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Newswire George R.R. Martin admits he's "struggling" with The Winds of Winter
- Thread starter RoninChaos
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A) No one knows about the White Walkers at this point save Jon Snow
B) When the shit is over there will still be a Kingdom to rule, what's the point of saving the Kingdom if you're just going to cause it all to fall apart in a few years because you don't know anything about ruling.
C) The experience and allies she gains through Mereen will likely help in the War to Come.
I saw a debate about whether he owes his fans anything. My answer is an hard--YES! Don't start a series if you can't finish it. If he's having trouble he should bring in a team of writers to help them. Just go with the TV show/writing room approach and be done with it. At the rate he's going it won't be finished. I wouldn't be surprised if he just says, "The HBO ending is the real ending. Move on."
Remember that Neil Gaiman's bullshit defense of GRRM's procrastination was written almost a decade ago...
It's the opposite. He's written too much not too little. In a different comment, he mentions that his editors are trying to push him to split the novel into 2.
I lol every time when people think that he has notes. He has no notes. He has no concrete plan. Everything regarding the story is in his head and per his Gardening approach to writing its all subject to constant change, revision, and course correction. What he envisions as the ending to the series now is probably unrecognizable to what it was in 2000 when he completed the First Act with Storm of Swords.
If he dies he won't have to burn any notes because they don't exist.
If he dies he won't have to burn any notes because they don't exist.
Not to this extend where he tells the reader "sorry bro you not gonna read about your fav in this book".
In the sense that some of those last chapters for certain POVS are going to end up in the 7th book, he is.
The first half of the second book was written to be in book 1.
Tyrion's story to the end of the third book was already done by the time he finished book 2.
Chapters that were supposed to be in the end of AFFC and ADWD are going to make up the beginning of TWOW.
So you can expect the beginning of ADOS to be written by the time he finishes TWOW if he manages it.
Martin himself is hopefully in small company with regards to that outlook.
I hope he does this and renames part 2 "A Dream of Spring", making everyone collectively shit their pants.
Only to announce that there will be more books to follow.
I can't even imagine how difficult it is to write a long series, especially one as involved. I get struggling.
This makes me glad I never got into the series though. Read the first book, but didn't love it, and found the first 100 pages of the second one boring the two times I tried. It's just an overload and there's too much going on.
This makes me glad I never got into the series though. Read the first book, but didn't love it, and found the first 100 pages of the second one boring the two times I tried. It's just an overload and there's too much going on.
Damn i thought i procrastinated, this guy is already talking about putting off working on the next book while he puts off writing the current book.
The 4th book as it was planned after the time skip was scrapped has not even been finished yet
Since the climax of a dance with dragons was moved to winds of winter
I think I read the same sentiment more than once on the asoiaf subreddit I was under the impression that Preson Jacobs's channel was meant to be a parody for the nuttiest asoiaf tinfoil theories one can find on reddit or rumblr.
It'll come out. Even if he dies his editors will release whatever he has done in a cogent enough connection of pieces to fill out a full title.
At this point I have no faith it won't suck though. When you've effectively been rewriting a book for ten years you've clearly lost your voice for the characters.
At this point I have no faith it won't suck though. When you've effectively been rewriting a book for ten years you've clearly lost your voice for the characters.
And we already know how their story ends. They both die horribly.
It's not. Some of his stuff is bat-shit insane but other stuff is really good. His analysis on GRRM's recurrent themes and areas of fascination using his short stories are spot on. You can get the idea of what kind of ending GRRM wants for his story once you read his other short stories. I recommend Song of Lya.
Yeah, it's pretty clear that he's written a massive amount of material, but the issue is just getting everything to fit together into a single book.
I mean he's saying he's resisting that notion because he's really intent on the series being 7. My hope is if there is an 8th book that it's only 500-700 pages long.
It will only truly be hurtful when he dies. I've had my 3 favourite authors die in my lifetime, Douglas Adams, Iain M Banks and Terry Pratchett, and the knowledge you'll never get another novel from them is quite something. You look at your bookshelf and it will never get bigger with another by one of your favourites :(
I think I've read everything Gurm wrote except for his contributions to Wild Cards. I still think Preston Jacobs is not exactly the best point of reference when it comes to analyzing literature.
He's not my point of reference. He was my gateway to GRRM's short stories though.
I've read a lot of GRRM's short stories as well. And I agree with Preston that Song for Lya is a foundation stone for A Song of Ice and Fire.
Well, writers (and other media creators) really should reign in grand ambitions of sprawling epics. Write every book as though it might be the last in the series, even if you have ideas for where it could go next.
He has created too many smaller characters, multiplying the storylines to the point where it`s practically impossible to finish. So instead of doubling down and working on the books, he has looked at other books/projects because he doesn't know how to finish. You don't fix issues by just adding more characters to a story.
There are more than enough samples available to conclude that his voice for each character is as keen as ever.
Read "The Forsaken" TWoW excerpt and tell me the book is going to suck. It's going to be the best ASOIAF entry yet.
I think it was last year, perhaps the year before, that I came to terms with it: it's never coming out. I think deep down GRRM knows it too, and he's being a bit cynical about the whole affair.
All he does is work on other things while repeatedly claiming he's going to focus on Winds. He's been doing it for years. Remember when The Force Awakens trailer set the internet aflame and he said it rejuvenated him and inspired him to finish Winds? Yea. Next week or the week after he'll excitedly announce that he's editing another Wild Cards (for its dozens of fans) or working hard producing prequel possibility #9 on HBO or deep into the latest Dunk and Egg story (not that I would mind that, I think the collection A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is his most entertaining work).
All he does is work on other things while repeatedly claiming he's going to focus on Winds. He's been doing it for years. Remember when The Force Awakens trailer set the internet aflame and he said it rejuvenated him and inspired him to finish Winds? Yea. Next week or the week after he'll excitedly announce that he's editing another Wild Cards (for its dozens of fans) or working hard producing prequel possibility #9 on HBO or deep into the latest Dunk and Egg story (not that I would mind that, I think the collection A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms is his most entertaining work).
This is an exceedingly ambitious series. GRRM is playing with almost every fantasy trope imaginable.
You have the Evil Queen from Snow White, the Hunchback of Notre Dame, Lancelot, Wart/Kid King Arthur, Aragorn, Elric of Melnibone, Merlin, the Fae, the Melniboneans, Gandalf, Morgan Le Faye, MacBeth, Richard III , Pinnochio, Frodo, Saruman, Macbeth, Cinderella, the Hobbits etc. all being played around with in this series.
And he's literally trying to smash every trope he can and build into something new.
Yeah, that's bullshit. GRRM plays straight just as many cliches as he subverts.
Rian Johnson he is not (for better or for worse).
And no character makes this clearer than fAegon. Pulling such a major player out of his ass this late in the game just seems like a gross mistake. By Book 5 the story should've reached some sort of apex, but instead we still have no idea where is it going.
I didn't know this was coming out next week.
I thought World of Ice and Fire was a really dull-fucking-read so I'm not sure how interested I am in something like this.