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Teggy

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Oct 25, 2017
14,892
This is devastating. And trump was happy to do nothing because California will never vote for him.
 

Kaitos

Tens across the board!
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
14,707
So, um, Newsom is only behind by 21,000 votes in Orange County. He may win it.
 

Surfinn

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Oct 25, 2017
28,590
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This is devastating. And trump was happy to do nothing because California will never vote for him.

This is really turning out to be a crazy amount of damage.. to property and human life. The death toll and missing persons list will probably continue to rise significantly. This picture drops my stomach.
 

devSin

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Oct 27, 2017
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Given reports that Manafort's cooperation was breaking down, maybe it's not indictments but something else prosecutors & Manafort's lawyers want worked out before the next status report, but it seems like something might be happening soon.
Also keep in mind that Manafort's legal team strategically leaked the whole "not flipping" narrative, while he was in the process of flipping.

Outside of court filings, there are no leaks from the investigation. So everything you read has an agenda behind it.

Yeah I get that, but I hope Durbin et al don't go "the House is too far to the left for "moderate" Rs) will others bills because Turtle will never bring up a bill that will fracture his caucus
Nah, I think it's chatter when they try to get stuff passed. He's just trying to create incentive for them to vote now (knowing that the bill will never come up at all if not before the next session).

I was making a joke about Dick Durbin becoming majority leader. Sorry if I crossed a line.
No worries. It went completely over my head, so I had no choice but to side-eye the apparent implication.
 

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pigeon

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Oct 25, 2017
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It really makes no sense to talk about AOC as a presidential candidate right now.

We should be talking about her as a candidate for chair of the revolutionary vanguard.
 

Surfinn

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Oct 25, 2017
28,590
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Supposedly he's going there this weekend. Can't wait for him to tie up response efforts with his bullshit, make it all about himself, throw wet naps into a crowd and call it a really good job.
If shit wasn't so bad right now I would go protest him. Get the fuck out of our state. You are not welcome. I hope he's shouted back to Mar-A-Lago.

And if he throws anything I hope he gets it thrown right back in his face.
 

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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WikiLeaks with their scoop:


Natasha Bertrand @NatashaBertrand

.@SeamusHughes found this 3 hours ago but ok


WikiLeaks @wikileaks

SCOOP: US Department of Justice "accidentally" reveals existence of sealed charges (or a draft for them) against WikiLeaks' publisher Julian Assange in apparent cut-and-paste error in an unrelated case also at the Eastern District of Virginia. https://pacer-documents.s3.amazonaws.com/179/399086/18919235200.pdf
 

jeelybeans

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Oct 25, 2017
6,948
Would be really nice to see Republican Asian candidates pushed out across the board. They do so much harm to other pocs by not hitching themselves to the Democratic party like the majority of Asian Americans .
 

No Depth

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Oct 27, 2017
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HuffPost just put out a big piece laying out what a piece of shit Tim Miller is.

Fan of the PSA guys, but yeesh, with all the schemes and disingenuous attack propaganda this guy has been involved with long before the recent FB reveal, its amazing the crew were unaware. Long involvement with willful intent to destroying ACORN, Hillary, and now the Soros stuff.

Surprise! Republicans continue to be shit, even the ones pretending to be your friend.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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This is really turning out to be a crazy amount of damage.. to property and human life. The death toll and missing persons list will probably continue to rise significantly. This picture drops my stomach.

Best wishes. I'll be heading up to Chico for Thanksgiving soon. Everyone's wearing masks.
 

Bronx-Man

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Oct 25, 2017
15,351
It is known that Ocasio has been prophecized to be the Chosen One: the elected official destined to unite the American left and bring a new golden age as President when the time is right.
 

hitme

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Oct 26, 2017
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and there it is.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...02e6ba-98bd-48df-b447-3e2a4638f05a_story.html

Julian Assange has been charged, prosecutors reveal in inadvertent court filing

WikiLeaks' founder Julian Assange has been charged under seal, prosecutors inadvertently revealed in a recently unsealed court filing — a development that could significantly advance the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election and have major implications for those who publish government secrets.

The disclosure came in a filing in a case unrelated to Assange. Assistant U.S. Attorney Kellen S. Dwyer, urging a judge to keep the matter sealed, wrote "due to the sophistication of the defendant and the publicity surrounding the case, no other procedure is likely to keep confidential the fact that Assange has been charged." Later, Dwyer wrote the charges would "need to remain sealed until Assange is arrested."

Dwyer is also assigned to the WikiLeaks case. People familiar with the matter said what Dwyer was disclosing was true, but unintentional.

Joshua Stueve, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Eastern District of Virginia said, "The court filing was made in error. That was not the intended name for this filing."

An FBI spokeswoman declined to comment.

Federal prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia have long been investigating Assange, and in the Trump administration had begun taking a second look at whether to charge members of the WikiLeaks organization for the 2010 leak of diplomatic cables and military documents which the anti-secrecy group published. Investigators also had explored whether WikiLeaks could face criminal liability for the more recent revelation of sensitive CIA cyber-tools.

Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III has also exploring the publication by WikiLeaks of emails from the Democratic National Committee and the account of Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John D. Podesta. Officials have alleged the emails were hacked by Russian spies and transferred to WikiLeaks.

