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Policies of China, Russia and Canada threaten 5 °C climate change, US 4 °C Nature study finds
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The IEA published their WEO 2018, which contains their projections for energy use around the world. It shows that our primary energy mix will not change very much in 2040; slightly higher share of renewables and gas, and lower oil, while coal remains flat (again, in shares, not in absolute numbers).
It shows that nobody expects a material change to curb co2 emissions.
It shows that nobody expects a material change to curb co2 emissions.
At least you won't need to worry about getting stung during summer time. Of course, it will also lead to a complete collapse of our biosphere if insects are gone, likely leading to huge fall in crop production and mass starvation on a global scale.
But at least you don't need to worry about mosquitos. So, yeah, you lose some, you gain some.
Hey, i'm sure Canada will get a pretty good deal out of it. Maybe 8 states, 16 Senators. Not bad for a territory with less people than California.
Thanks to climate change they won't need to fly south for the winter.
This rock we live on will survive, we will not, that's the solace I hold within myself whenever I see shit like this.
I doubt the Rich havent thought of that yet, the poor and disabled first of course
No I was just asking why they aren't mentioned. They're seemingly registering the same numbers on this scale.
Baby Boomers: We'll be dead anyway before shit hits the fan...so fuck you, got mines!!!
Millenniums: Fuck you Baby Boomers...were in this mess because of you! I'll be either dead or really old when the planet starts to crap out on us.
So, is it me or should I not do my family any favors and not bring a child into the world to live with this crap?
Millenniums: Fuck you Baby Boomers...were in this mess because of you! I'll be either dead or really old when the planet starts to crap out on us.
So, is it me or should I not do my family any favors and not bring a child into the world to live with this crap?
I know you're joking, but the UK's strategy before WW2 in the event of a war with the US was to basically just let them have/annex Canada.
This shit is so fucked. We need some massive event to spook people.
People can get behind environmental regulations. It just takes something tangible, like a nuclear power plant almost melting down.
This why, even though it isn't 100% true, tying hurricanes to climate change is a good idea.
People can get behind environmental regulations. It just takes something tangible, like a nuclear power plant almost melting down.
This why, even though it isn't 100% true, tying hurricanes to climate change is a good idea.
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A study in Nature from 3 days ago describes how extreme rainfall in hurricane Maria, Irma, and Katrina was intensified by climate change. It's expected that warming caused by humans will see a rise in rainfall and wind speed of tropical cyclones in the future.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0673-2
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Counting on a climate catastrophe isn't the way to get Trudeau to rule the USA.
Is it talking about current climate policies or future?
I hope the Canadian carbon tax coming in 2019 will mitigate some of the worst excesses.
I hope the Canadian carbon tax coming in 2019 will mitigate some of the worst excesses.
I'm, unfortunately, not actually joking.
Climate change has the potential to cause such a massive realignment of the environment and geopolitical situation of this planet that there will come a point where both the US and Canadian governments decide the only reasonable way forward is integration. Like I said, the US will need Canada's land, and Canada will need the US military to help protect it as the value of that land skyrockets. As Americans initially slowly move to Canada in the early stages of climate change (those who see the writing on the wall and emmigrate, not refuges at this point), support within Canada for such a move will (again slowly) grow as well.
To be clear, I don't view this as the result of a military invasion, rather a peaceful political integration. And I know that will be very difficult for many Canadians (and understandably so), but the introduction of Canada to the US (or under whatever flag this new nation flys) will lead to a Canada-zation of the entire country, what with the huge number of Canadian Senators and House members (or equivalent) and voters being added to the new-United States.
Naw, we're good.
You should give those senators to, like, Puerto Rico, D.C. and the other territories America has or something if you have so many unopened Senators in a Can™ lying around.
Don't forget that the Feds bought that pipeline. It's all our problems now.
