CinemaScore exits on Friday night showed 65% females, 61% over 35 with close to half the audience women over 25. Demo breakdown showed 56% Caucasian, 23% Hispanic, 13% African American, 5% Asian and 4% other. In terms of ratings, PostTrack also shows audiences are loving the movie with excellent ratings at 47%, and definite recommendations at 61%, well above the PostTrack PG13 Comedy and Family Comedy Norms (38%/54% for pg-13 Comedy and 42%/55% for Family Norms)

20th Century Fox/New Regency/See-Saw's Widows still not so hot in regards to its $42M production cost with a $12.3M opening in 5th place. Business was +18% Saturday over Friday with $4.97M. There was a disconnect between critics and audiences here with the pic receiving a 91% certified fresh score, but a B CinemaScore. Fox Searchlight platformed Steve McQueen's fare in the past with Shame and 12 Years a Slave, and that might have been the best tee-up here as this film heads into the aorta of awards season in mid-December, however, the director sought to make a socially conscious film inside of a popular genre. The fact that it's a hybrid film isn't it's shortcoming. Here is a film which speaks to the #MeToo and Time's Up era and knocks our inflammatory rhetoric-ridden leading political officials. Why isn't selling? Our sources believe that there wasn't any urgency in the marketing campaign, and it's a note to all of those with awards contenders that you can't sell a film on its reviews alone. The female ensemble which stars Viola Davis, Michelle Rodriguez, Elizabeth Debicki, and Cynthia Erivo drew 55% females, 55% under 35 years old with 49% Caucasian, 23% African American, 15% Hispanic, & 13% Asian. We hear that Widows played best in the East and Southeast where seven of the top ten runs came from.
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DOMESTIC WEEKEND BOX OFFICE



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WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE UPDATES

Fantastic Beasts 2 - $253M

Venom - $781M
Bohemian Rhapsody - $384M
A Star is Born - $341M
Halloween - $251M
The Grinch - $152M
The Nutcracker and the Four Realms - $116M
A Dragon Tattoo Story - $27M







Weekend Box Office Archive and Appendix


Thread Archive

Web links to box office resources

Explanation of Box Office Terms, Abbreviations, and Concepts
 

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China Update: Venom had a better 2nd weekend than Infinity War in local currency the exchange rates are why in came in slightly under. Venom did 51.2M over the weekend in China against the 54.1M of IW. Venom is (likely) to start semi consistently beating IW in daily tracking starting on Monday. For week 3 IW had a 67.8% overall drop week over in China.




Using BOM for IW and JWFK and Venoms opening and Gavins stuff for Venom (there exists minor variance between trackers due to fluctuating exchange rates)


Venom 3-Day
Saturday
Friday $12.29M / $165.94M
Saturday - $23.14M / $189.03M
Sunday $15.67M / $204.72M

Opening Weekend including Thursday previews and midnights
Infinity War $200.5M
Venom $110.3M (other places report 111M, but BOM say 110.3M?)
Jurrasic World FK

2nd Weekends with weekend over weekend drop from opening
IW 54.1M -71.7%
Venom 51.2M -53.5%
Jurassic World FK 34.1M -69.4%

10 Day Total
Infinity War 301.4M
Venom 205.5M
Jurassic World FK 203.6M

Lifetime
Infinity War 359.5M (+58.1M)
Jurassic World FK 260. M (+57.6M)


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I'm not sure if Gavin rounds, he might just chop off all the other digits. That would explain why he's slightly lower than BOR for the weekend (51.1M v 51.2) and the total (204.72M v 207.1M). I'll keep that in mind for the future.

Noobie, I'll make that post now my dude. :)
 
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Depp continuing his streak as worse returning Hollywood actor
 

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Not pretty drops for The Girl in the Spider's Web or Overlord, and that opening for Widows is soft as hell. Shame.

Both At Eternity's Gate and Green Book opened okay, but do not look poised for a break out.
The Front Runner is not catching on, RIP Hugh Jackman's Oscar chances.

Really impressed with Maria by Callas, I thought it would be way too niche to pull the numbers it's doing. If that doesn't get adjusted down, that's growth in both theatres and PTA.
 