Mueller has also been exploring, among other things, communications between the group and associates of President Trump, including political operative Roger Stone and commentator and conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi.

In July, his office charged 12 Russian military spies with conspiring to hack DNC computers, steal the organization's data and publish the files in an effort to disrupt the election and referred in an indictment to WikiLeaks, described only as "Organization 1," as the platform the Russians used to release the stolen emails.

A spokesman for the special counsel's office declined to comment.

It was not immediately clear what charges Assange would face. In the past, prosecutors had contemplated pursuing a case involving conspiracy, theft of government property or violating the Espionage Act. But whether to charge the WikiLeaks founder was hardly a foregone conclusion. In the Obama administration, the Justice Department had concluded that pursuing Assange would be akin to prosecuting a news organization. Former Attorney General Jeff Sessions, though, had taken a more aggressive stance and vowed to crack down on all government leaks.

Barry J. Pollack, one of Assange's attorneys, said, "The only thing more irresponsible than charging a person for publishing truthful information would be to put in a public filing information that clearly was not intended for the public and without any notice to Mr. Assange. Obviously, I have no idea if he has actually been charged or for what, but the notion that the federal criminal charges could be brought based on the publication of truthful information is an incredibly dangerous precedent to set."

The filing in the Eastern District of Virginia came on August 22, in a case that combines national security and sex trafficking. Seitu Sulayman Kokayi, 29, was charged with enticing a 15-year-old girl to have sex with him and send him pornographic images of herself. But he was detained in part, according to the court filing, because he "has a substantial interest in terrorist acts."

His father-in-law, according to the filing, has been convicted of terrorist acts. The case involves previously classified information, according to government filings, and prosecutors plan to use information obtained under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Kokayi was indicted last week and is set to be arraigned Friday morning.

The case had been sealed until early September, though by itself it attracted little notice. On Thursday evening, Seamus Hughes, the deputy director of the Program on Extremism at George Washington University who is known for scrubbing court filings, joked about the apparent error on Twitter — which first brought it to the attention of reporters.

Even if he is charged, Assange's coming to the United States to face trial is no sure thing. Since June 2012, Assange has been living in the Ecuadorian embassy, afraid that if he steps outside he will be arrested.

When he first sought asylum in the embassy, he was facing possible extradition to Sweden in a sex crimes case. He has argued that case was a pretext for what he predicted would be his arrest and extradition to the United States.

In the years since, the Swedish case has been closed, but Assange has said he cannot risk leaving the embassy because the U.S. would attempt to have him arrested and extradited for disclosures of U.S. government secrets. Throughout that time, the U.S. has refused to say whether there are any sealed charges against Assange.

If Assange were to leave the embassy and be arrested by British authorities, he would likely still fight extradition in the British courts.
 

skullmuffins

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Oct 25, 2017
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The disclosure came in a filing in a case unrelated to Assange. Assistant U.S. Attorney Kellen S. Dwyer, urging a judge to keep the matter sealed, wrote "due to the sophistication of the defendant and the publicity surrounding the case, no other procedure is likely to keep confidential the fact that Assange has been charged." Later, Dwyer wrote the charges would "need to remain sealed until Assange is arrested."

Dwyer is also assigned to the WikiLeaks case. People familiar with the matter said what Dwyer was disclosing was true, but unintentional.
there it is
 

sphagnum

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Oct 25, 2017
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It kind of sucks that nobody pays any attention to Rashida Tlaib despite her also being a newly elected demsoc woman, but she'll basically never have a shot at being president since she's Muslim.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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South Carolina


"I hope McDaniel wins cuz a KKK can cause another Moore situation!"

*throws $20 to Espy*

Well at least it takes the attention away from Beto and Harris at least for a bit.

That's the thing though; there's no One Scary Boogiewoman Of Socialist Death For Reals You Guys, it's HORDES of them. And boogiemen. From all over. In a spectrum from Centrist to Prog as hell. There's no one target nor is it any good to focus on one; it's like that one video where the guy dumps a laundry basket of tennis balls at his dog. Hell, it's why I hope Warren hangs around, they'll never be able to resist the one they know to look for then BAM, whoever comes out the winner by Super Tuesday is in the clear. And THAT doesn't count the 470-ish congressional races, etc.

Maddow basically laying out that this is the beginning of the end for Trump - we've just about reached the point of a Saturday night massacre, when the Pres tries to influence an investigation of him. Noted (as others did before) that there are long secret negotiations happening in court between a mystery person and the Mueller investigation. Appeals court in DC handling, the only judge that recused himself was interviewed by the senate in 2017 and admitted the pres had consulted with him on matters related to the mueller investigation.

Yeah, it's not IF, and may never have been, it's about what WE do if he does. Sealed indictments on the DoJ/OSC's side, but we ourselves have to make sure that stove is WHITE HOT long before his hand reaches for the tiny hotdogs cooking on it.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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It is known that Ocasio has been prophecized to be the Chosen One: the elected official destined to unite the American left and bring a new golden age as President when the time is right.
There's gonna be a bill Pelosi is gonna have to pass which will good stuff like infrastructure but also some stuff AoC base is going to detest like defense spending, and AoC is gonna vote yea. Then the sheen starts to come off :(

They remind me of a young and innocent me 10 years ago at this point in time when Obama won.
 
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