Lets not pretend that the specific metric used in this study isn't extremely generous to the US in particular. Some of the most wasteful industries are being ignored. US airline industry is larger then the rest of the top 5 combined and is absent from this study. The shipping industry is not included and freight transportation is the largest job force in the country. etc.
People are reading the article wrong (or not reading it).
The study doesn't say that Canada will personally cause that climate change. It says that if every nation on earth adopted Canada's carbon emission goals, temperatures would go up 5C. Canada itself emits less than it absorbs thanks to our very large forest area and low population. However energy per capita is one of the higher levels on earth, and we aren't doing enough to reduce it.
This is my issue with Climate change policies. The real instigators are in the third world, and they are autocratic unaccountable regimes.
In Canada's case, maybe it's time to reexamine where our actual wealth is from. I think it's going to be very much reduce fossil fuel emissions or reduce the cost of the welfare state. There is no two ways about it.
In Canada's case, maybe it's time to reexamine where our actual wealth is from. I think it's going to be very much reduce fossil fuel emissions or reduce the cost of the welfare state. There is no two ways about it.
Even if your management changes in 2 years, there is no way we Canadians will ever forfeit our sovereignty.
We did it in 1812*.
*Technically Canada didn't exist in 1812 but you know what I mean.
Canada is, in all likelihood, not maintaining its sovereignty in a world transformed by global warming. It is too big with too much newly prime real estate with too few people, sounded by far more powerful neighbors.
Even if your management changes in 2 years, there is no way we Canadians will ever forfeit our sovereignty.
A mutually agreed upon political union with the US is probably the least traumatic way that reality could be realized.
It's just another good reason to do whatever we can to keep that world from coming to pass.
Pretty sure the U.S. has one of, if not, the largest emissions per person which has the means to make a far bigger contribution to the overall reduction of said emissions that are causing global warming but whatever helps you have those sweet imperialist dreams at night.
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I can't decide if you are purposefully misrepresenting my posts or just very confused, so I will err on the side of confused and explain again:
I have not said a single thing about who is to blame for global warming, I have said global warming will completely change the face of this planet, and that will have geopolitical repercussions, one of which will be a flight over the reduced habitat land. Canada would never be able to actually maintain their independence if challenged by the increasingly desperate governments of the United States, Russia, or China. In which case, creating a new Union with the US would be the best of a poor list of options.
The idea I'm excited for this future is, frankly, insulting. I am describing a dystopian world here.
The sheer arrogance to openly suggest a country should just give all our shit to merica cuz you asked nice is fucking laughable. FOH.
The US political set up is cancerous, and while Canada's federalism (which was designed with the US's federal systems problems in mind) is growing outdated we are still far superior to all of you.
We have worked tirelessly to prevent anglophones being americanized but more than that
Quebec and the Atlantic provinces will never become a part of America without war.
Edit: not to mention us just straight limiting how many americans are allowed in our country similar to the Chinese head tax
I disagree with that, but I also think if that's true...then it will just happen via war, with one power or another.
We are talking about a world devastated (or on the cusp of being devastated) globally by climate change. Mass famine, mass destruction by extreme weather, and mass human migration will negatively effect every single nation on this planet. The nations that are in the best position to adapt to this world because of their geographic location, such as Canada and Russia (who could also be an aggressor) will become targets for those who are more directly effected, but still have the military power to "move north," such as the United States and China.
Again, this is all a dystopian nightmare of a future that we are, unfortunately, on a path to. The situation I have described is but one of an incalculable number of fucking awful things climate change can cause.
Me too, but feels good nevertheless to be citizen of a country which is on the right side of this.
I think people need to realise that governments dont really give a shit as they never think long term.
It's time: https://rebellion.earth/
In terms of giving, you can't give up if you haven't done much. It is the opposite, it is time for those who care to start taking the initiative. In terms of societies, there has never been a better cause.
In terms of giving, you can't give up if you haven't done much. It is the opposite, it is time for those who care to start taking the initiative. In terms of societies, there has never been a better cause.