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Disgraced deputy who hid during Parkland shooting, a no-show at investigation hearing.

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https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/...oneman-douglas-commission-20181114-story.html

Scot Peterson, the disgraced Broward sheriff's deputy who hid in a stairwell during the Parkland school shooting, refused to appear Thursday before the state commission investigating the massacre.

Peterson's lawyer, Joseph DiRuzzo, stepped up to the lectern in the commission's meeting room in Sunrise and made a brief statement.

"As you can tell, Mr. Peterson is not here," he said. "Mr. Peterson will not be testifying today. Earlier this morning, I filed a complaint with the court, seeking to quash this subpoena."

...Bob Gualtieri, the Pinellas County sheriff who serves as chairman of the commission, said Peterson's refusal to appear came as a surprise, since his lawyer had said he would comply with the subpoena.

"Just so everybody knows, the attorney who just appeared was contacted on Nov. 8 and he accepted service on behalf of Mr. Peterson, and he told us that Mr. Peterson would appear," he said. "So we were operating under the premise, based on the representation of the lawyer who showed up and left that Mr. Peterson would be here."

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Netherscourge said:
I want to hate on this guy, but I feel sympathy for some reason.
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If I was expected to take down a possible underage armed serial murderer in the presence of possibly many hostages and the possibility of harming innocent people and mainly kids at that, with probably no sufficient training for handling such a situation, I'd hide my ass too.

Dude's perhaps been trained, but I doubt been trained to take down or pacify someone with a machine gun
 
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He is a coward. I can understand feeling fear in the heat of the moment, as a human being, but law enforcement officers are trained to face danger and overcome that fear for the sake of protecting the community. If you can't do that job, then quit.
 
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I honestly feel sorry for him, school security shouldn't be dealing with military grade weapons. If only there was some form of gun control so these shootings would stop happening so frequently.
 
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JCG said:
He is a coward. I can understand feeling fear in the heat of the moment, as a human being, but law enforcement officers are trained to face danger and overcome that fear for the sake of protecting the community. If you can't do that job, then quit.
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Police in US are trained well?
 
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Yeah the guy is a coward and shouldn't have had the job if he's not prepared to do it, but it's funny to hear all the people act like they would have jumped in there guns blazing to take the shooter down. Not specifically here but people in general.


Shit is really easy to say behind a keyboard, not so much in the line of fire.
 
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Funyarinpa said:
If I was expected to take down a possible underage armed serial murderer in the presence of possibly many hostages and the possibility of harming innocent people and mainly kids at that, with probably no sufficient training for handling such a situation, I'd hide my ass too.

Dude's perhaps been trained, but I doubt been trained to take down or pacify someone with a machine gun
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No one had a machine gun, and yes he was specifically trained for that exact scenario he found himself in. In fact he was so well trained that it was his job to train others.
 
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Funyarinpa said:
If I was expected to take down a possible underage armed serial murderer in the presence of possibly many hostages and the possibility of harming innocent people and mainly kids at that, with probably no sufficient training for handling such a situation, I'd hide my ass too.

Dude's perhaps been trained, but I doubt been trained to take down or pacify someone with a machine gun
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You have to BE someone who is willing to take on a crazy person shooting off an AR-15 with nothing but a handgun at your disposal.

School security officers aren't trained for that shit. I dare say nobody is trained for that shit. Nobody knows how anyone will react in that situation until it's happening.

That's why I think it's disengenuous to hate him or call him a coward.
 
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Would be real neat if we didn't need to stop rampaging shooters at schools in the first place
 

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Have people forgotten that this dude literally told other cops to wait before going inside? Two responding officers were first to the scene, and Peterson told them to stay 500 feet away from the building, in violation of his own training. You guys are feeling sympathy for a real piece of shit.
 
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Netherscourge said:
I want to hate on this guy, but I feel sympathy for some reason.
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It's because even though he failed to do his job and is a coward, the job he's being asked to do is incredibly dangerous, practically suicidal, and is all at the altar of the nonsensical "good guy with a gun" fantasy.