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Depp looking like a Tim Burton character was an instant turnoff to me. I'm done watching him be weird for the sake of it
 

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Damn audiences getting tired of the Wizarding World?

for sure thought it would do 80-100+ mil easily

also damn Venom at $800mil, remember Era going it won't even make $80mil, lol
 
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Can You Ever Forgive Me? is performing really softly for a film that has one of the frontrunners for the big acting awards this year.

The Academy is going to have that same problem this year where all of the films that critics and their voters raved over made no money.
 

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Uncharted with Tom Holland and Bryan Cranston will be the next surprise hit from Sony Pictures, mark my words
It will also be the best video game movie when it's released, lock it in
 

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Can You Ever Forgive Me? is performing really softly for a film that has one of the frontrunners for the big acting awards this year.

The Academy is going to have that same problem this year where all of the films that critics and their voters raved over made no money
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I always imagine that is fairly common
 

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It's funny that as the rotten tomatoes score gets lower each movie makes more money.
 

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This sub franchise is not going well so far. Overseas will carry it forward but it's dying in the US market.

Widows looks like a write-off sadly, I doubt it does much more than that. The Instant Family comedy will probably have good enough legs, it's been well received. Spider's Web is a fairly spectacular bomb. It's also crazy how fast Halloween dropped off the second October ended. Still a massive success of course.
It's a pretty weak-ass weekend overall.
 
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Looks that way to me. Not enough in the tank to Homecoming I think, but that would be just bizarre.

Worldwide outside of China dropped off pretty quickly. Venom only made $10M in the past week not counting China. Thanksgiving weekend will help a bit next week domestically, but domestic is looking like it has $5-7M left. Enough to pass Solo, and maybe edge over AMatW, but we are nearing the endpoint.
 

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If I hadn't given away my Maximum Carnage comics long ago I would apologise to them right now. And then throw them in the trash.
 

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Why not Tom Hardy as both.
That's Commander Tom Hardy to you

Tom Hardy has become a member of the Order of the British Empire. In a ceremony earlier today, Hardy was made a CBE (Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire) by Prince Charles. Hardy is a personal friend of the royal family; he attended this past spring's royal wedding as a guest of Prince Harry, and reportedly shared a stealth cameo with both Harry and William in Star Wars: The Last Jedi that wound up being cut before the film made it to theaters.
 

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Giving Instant Family a nearly $50M budget is such an old Paramount move. Wonder if it was approved before Gianopulos was making all the decisions? There's no reason it couldn't be made for $20M except for Mark Wahlberg's name.
 

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Worldwide outside of China dropped off pretty quickly. Venom only made $10M in the past week not counting China. Thanksgiving weekend will help a bit next week domestically, but domestic is looking like it has $5-7M left. Enough to pass Solo, and maybe edge over AMatW, but we are nearing the endpoint.

Just wait till the Oscar campaign kicks in and it's released back into theaters for awards season
 

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It has been getting progressively worse over the years, as mainstream tastes have diverged from the films that are winning awards. Which is part of the reason that their viewership has been dropping off.
Seems like it is accelerating. That is going to be a big problem for them
 

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Sony's just gonna put Venom into all those "spinoffs" of theirs, I bet.

Also I am not surprised at how low FB 2 is...so many HP fans were like "what the hell is this?". I read some spoilers for it and yikes.
 

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Sony's just gonna put Venom into all those "spinoffs" of theirs, I bet.

Also I am not surprised at how low FB 2 is...so many HP fans were like "what the hell is this?". I read some spoilers for it and yikes.
I would pay to see Tom hardy appearing stingers talking about putting together a team in that mushmouth accent.
 
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Sony's just gonna put Venom into all those "spinoffs" of theirs, I bet.

Also I am not surprised at how low FB 2 is...so many HP fans were like "what the hell is this?". I read some spoilers for it and yikes.

It was probably for the best that the main series films got other people to do the screenwriting. JK Rowling seems to be going down the Star Wars prequels route of "someone should have said no to some of this".
 
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