Of course, he never should have taken up the job in the first place, but the job shouldn't even really be necessary.
 

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Have people forgotten that this dude literally told other cops to wait before going inside? Two responding officers were first to the scene, and Peterson told them to stay 500 feet away from the building, in violation of his own training. You guys are feeling sympathy for a real piece of shit.
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Oh wow why the fuck
 
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As I said, it's hard for me to get too angry about this guy, when the real shitheads that allow school shooting to keep happening (the NRA and politicians in their Pocket) will see no punishment for this.

Not that he didn't fuck up, but I'm worried that he'll be used as a scapegoat so America doesn't have to think about the underlying cause of these shootings.
 
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danm999 said:
It's because even though he failed to do his job and is a coward, the job he's being asked to do is incredibly dangerous, practically suicidal, and is all at the altar of the nonsensical "good guy with a gun" fantasy.

Of course, he never should have taken up the job in the first place, but the job shouldn't even really be necessary.
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I doubt anyone takes that job expecting to have to face a maniac with an AR-15.

They probably figure the worst they gotta do is break up fights and detain kids caught with drugs.
 
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danm999 said:
It's because even though he failed to do his job and is a coward, the job he's being asked to do is incredibly dangerous, practically suicidal, and is all at the altar of the nonsensical "good guy with a gun" fantasy.

Of course, he never should have taken up the job in the first place, but the job shouldn't even really be necessary.
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He wasn't asked to this. He took money from the community to do a job he refused to do.
 

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I'm surprised he hasn't killed himself, honestly.

Not everyone is built to go into a room where you know people are being murdered, training or not. This is usually mitigated or discovered through extensive, realistic training that most police officers simply don't go through.

We don't hold them to a high enough standard and that's where most of the problems we see in the police force come from.
 

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As I said, it's hard for me to get too angry about this guy, when the real shitheads that allow school shooting to keep happening (the NRA and politicians in their Pocket) will see no punishment for this.
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This police officer spent years and years spreading around the concept that "the only thing that can stop a bad guy is a good guy with a gun." He sold seminars teaching it. Pushing this agenda was literally his side job, and he got awards and medals for teaching these classes on how to respond to school shootings.

Then, when it finally happened to him, he froze up, and gave other officers who were trying to respond, bad intelligence. He really, really sucks.

EDIT: ALSO, remember, he lied at first, and said he DID go in, until video evidence came out proving he didn't.
 
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Steelrain said:
I'm surprised he hasn't killed himself, honestly.

Not everyone is built to go into a room where you know people are being murdered, training or not. This is usually mitigated or discovered through extensive, realistic training that most police officers simply don't go through.

We don't hold them to a high enough standard and that's where most of the problems we see in the police force come from.
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Yep especially the bolded bit. So many issues stem from that.
 
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The entire right wing argument for gun availability is constantly flushed down the toilet while kid's corpses pile up. Fucking terrorist cowards.
 

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I doubt anyone takes that job expecting to have to face a maniac with an AR-15.

They probably figure the worst they gotta do is break up fights and detain kids caught with drugs.
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He literally taught seminars on how to disable gunmen at schools. The school he worked at wanted to disband the program putting cops on the campus in 2015 for budget reasons, and he rallied the town to his support (i.e. forced them to keep employing him) arguing that the only way to stop school shootings was to have armed police men on campus to shoot and stop them when the attacks started. He won an award just a couple of months before the shooting for that very seminar.
 
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people wanting to lay all blame on this guy are misdirecting their blame.

Blame the Governor, blame the Senators, blame the State legislators, blame the NRA, blame the President, blame the 2nd Amendment, blame the gun makers.

The US has a gun sickness.

But eh, everyone wants to blame this failed cop fall the rain of bullets from a crazy murderer
 

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ALSO: This guy isn't a security guard

this guy is literally a fully trained police officer, who prior to being placed at the school, worked for like 20 years on a normal beat.
 
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